AI Wingman lowers flaps with wings swept back

[Tomcatter87]

In a Case 1 scenario, the AI wingman in the A model tomcat (didnt try the F-14B in that regard) lowers his flaps although the wings are swept back. That shouldnt be possible.

[AH_Solid_Snake]

On a related note during recovery as they clear the deck AI F-14s will sweep their wings before the flaps retract, also going through the fuselage.

[RaisedByWolves]

Concur with original post. 

[Tomcatter87]

That bug is still there, and it really bugs me.

[IronMike]

On 9/27/2022 at 11:55 AM, Tomcatter87 said:

That bug is still there, and it really bugs me.

Hey Tomcatter, somehow this managed to fly completely under my radar, my apologies. It is tracked now.

We need to check if this is something to be fixed on our side or DCS side, but we will investigate further. Thank you very much for the kind reports and reminder!

[Tomcatter87]

Thanks, Mike!

[Tomcatter87]

@IronMike This is still an issue in the current open beta version. It would be really cool if you guys could fix that - as a screenshot creator whos also working on some videos, that bug with the flaps piercing into the fuselage witnullh swept back wings really spoils one of the coolest parts of the flight.

Edited November 29, 2022 by Tomcatter87

[Nealius]

@Tomcatter87 Do you do most of your screenshots paused in single player? In multiplayer replay tracks my AI wingmen don't appear to sweep their wings at all. 

[Tomcatter87]

17 hours ago, Nealius said:

@Tomcatter87 Do you do most of your screenshots paused in single player? In multiplayer replay tracks my AI wingmen don't appear to sweep their wings at all. 

Yes, it's 95 percent single player with pause.

[Tomcatter87]

Bug's still there

[RustBelt]

I suspect, like many things, it’s a half Heatblur, half ED kind if problem. 
 

Meaning, don’t hold your breath. 

[Tomcatter87]

So, eight months after the first report, this is still happening. Could you please look at it, @IronMike and Heatblur team?

Edited April 24, 2023 by Tomcatter87

[Tomcatter87]

It's still there. Please find a way to fix it. 

Edited April 24, 2023 by Tomcatter87

[Silhou]

@Tomcatter87hey! Thanks for the heads up on this. Will let the team know.

[Tomcatter87]

I have the feeling it might be related: while cruising, the AI wingmen do weird stuff with their flaps

 

 

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[Tomcatter87]

Sad to see this is still a thing. 

Edited August 30, 2023 by Tomcatter87

[Spartan111sqn]

and also AI has a different AoA and sweep wing angle than you when flying at the same speed and altitude. It seems that it is also a problem of the AI flight model, far away of the F-14 flight model

[Nealius]

Probably won't get fixed until we get the GFM. 

[draconus]

On 9/2/2023 at 6:34 PM, Nealius said:

Probably won't get fixed until we get the GFM. 

Sweep depends on Mach and altitude - nothing a SFM can't handle.

[Nealius]

Ideally, but DCS SFM tends to mean “Special-needs Flight Model.”

Edited September 12, 2023 by Nealius

[Tomcatter87]

Thing is, there WAS a time when it looked correct. Just went through my old screenshots and once upon a time the flaps of the wingman didnt clip into the fuselage / rubber bags.

[Tomcatter87]

Checked it yesterday, it is still an issue. @IronMike

[Tomcatter87]

It's now two years and four months since I first reported this. See my screenshot, taken yesterday. As soon as I call inbound to the carrier, the wingman's flaps start behaving in a way it should not be possible. It really looks awful and I think it's a bummer there hasn't been a fix for this. 

Screen-241011-222301 hosted at ImgBB — ImgBB (ibb.co) 

Edited October 12, 2024 by Tomcatter87

[Tomcatter87]

Flying the Tomcat again those days I was reminded this bug is still there @Silhou @IronMike . It really looks ugly, it would be much appreciated if it was finally resolved.