correct as is Seatin position CPG not in the center of the seat

[Bottebeitel]

When i get into the CPG seat I am seated left of the seat center. Happens in both MP and SP. The Pilot seat position is perfectly aligned. Anyone else with this problem? I only play in VR....

[ThatSillyGinge]

Sounds unusual, but you should be able to reposition your viewpoint with Right Shift + Right Control + Numpad 5 by default. 

You should also be able to reposition yourself as you desire using the following:

Right Shift + Right Control + and...

• Numpad 4+6: Left & Right
• Numpad 8+2: Up & Down
• Numpad * + /: Forwards & Aft

If you play in VR, you may also need to recenter your view using Numpad 5 on its own.

Edited March 28, 2022 by ThatSillyGinge

[BIGNEWY]

check your saved games dcs config view folder, do you have any left over snap views creating a problem?

[Bailey]

I noticed this yesterday. I think it's a case of the cockpit not being symmetrical at the pilots. A pic would be nice to compare. 

[sirrah]

3 hours ago, Bottebeitel said:

When i get into the CPG seat I am seated left of the seat center. Happens in both MP and SP. The Pilot seat position is perfectly aligned. Anyone else with this problem? I only play in VR....

Just wanted to chime in and let you know that you're not the only one having this issue.

I kinda assumed it was a known issue and WIP, as it's such an obvious problem. But reactions here do seem to indicate otherwise 

 

I'll try to throw in some screenshots here as soon as I get the chance (Although screenshots taken in VR are absolute rubbish for proper bug reporting...)

 

 

Fwiw: I never altered any default seating position values. My pilot seat view is spot on. When I switch to CP/G, my view is too far forward and to the left

[dmatt76]

I have that too -it is easy to check when you boresight the HDU. Without TrackIR or VR you need to move the camera sideways to center align with boresight.
On the other hand, the CPG boresight is a bit to the right, so maybe that's how it should be.

Edited March 29, 2022 by dmatt76

[Japo32]

In my case is too close in VR. The aligment of the ihadss is wrong, and that is because I think it is too closed to the TV screen. No problem with the pilot.

[Bottebeitel]

Thanks @BIGNEWY and others for your answers. I just went off to work after posting and did not realise that it would be within an hour to receive replies. I wil try to make screenshot of the CPG position. 

[Bailey]

For reference, here is my game default after pressing Num5, NumEnter, and then tapping Num2 twice. I hope that creates a "baseline" on which to compare. Specifically the location and profile of the stick in relation to the head/eyes.

[Bottebeitel]

On 3/28/2022 at 4:48 PM, BIGNEWY said:

check your saved games dcs config view folder, do you have any left over snap views creating a problem?

nothing left in the config file

[jonfog]

Well I find that the Boresighting is off when doing a Cold Start. When Aligning I have to crouch  as the CP/G, and then the sight is off if I'm aiming the gun with HMD as a sight. If you do a Hot Start where the Boresighting is already done, the gun works okay.

For the pilot it's no problem.

And yes I'm a VR only guy.

[Bottebeitel]

On 3/28/2022 at 4:48 PM, BIGNEWY said:

check your saved games dcs config view folder, do you have any left over snap views creating a problem?

I think it is hard to see because it's a screen shot taken from the VR environment. But I am positioned left of the seats' centerline. Despite using the VR centering option. In the pilots' seat it's all okay.   

[BIGNEWY]

2 minutes ago, Bottebeitel said:

I think it is hard to see because it's a screen shot taken from the VR environment. But I am positioned left of the seats' centerline. Despite using the VR centering option. In the pilots' seat it's all okay.   

can you tell me what headset you are using. Mine is working correctly in the G2, also do you have multiscreen setup?

[BIGNEWY]

If you do have multiscreen, can I ask you to select 1 screen in DCS and then test in VR to see if it has any affect? 

thank you

[sirrah]

As said before, it's really difficult to provide decent screenshots/proof from VR perspective

 

But in an attempt to support @Bottebeitel's bug report, I also made 2 screenshots comparing the default PLT seat position with the CPG position.

You can especially see that the default CPG position is too far left, when you look down (when looking forward it's difficult to see). When looking forward though, I think the player "eyes" position is too close to the TADS display (it feels like just 3cm between your eyes and the TADS display, but I never sat in the real thing, so maybe that's correct).

Anyways, as for the CPG default view being a bit to far to the left:

 

This screenshot was taken from the PLT seat after VR-recenter while looking down and forward. As you can see the HMD reticle is just right of the ciclic. This position feels spot on in the center

The next screenshot is taken from the CPG seat, after VR-recenter and while looking down and forward:

As you can see, the HMD reticle is positioned left of the cyclic. Also, but that's a bit difficult to see in my screenshots, if you look down while in the CPG seat, the entire seat seems not to be centered to the players position (again, the player sitting to far to the left)

 

I hope this helps..

 

 

Using HP Reverb G1 and single monitor (rest of my pc specs in my sig)

[BIGNEWY]

Attached 2 shots from front seat. 

This is my position in the G2 and is the intended position. screenshot done with right eye mirror 

[sirrah]

3 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Attached 2 shots from front seat. 

This is my position in the G2 and is the intended position. screenshot done with right eye mirror 

So when you look down at your seat (while in CPG), you don't get the feeling like you're sitting on the left most edge of your seat?
Yes, the TADS display seems centered, but observing the seat cushion in your lower screenshot, it really looks like you're not sitting in the center of your seat)

[BIGNEWY]

feels normal for me. 

are you using any IPD settings in game? 

 

[sirrah]

2 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

feels normal for me. 

are you using any IPD settings in game? 

 

IPD?

I've PD set to 1.0 if that's what you mean

[BIGNEWY]

Sorry I mean the force IPD in the VR tab ( world scale )

[sirrah]

24 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Sorry I mean the force IPD in the VR tab ( world scale )

Yes, I have pixel density (PD) in the VR option tab set to 1.0

 

But again, my position in the PLT seat is perfectly centered on the seat (just like all other modules I own), only when occupying the CPG seat, it feels/looks like I'm sitting to far left on the seat

(and yes I tried VR-recenter )

Edited March 30, 2022 by sirrah

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, sirrah said:

I have PD in the VR option tab set to 1.0

its a tick and untick option which can be adjusted when in the cockpit. 

not the PD slider 

Just checking we are on the same page

[sirrah]

Just now, BIGNEWY said:

its a tick and untick option which can be adjusted when in the cockpit. 

not the PD slider 

Just checking we are on the same page

Ah oh you're right! We were not on the same page 

 

Not at my pc anymore so I can't check right now (social life got me again), but iirc, I have it set to 67

(Although if that setting would matter, I assume it would also have effect on my PLT seat position)

[BIGNEWY]

9 minutes ago, sirrah said:

Ah oh you're right! We were not on the same page 

 

Not at my pc anymore so I can't check right now (social life got me again), but iirc, I have it set to 67

(Although if that setting would matter, I assume it would also have effect on my PLT seat position)

thanks and yes, I am just thinking outside the box on this one.

[sirrah]

7 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

thanks and yes, I am just thinking outside the box on this one.

Well, I guess if nobody else is going to report or confirm this, it's just@Bottebeitel's and my perception 

 

It's not the end of the (DCS ) World anyway, as it's easy to adjust my VR position