Pilotasso Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Also the main manuevering surface in a missile is the body. Steering surfaces are not "wings". .
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 However, new AMRAAM's are less maneuverable because of the clipped wings. Reminder: SAM = Stealth STOP! Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Pilotasso Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 It was never a factor for all the kills it already got nor the misses either. ;) .
GGTharos Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 You're hit by a 30mm or a 40mm round. Which one's going to kill you harder? Will you be able to tell the difference? ;) However, new AMRAAM's are less maneuverable because of the clipped wings. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 It was never a factor for all the kills it already got nor the misses either. ;) That is completely different subject all together. But, new AMRAAM's for the F-35 and F-22 are less maneuverable then the old ones, right? Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
GGTharos Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Some claim they're more maneuverable. Hard to tell, no? The surface area that was removed can be put back by lenghtening the fin instead, and you'll get back the same amount of force if you want to (ie. same amount of g's). On the other hand, you might not lose so much that you'll want to put it back there, and you thus cut down on drag and gain a bit of a range in a straight shot. The AMRAAM has had clipped fins since the C version, which has been around for more than a decade, IIRC. It currently has the highest Pk of any radar guided AAM out there - not just highest, but twice that of any other radar guided AAM. I don't think it's suffering from maneuverability problems, nor does it look like Raytheon thinks it can increase the Pk by 'increasing maneuverability'. Other things have been done to make the missile deadlier instead, such as equipping it with helmet cueing, higher OBA capability, tighter notch, better autopilot and radar filters etc. To put it in other words, you picked the least interesting feature of this missile to get stuck on. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 To put it in other words, you picked the least interesting feature of this missile to get stuck on.You are right GG. As long as there is several times as many F-15's, F-16, F-18's and AWACS then what your opponent have for MiG29A's (without GCI or AWACS) then it really doesn't matter how maneuverable the missile is. You will simply launch your missile from the best possible condition, and when it hits (what a surprise) claim how good the missile is. Oh yeah .. I am out ... Reminder: SAM=Stealth STOP! Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Maximus_G Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/f-35-cockpit/ http://driven-technologies.com/prod_pages/prod2.html Its throttle looks quite untraditional, the form is complicated. Wonder, what's besides this solution.
GGTharos Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 It's too bad there aren't more angles to view it from ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Maximus_G Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Does anybody want to contact Driven Technologies and ask them to provide us more images of their product? :)
topol-m Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 I wonder if this 1 MFCD design is the best. When you lose it for some reason you will be like blind. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tflash Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 I have this idea that us computergeeks will feel more at home in it than real pilots ... but then again we will be flying UAV's of course. :D But your right: what if this screen just turns black in flight? Knowing how "reliable" my computers have been the last 20 years, I would volunteer for for the vanilla Su-25 force with real dials immediately! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
CyBerkut Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 I wonder if this 1 MFCD design is the best. When you lose it for some reason you will be like blind. The article indicated that it was two 8 x 10 displays side-by-side. If one is lost, data is transferred to the other. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] There's no place like 127.0.0.1
topol-m Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 The article indicated that it was two 8 x 10 displays side-by-side. If one is lost, data is transferred to the other. Oh i didn`t read it. I was looking at the pictures. Well 2 is better than 1 :) 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
joey45 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Oh i didn`t read it. I was looking at the pictures.... hahahaaha :megalol::megalol::lol::lol: hahahahahahahahaha:) 1 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
CE_Mikemonster Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Just in case somebody didn't read the whole article I thought i'd paste here. EDIT: haha looks like I missed it! Too many cowboys. Not enough indians. GO APE SH*T
GGTharos Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Hey, what's that at the top left on the bottom picture? Lifebar? :D 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
topol-m Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Hey, what's that at the top left on the bottom picture? Lifebar? :D Lol :laugh: +1 Boy i need a health pack... 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RedTiger Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Hey, what's that at the top left on the bottom picture? Lifebar? :D They already play with labels on, why not just go the whole nine yards? :lol: 1
mvsgas Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 Official JSF Program Update Presentation Have you guys seen this before Official JSF Program Update Presentation http://www.aviationweek.com/media/pdf/JSF_Program_Update.pdf 1 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Griffin Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 That was really interesting. Thanks for sharing!
topol-m Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 Yep, great find mate. :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Wilde Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 Some nice pics and stuff in there. What intrigued me was slide 33 showing usable weapons. Quite an arsenal it can choose from (those external tanks look freaky, are they new?) but only 4 A2A missiles: 120 B/C , 9X and ASRAAM. Is this very old information? Or very conservative/reserved? Many F-35 fans always claimed that the units in service would carry 120D. It's a bit strange, that so many projected subsystems are mentioned, but not the most important weapon as claimed by many fans. And that last slide had me thinking they were kinda crash-testing it there at first glance. Had a brief WTF moment there. ;)
mvsgas Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) I think the best slides was the one showing the radar mapping, that detected the cracks on the runway. I do not know if this is normal operation on modern radars but impressive non he less. Also, it looks like there are hyperlink to video but I could not get them to work, any luck for you guys? Edited September 19, 2009 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
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