noted AGM-154A JSOW missing settings

[Guest]

Hello and good day together, unfortunately the following settings are still missing for the above mentioned weapon: ATK AZ, EGEA, ROB. Is there an approximate time window for the introduction of these settings. 

[Mr. Wilson]

@BIGNEWY @NineLine in this topic

AGM154A and are marked in green, that is, they are considered ready, but in fact at the moment their settings page does not work. Is it possible to fix this or update the status of this weapon in the list so that it can be seen that it is not ready? 

Thanks

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

We may consider these features later if time and resources allow.

thank you

[Ignition]

I imagine it is possible to change it in the control page. But in DCS is not implemented so the bomb is really inaccurate with wind because of the BLU-97 flying away from the target.

Having the possibility to change the altitude may increase the chance of hiting the target?

Edited October 29, 2022 by Ignition

[TEOMOOSE]

I mean, its one your flagship module and its advertised on almost all official announcements. It would be awesome if you could just write it on your low priority list instead to just say "We may consider these features". Things like that will improve the overall quality of the aircraft. The devil is in the details. The little things can make the biggest improvements.

[Mr. Wilson]

The AGM-154A bombs have been released for a very long time since then in the list of aircraft systems they are painted green as if they are ready, but this is not so...

At the moment, the CNTL settings page is still blocked, because of this it is not possible to edit the canister opening height parameter, Is it possible to fix this in the next patch? Or fix its status from green to blue so this system is not ready. 

PS: Оn the hornet, changing opening height was available from the very beginning. 

 

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[Furiz]

Same goes for GBU-24, and some other weapons. This should be corrected,

But it is not a bug.

[Mr. Wilson]

41 минуту назад, Furiz сказал:

Same goes for GBU-24, and some other weapons. This should be corrected,

But it is not a bug.

yes this is not a bug but a problem, as well as a status error in the system list.

[BIGNEWY]

1 hour ago, Mr. Wilson said:

Is it possible to fix this in the next patch?

Hi, when it is ready it will be in the patch notes, I can not give you any eta currently.

I have moved out of the bugs section as it is not a bug. 

thank you

[Mr. Wilson]

@BIGNEWY @NineLine Hello, I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate you on the New Year holidays...

 I want to refresh this topic in the new year, because in the nearest published plans for F16 there are no changes with these weapons... 

Тhis weapon is still everywhere on the forum in official posts marked in green as if it is ready, but this is not so because there is completely no possibility of all the settings for this ammunition. I understand that not all parameters have been implemented now, but there is one most important parameter that has been implemented on the Hornet aircraft for a long time - this is the height of the opening of the canister. I would really like to see the implementation of this parameter on F16 in the near future, since this is sorely lacking in online battles

 

[SickSidewinder9]

Pretty sure we should be able to set impact/delivery azimuth too.

[llOPPOTATOll]

Also MPPRE is missing 

[munckmb]

Can we expect the following features for the JSOW?

Attack/impact azimuth and EGEA and ROB implemented and MPPRE mode? That would make it a more complete weapon.

 

[ACS_Dev]

What do these features actually do?

[SickSidewinder9]

On 7/2/2023 at 3:05 PM, ACS_Dev said:

What do these features actually do?

Impact angle would be the angle at which the bomb dives on its target at the end.  Attack azimuth allows you to specify a direction that the bomb should be going when it hits the target.  A lot of GPS guided weapons can have waypoints and hit the target from certain angles.  In DCS, this would be especially useful for the cluster type JSOW's since it would control what direction the bomblets spread out in.  example:  destroying a flight line.  How it works in DCS now is you have to precisely line up the plane.  How it really works with a lot of GPS weapons is you don't.  The hornet has attack heading selection, but I'm not sure it does anything.  (also not sure if it's magnetic or true, lol).

I can't remember if burst height is adjustable either.  Not sure about the other stuff.
It seems like some settings are missing from other weapons: spin from WCMD (would control how far it sends out the submunitions), spin animation on the GBU-24 and maybe other bombs.  I suppose it doesn't work in DCS since it actually uses the bomb's aerodynamics to computer and guide, but they should be spinning when they fall.  You can especially tell on the 24's because the control surfaces are staggered in relation to each other.  That should make the bomb spin, but computing the bomb drop would probably break our CPU's.  The way to fix this would be to have animations of bombs not connected to how it flies.  IDK why that's not the case.  Maybe it is, and I'm just talking out of my ass.  But if it is already the case, why don't the bombs spin when they fall?  Seems lazy.  Like the lack of 4k textures for aircraft.
Also, if you added a functioning attack azimuth the plane would have to calculate release for that too.  Unless they don't IRL, but that would be odd.
Anyway, would be nice to have more complete weapon functions.
Oh, there's also no delayed fusing option on the GBU-24.  Seems odd that that wouldn't be there.

[Guest]

After more than a year of waiting, I would like to bring this contribution back to memory.  Is there now finally a time window for the missing CNTL page on the AGM-154 A jsow?

[IR.Clutch]

22 часа назад, RedHorse сказал:

After more than a year of waiting, I would like to bring this contribution back to memory

I've got a similar question

[Furiz]

Almost all smart weapons are missing features,  gbu-24 missing settings, HSD is missing functionalities, HAD missing stuff etc etc, progress is very slow atm. 

[WHOGX5]

1 hour ago, Furiz said:

Almost all smart weapons are missing features,  gbu-24 missing settings, HSD is missing functionalities, HAD missing stuff etc etc, progress is very slow atm. 

Indeed, if you go back and check the changelogs, the rate of bugfixes and addition of new features for the DCS F-16C has seen a dramatic reduction in 2023. Resources have most likely been moved elsewhere to focus on other ED products.

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, WHOGX5 said:

Indeed, if you go back and check the changelogs, the rate of bugfixes and addition of new features for the DCS F-16C has seen a dramatic reduction in 2023. Resources have most likely been moved elsewhere to focus on other ED products.

This is not true. Tasks at the end of a project tend to be the hardest or have to have more time invested into them. When we have new progress to share we will.

thank you

[NineLine]

Please stick with the topic, thanks. Also note this request was answered already.

[Guest]

The same question as the last two years, when is the CNTL page coming?  Nothing has been changed.

[AKULA_OPTIMUS]

It will never come, just accept it. Its a useless weapon when there´s wind, and it will always be.