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[masonator]

Am I the only one that finds this game unbelievable difficult? :mad:

Edited November 26, 2008 by masonator

[SuperKungFu]

You could play at a lower setting if you so wish. But most people want the full realism. Personally i enjoy it being difficult, gives you a challenge.

[masonator]

You could play at a lower setting if you so wish. But most people want the full realism. Personally i enjoy it being difficult, gives you a challenge.

 

I do too, but this is really hard. I *want* to be good at it, but I'm not sure if I will be able to or not. I've spent all evening just trying to take off and land, and I'm nowhere near good enough at either (especially landing).

 

Mase

[GGTharos]

It takes practice. First of all, do not take off or land in automatic modes. Engage the flight director before taking off - that will be your best best.

 

Second, READ THE MANUAL. ;)

[tusler]

Am I the only one that finds this game unbelievable difficult? :mad:

 

Part of the problem is not being able to understand warnings and go through the proper training tutorials, just have fun until the english version comes out and then we will have a fighting chance at mastering this machine.:pilotfly:

[Cosmo81]

Am I the only one that finds this game unbelievable difficult? :mad:

 

I learned a lot just by watching the producers notes videos and reading from the manual, start by watching the videos first, and then go over the key commands, also read up on the manual. Also if landings and takeoffs are bothering you, skip them and then come back to it later, i didnt know how to land either at first but came back to it, again watch the videos, it helps a ton.

[hitman]

I just jumped in and started playing with stuff. I crashed a lot but hey...gotta cut your teeth somehow. I dont believe in reading manuals, but if it cant be helped, I read the manual first THEN ask questions later.

[leonsilver]

Am I the only one that finds this game unbelievable difficult? :mad:

 

No.This a very good and realistic game!I love it.! :thumbup:

[Slayer]

Am I the only one that finds this game unbelievable difficult? :mad:

 

We are all going through the learning curve bro....enjoy it. Get online hook up with some people on ventrilo or teamspeak and learn together. If the whole game was as easy as arcade mode the whole time youd be bored of it in a month and put it on the shelf. The thing is when you start to get good at it you really feel like you accomplished something( at least I do) and thats half the fun of the game. :pilotfly:

[CAT_101st]

I love the flight model. and the full realism. As soon as I can get the in game video play back to work I will make a little video.

[Groove]

Masonator, that's good news! It will be more rewarding when you master it.

 

Can you describe your problems more in detail or give us a track? We will help you, no worries :)

[Maverick-GER-]

Am I the only one that finds this game unbelievable difficult? :mad:

 

Well masonator if you want to i can help you out a bit and teach you a thing or two.

That's actually the most fun in DCS for me now to learn flying the shark and using its systems right, together with other people .

So whenever you want to fly a round, just drop me a PM and maybe we can arrange some practice flights :)

[Amraam]

It takes practice. First of all, do not take off or land in automatic modes. Engage the flight director before taking off - that will be your best best.

 

Second, READ THE MANUAL. ;)

 

Why not out of curiosity? I use them, bring the heli to a hover and creep forward until I'm over the landing pad, disengage altitude hold, then use the collective to slowly descend.

 

Is the flight director the little blue button thats next to the 4 AP mode buttons?

 

What does it do?

[Maverick-GER-]

yes it is.

And what it does ... here a little quote out of the manual:

Flight Director Control When in flight director mode, the task of the pilot is to maintain the angular position of the helicopter with the cyclic and the altitude with the collective by using the directors indicated on the HUD and ADI. This mode is most often used instead of automatic enroute flight. To disengage the automatic mode and enable director control, it is necessary to press the “ДИР УПР” (FLT DIR) push-light on the Autopilot panel. By disengaging automatic control, the automatic angular stabilization is disabled but damping remains for all channels.

[Amraam]

Cool thanks, I'll check it out when I get home! :)

[nemises]

its basically manual autopilot 8) .. the route mode autopilot cues appear in the HUD, and the auto pilot assitants disengage (though the stabalisation functions remain on)...you then manually follow the HUD cue's to correctly fly the chopper as though it were in route mode with all pilot assistants on.

 

Probably a good way to learn how to correctly manipulate the shark in a turn for eg actually .. I might also give it a go tonight.

[masonator]

Ok, so I've been practicing a lot, and I'm getting better. I can now navigate between a 4-point waypoint route around the airfield, and I'm getting better at transitioning to a stop/landing. I can put her down on tarmac now...I'm not super precise with location, but I think rubber side down on the black stuff is a good start.

 

I've also started some fun stuff...like coming to a hover behind a hill/building, engaging autohover, and then popping up in a mock pop-up engagement. It's hella fun.

 

I think my early frustration was that I didn't understand how to use the trim system, and the manual doesn't really do a great job of explaining it in lay-person speak. Now that I've got the hang of it (thank you cntrl-enter!!!), flight is getting a lot smoother.

 

Thanks for the advice all.

 

-M

[GGTharos]

Excellent, there you go :)

 

Please also read the FAQ's as well, they explains some additional things in depth.

[masonator]

Excellent, there you go :)

 

Please also read the FAQ's as well, they explains some additional things in depth.

 

Yup, have been reading them all. I've decided that the absolute key to everything is:

a) understanding the blue buttons, and

b) trimming

c) more trimming

[GGTharos]

I believe that would have you doing the 'flight' part rather well soon :)

 

Also keep in mind the influences a change in collective causes for example (ie. yaw here or there, nose dip, etc) ... try not to overspeed the rotors, the engine, or fly too fast. The helicopter issues warnings to help you survive: Heed them :D

[multiviper]

all i know is i have cost Russia at least 1 trillion dollars in helicopters over the past 3 weeks.

 

at this point i feel lucky if i am airborne for 30 minutes... but those 30 minutes are fun as heck...

[rapid]

Am I the only one that finds this game unbelievable difficult? :mad:

 

you hit the nail on the head...its a Flight Sim not a game:joystick:.

Dont loose heart there buddy this Sim will have longevity you'll still be playing this well after you put down other "games".

 

keep the faith.:smilewink:

[therion_prime]

I actually dont find it that difficult, but I've been flying the FSX choppers (the Bell mainly) as a training for BS before it was released. That DID actually help a LOT.

 

The second biggest help with flying the BS is a homebuilt long centerstick I made out of an old Cougar with hall-sensors from a defunct X52.

It has no self centering but is dampened using RC-car hydraulic dampeners, so there's almost no need for trimming.

I can tell you that flying with this stick is SO much easier than with my X52Pro.

[Groove]

Glad to see you doing progress masonator :)

 

I have to admit that i barely use the trimmer button :D

[masonator]

I have to admit that i barely use the trimmer button :D

 

showoff ;)