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AI is found to be unable to guide LGB/Laser Guided Rockets onto targets in the latest stable update as of 22/5/2022, even with TGP mounted.

The issue appears to exist on the all AI-driven aircraft, including but not limited to F18, A10CII, F16, F15E,AV8B, SU30. See attached youtube video,  tracks file and mission editor file.

Would ED please look into it as LGB is pretty much useless in this update.

 

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Same situation with Su-25A and Kh-25ML and Kh-29L missiles. The weird thing is that S-25L rockets (which are also laser guided) works fine with Su-25A. Moreover, Kh-25ML and Kh-29L missiles works ok with u-25T.


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Mission editor test file for Su-25A attached. AI misses 100-90% shots in SU-25A.
In identical mission parameters Su-25T hits targets with every missile fired.

Can someone from ED look into this? It's really annoying, especially for SP that relies on AI for mission scenarios to work.

BTW am I missing something or the Su-34 in DCS dosen't have a GUN as a weapon???? In ME payload section there is no gun/ammo quantity option, and it attacks groud units with missiles/bombs and then goes RTB...

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On 5/21/2022 at 11:14 PM, Hymlee said:

AI is found to be unable to guide LGB/Laser Guided Rockets onto targets in the latest stable update as of 22/5/2022, even with TGP mounted.

The issue appears to exist on the all AI-driven aircraft, including but not limited to F18, A10CII, F16, F15E,AV8B, SU30. See attached youtube video,  tracks file and mission editor file.

Would ED please look into it as LGB is pretty much useless in this update.

I am going to see if the the AI guys can tell me if the AI can properly track moving vehicles with their TGPs. The hits were not as close as I might expect, even on Ace. 

 

3.trk 162.79 kB · 3 downloads test2.miz 8.79 kB · 5 downloads

I watched your track internally, and it showed the AI killing 4 tanks with 3 LGBs. 

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On 6/1/2022 at 6:56 AM, ZEE JAY said:

Mission editor test file for Su-25A attached. AI misses 100-90% shots in SU-25A.
In identical mission parameters Su-25T hits targets with every missile fired.

Can someone from ED look into this? It's really annoying, especially for SP that relies on AI for mission scenarios to work.

BTW am I missing something or the Su-34 in DCS dosen't have a GUN as a weapon???? In ME payload section there is no gun/ammo quantity option, and it attacks groud units with missiles/bombs and then goes RTB...

Su-25.miz 7.76 kB · 1 download Su-25T.miz 7.68 kB · 1 download

I have asked our AI dev about this. In Open Beta the AI misses wildly at times, but in our internal dev build its perfect on shots. 

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On 6/3/2022 at 4:18 PM, NineLine said:

I have asked our AI dev about this. In Open Beta the AI misses wildly at times, but in our internal dev build its perfect on shots. 

Its not a issue of the bomb guiding inaccurately, it doesn't guide at all, it doesn't snap toward anything like its tracking.  Hope that helps.

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I want to add, that in a mission with twelve T-90s on the move, we only got two positive hits with GBU-12. Which forced us to replace the GBU-12 with AGM-65F. The bomb is guided, but appears to be inaccurate when the target is moving, or any other factor, such as wind. It can take down a normal vehicle for damage, but an armored one will be left untouched.

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1 hour ago, PhoenixSims said:

Its not a issue of the bomb guiding inaccurately, it doesn't guide at all, it doesn't snap toward anything like its tracking.  Hope that helps.

There is a fix internally that hasnt been merged, I hope that addresses these issues. 

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On 6/5/2022 at 9:27 AM, NineLine said:

There is a fix internally that hasnt been merged, I hope that addresses these issues. 

Hi, after the last update (2.7.15.25026 Open Beta) unfortunately nothing has changed. Has this fix been implemented?

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I've been doing a lot of tests, and this proved interesting:

  • GBU-24 is not affected at all
  • GBU-16 is moderately affected
  • GBU-10 and GBU-12 are strongly affected

Launch altitude and target speed are also important factors.

Issue reported.


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GBU-10 is affected as well

Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever.

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Sadly this obvious bug could not be fixed For months.

18分钟前,Flappie说:

I've been doing a lot of tests, and this proved interesting:

  • GBU-24 is not affected at all
  • GBU-16 is moderately affected
  • GBU-12 is strongly affected

Launch altitude and target speed are also important factors.

Issue reported.

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