unable to reproduce Loading Chaff in Mission Editor

[Caldera]

I can not load chaff from the Mission Editor.  Both values for Chaff and Flares are greyed out and the values can not be changed.

The Rearm Refuel window is the only way I can add Chaff.  Both the Chaff and Flare sliders work correctly.

Caldera

[NineLine]

Looking into it, I know the system is WIP. 

[NineLine]

Just to follow up on this, the intent is not to allow changes to the load out of flares and chaff at all right now. This is based on real world info and feedback. Thanks.

[GKOver]

I am also missing chaff…..

If this „is based on real world info“, it means that the Apache doesn‘t have chaff at all. And why is it selectable IN the game?

 

[Floyd1212]

You should have chaff. 

[GKOver]

I have exactly the same problem as described in the first post of Caldera:

„Both values for Chaff and Flares are greyed out and the values can not be changed.“

[Floyd1212]

When you spawn into your aircraft, despite what the ME says, do you have 60 flares and 30 chaff?

That is the default setting, and should be present when you spawn, and when you rearm. At least, that is the way it seems to work for me. 

[Lord Vader]

Hi @GKOver

As stated above, the locking of chaff and flare quantity is by design, based on real life data and cannot be changed.

The default is 60 flares and 30 chaff canisters. I just tested this myself and is indeed in game.

If you mean you can't fire the chaff countermeasure, you need to activate it in the ASE page. It's not operated by the CMWS. 

[GKOver]

As I habe written above I have the same situation as in the first screenshot:

my default is 60 flares and 0 chaff and they are greyed out so I can‘t change anything.

Edited June 26, 2024 by GKOver

[razo+r]

4 minutes ago, GKOver said:

As I habe written above I have the same situation as in the first screenshot:

my default is 60 flares and 0 chaff and they are greyed out so I can‘t change anything.

 

But when you press fly do you still have 0 chaff or actually did it load some chaff into the aircraft? 

Edited June 26, 2024 by razo+r

[admiki]

I haven't seen 0 chaff in a long time?

GKO, what version of DCS are you running?

[BIGNEWY]

please attach your dcs log if it happens, also ensure you are not using any unofficial tools or mods. 

thank you 

[GKOver]

I am not using any mods or tools.

I have installed the newest Beta version.

It always happens when I open my existing mission in the ME.

Edited June 27, 2024 by GKOver

[razo+r]

1 hour ago, GKOver said:

I am not using any mods or tools.

I have installed the newest Beta version.

It always happens when I open my existing mission in the ME.

 

But when you press fly, is there still 0 chaff loaded into your aircraft or not? 

[Floyd1212]

1 hour ago, GKOver said:

It always happens when I open my existing mission in the ME.

I think you are missing the point.

Ignore what it shows in the ME and when you spawn in you should have your 60/30 loadout.

[GKOver]

When I spawn, I have 0 chaffs.

 

It doesn‘t „happen“, it is always.

Edited June 28, 2024 by GKOver

[admiki]

Send track/miz file.

I'll check it over.

[GKOver]

Thanks for your offer.

 

But I have found the reason by myself and found a solution:

The problem has been in my mission file.

I have added another group with Apaches and there I got the non-editable 60/30 Flare/Chaff-amount.

My old Apache group still had the non-editable 60/0 Flare/Chaff-amount in it, which I couldn‘t change. (In the game I just had at the beginning „chaff = out“.)

 

I have solved the problem in this faulty mission file by changing the Apache group to another type of helicopters and changed it back again to Apaches -> 60/30 -> OK

Edited July 1, 2024 by GKOver