Tipping over on landing. Looking for tips.

[Roosterfeet]

I have a strong tendency to tip over on one side when landing, especially when landing on unpaved surfaces. Aside from avoiding lateral movement, what are the best ways to avoid this and what should you do if the aircraft starts leaning when you touch down? Opposite cyclic tends to either have too little effect or causes overcorrection.

[ddc196]

Practice. No but really that's the answer. Gentil on the controls and when you touch down continue reducing that collective. If you don't you'll be light on your wheels and little cyclic movements could cause issues for you.

[Hiob]

Make sure that the ground you land on is even. When you need to land on uneven terrain, land uphill. Account for wind. When you land from a hover, stabilize the hover first and then ease it down. As soon as you register touchdown, lower collective. Lowering the collective makes overreaction less dangerous as a positive side effect.

But most important: Do everything slowly, slow down early…and practice!

[exil]

49 minutes ago, Roosterfeet said:

I have a strong tendency to tip over on one side when landing, especially when landing on unpaved surfaces. Aside from avoiding lateral movement, what are the best ways to avoid this and what should you do if the aircraft starts leaning when you touch down? Opposite cyclic tends to either have too little effect or causes overcorrection.

Are you sure you have released the parking brake? I know, dumb question but I noticed a tendency when not releasing it. 

[NineLine]

Make sure to check out Wags landing video as well, if you havent already 

 

[Supmua]

5 hours ago, Roosterfeet said:

I have a strong tendency to tip over on one side when landing, especially when landing on unpaved surfaces. Aside from avoiding lateral movement, what are the best ways to avoid this and what should you do if the aircraft starts leaning when you touch down? Opposite cyclic tends to either have too little effect or causes overcorrection.

If it starts to tip I typically would try to go back into hovering and raise the altitude a bit to avoid crashing.  Also when you're under IGE, around 10 ft I find that you will experience a lift which may cause the aircraft to float upward again even with no change in collective input, this requires further drop in the collective torque to force the descent (gentle touch).  If you're steady and level at 5 ft you can just plop down.  I don't trim unless I'm absolutely level and steady else it would typically mess up my landing, I know there're people who trim all the way down though.

 

If you drift to the right of the landing zone, you can drift left by allowing yaw to the right then push cyclic left, this will allow you to crab left.  Then correct the yaw (left pedal) followed by the cyclic right afterward to go back to the steady state.

Edited March 28, 2022 by Supmua

[al531246]

Set your Y Saturation to 80 on the Pitch and Roll cyclic axis.

[CaptHawk]

Yep, takes lots of practice and a light touch. I'm past rolling over on landings but still, the Apache sure can take hard landings