Skyracer Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 I heard from different fighter pilot documentaries that during high loads (7g+). It is impossible to move your head around. Is there any plan to implement something similar to the game? 4 MY SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel pentium 3 @ 800 MHz, 256 Mb RAM, Geforce 2 64Mb, Dell screen 1024x768 + Microsoft sidewhiner joystick + TrackIR 2 + TrackClitPro SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 98, Noice Attack & VIASAT PRO, SnackView Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlikely_spider Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Sounds like a good way to create Nausea Simulator VR! 2 Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 You could just not move your head. 2 i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exorcet Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 This sounds like an obvious improvement but when you look at it, it's difficult to do. In real life your head movement is restrained by your physical body and is something you adjust to over a life time. In VR this is not the case and adding limits could feel completely unrealistic. DCS does have view limits if you use a hat switch to look around, and even in this case it causes more problems them realism. Before the view limits were added it was easy to move your view from one shoulder to the other. However with the view limits added the game forces you to slowly pan in the opposite direction to view over the opposite shoulder. It's awkward, feels silly, and is slower than it would be in real life. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 11:06 AM, Skyracer said: I heard from different fighter pilot documentaries that during high loads (7g+). It is impossible to move your head around. Is there any plan to implement something similar to the game? Don't move your head while pulling G. There ya go! Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmptohocah Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I never used VR but would forced slow view re-centering during high load work? I completely agree with the OP, you're not gonna be looking around under high loads. 2 Cmptohocah=CMPTOHOCAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I looked around on my viper B incentive ride all the way up to 8.9, and never had an issue with moving and looking wherever I wanted, I was retiring at age 39 at the time. My pilot was 26 and he was soaked in sweat even worse than I was when we came back 2.5 hours later. At 8.9 the only thing that happened was my left eye lost color for a millisecond. I can tell you what you don't do or can't do is sit still, instinct itself has you fighting it and you squeeze and strain with everything you got, moving as much as you possible can sure helps, that includes your head and neck. He told me he was surprised how much an old bastard like me could take, we sort of knew each other fairly well. I was used to pulling lower levels of G while standing on my feet doing drops in Starlizards and Herc's in my 20's while all geared up and even heavier, that was actually much worse to me, but I got paid to stay in the plane and open and shut the doors. Some of our guys ended up with back injuries and broken tail bones doing that, all part of that career field. Do that for a decade or so and you have a life time immunity from ever getting air or motion sickness. That certainly helped, much of the ability to pull G is mindset, how well do you know your own comfort levels and limits. Guys who are pros and do it regular don't even notice it, it's just another small part of the job, not the focus. A newby coming in for just a ride, it's going to be the single focal point when you pass their threshold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 It’s realistic to be able to turn and look 2 i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyracer Posted May 7, 2022 Author Share Posted May 7, 2022 22 hours ago, SharpeXB said: It’s realistic to be able to turn and look That not a 9g turn! MY SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel pentium 3 @ 800 MHz, 256 Mb RAM, Geforce 2 64Mb, Dell screen 1024x768 + Microsoft sidewhiner joystick + TrackIR 2 + TrackClitPro SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 98, Noice Attack & VIASAT PRO, SnackView Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Skyracer said: That not a 9g turn! Well he’s pulling some Gs for sure. @Nodakabove said he could turn his head at 9Gs It’s no use trying to force head movement effort in a PC sim, it would just make VR players sick. i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyracer Posted May 7, 2022 Author Share Posted May 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, SharpeXB said: Well he’s pulling some Gs for sure. @Nodakabove said he could turn his head at 9Gs It’s no use trying to force head movement effort in a PC sim, it would just make VR players sick. Their is no proof that he actually is a real fighter pilot. MY SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel pentium 3 @ 800 MHz, 256 Mb RAM, Geforce 2 64Mb, Dell screen 1024x768 + Microsoft sidewhiner joystick + TrackIR 2 + TrackClitPro SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 98, Noice Attack & VIASAT PRO, SnackView Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Skyracer said: Their is no proof that he actually is a real fighter pilot. Well again, there’s no point in worrying about this effect in the game, it can’t be simulated. Unless you want force-feedback VR headsets Edited May 7, 2022 by SharpeXB 1 i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I was never a fighter pilot, was a Loadmaster in two different types C-141B's C-130A, B/E, and finished as engineer in C-130B/E. It was an incentive ride for retirement, I ended my last few years as flightline working MOC. That makes it even more evident, an old man non-fighter pilot can do it. I have an official "magic carpet ride" certificate proving I did it, but I ain't going to dig it out, cause I don't give a rip. Also rode two sorties in T-33 back seat, and two in the mighty F-4D Phantom II. The perks of going to the required altitude chamber sessions when your a trash hauler and integrated into a ANG fighter squadron. But the ViperB was the real ride with a full AHM sortie. For those of you who never worked the MOC or debrief, that's a Advance Handling and Maneuver sortie. Most Air Force dudes don't even know that specific type of sortie exists, cause it gets very rarely logged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droning_On Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 On 5/7/2022 at 2:48 AM, SharpeXB said: Well again, there’s no point in worrying about this effect in the game, it can’t be simulated. Unless you want force-feedback VR headsets hmmmm 3d printing idea...... helmet... elastic cord.. stepper motors..... = brain tumor Spoiler AMD Ryzen 5 5600x [OC_4700Mhz 1.27v All Core], AMD Rx6700XT 12GB, 32Gb DDR4_3200 CL16, M.2_NVMe(OS) + 1TB M.2 SSD for DCS install , Delan opentrack IR, QHD 1440p@75Mhz 32" HDR Monitor. Hotas heavy modded T.Flight Hotas One - 3D printed Mods. 3D Printed Pedals 3D prinded Delan Clip, Future mods…Upgrade T.flight to Hall sensors…more switches….F-16 ICP, Spitfire/Mossie switch labels and future Athentikit Spit Mk iX controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShuRugal Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 I'm a bit late to this part, but the #1 Rule, the Holy VR Bible First Commandment, is "Never hijack the camera" - 100% guaranteed to make players sick and hate your game, even for people like myself who ordinarily never get sick in VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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