Internal Field of View in options?

[ThorBrasil]

@BIGNEWY or @NineLine Can you ask the team for an option to limit the internal FOV of the aircraft? The same has been added for the external FOV in the options. I say this to avoid the famous fisheye. So I can limit the options. Thanks!

 

[SharpeXB]

Yes. An FOV setting in the main menu would be a great feature. I think it’s possible to set this in the lua but that gets overridden in mp if I recall. 

I'm sure this was set up for triple screens but it looks ridiculous for most players.

Edited December 6, 2022 by SharpeXB

[SharpeXB]

bump... it's crazy that this isn't an option on the main settings menu

[MadKreator]

Or at least have  the world fov/ view zoom save when you use RAlt+NumPad0 to save your adjusted default view.

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, MadKreator said:

Or at least have  the world fov/ view zoom save when you use RAlt+NumPad0 to save your adjusted default view.

Right. I just discovered that this doesn’t work. I think the game just overwrites any lua files you copy to Saved Games files. So trying to set a max zoom value in the lua doesn’t work either. 

[SharpeXB]

This might be the solution but it’s hard to tell if it’s just setting the max FOV or adjusting the “normal” zoom level. Although it looks like they’re related  @Rudel_chw would this work for just setting a max FOV?

 

Edited December 12, 2022 by SharpeXB

[draconus]

On 10/29/2022 at 3:15 AM, ThorBrasil said:

avoid the famous fisheye

Best way to avoid it is to not use high fov.

[SharpeXB]

50 minutes ago, draconus said:

Best way to avoid it is to not use high fov.

Well the question here is how to do that. Whenever you zoom out you’ll get the fisheye even if you don’t want it. 
 

 

Here’s an idea for ED that would take practically no time to implement. Change the default max FOV to something normal like 95. Then if anyone really wants the fisheye they can go mess around with the .lua files. But spare the rest of us. No other game in the world has a bonkers FOV like this, not sure why it’s in DCS. 

[Rudel_chw]

3 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

  @Rudel_chw would this work for just setting a max FOV?

 

Yes, it works .. you have to set the parameter "CameraViewAngleLimits" on your Server.lua file (within your /Saved Games/ folder, so it does not impact IC. This parameter looks like this: 

CameraViewAngleLimits      = {20.000000,210.000000},

 

With that, the zoom controls of DCS will not allow you to exceed these limits. Please note that the mid value of this range will now correspond to the Zoom Normal FOV, on this example it would be (20+210) / 2 = 115 degrees.  So, if you increase the max FOV too much, you will also increase your normal zoom.

[SharpeXB]

17 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Yes, it works .. you have to set the parameter "CameraViewAngleLimits" on your Server.lua file (within your /Saved Games/ folder, so it does not impact IC. This parameter looks like this: 

CameraViewAngleLimits      = {20.000000,210.000000},

 

With that, the zoom controls of DCS will not allow you to exceed these limits. Please note that the mid value of this range will now correspond to the Zoom Normal FOV, on this example it would be (20+210) / 2 = 115 degrees.  So, if you increase the max FOV too much, you will also increase your normal zoom.

I tried this but it didn't work

-- View scripts 
-- Copyright (C) 2004, Eagle Dynamics.
DisableCombatViews                = false -- F5 & Ctrl-F5
ExternalObjectsLockDistance     = 10000.0
ShowTargetInfo                     = false
CameraTerrainRestriction         = true
hAngleRearDefault                 =  180
vAngleRearDefault                 = -8.0
vAngleRearMin                    = -90 -- -8.0
vAngleRearMax                    = 90.0

--reformatted per-unit data to be mod system friendly 
--this file is no longer should be edited for adding new flyable aircraft , DCS automatically check core database (i.e. where you define your aircraft in aircraft table just define ViewSettings and SnapViews tables)

function default_fighter_player(t)
    local res = { 
        CameraViewAngleLimits  = {20.000000,95.000000},
        CameraAngleRestriction = {false       ,90.000000,0.500000},
        EyePoint               = {0.05     ,0.000000 ,0.000000},
        limits_6DOF            = {x = {-0.050000,0.4500000},y ={-0.300000,0.100000},z = {-0.220000,0.220000},roll = 90.000000},
        Allow360rotation       = false,
        CameraAngleLimits      = {200,-80.000000,110.000000},
        ShoulderSize            = 0.2,  -- move body when azimuth value more then 90 degrees
    }
    if t then 
        for i,o in pairs(t) do
            res[i] = o
        end
    end
    return res
end

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, SharpeXB said:

I tried this but it didn't work

 

Is that your Server.lua file? ... at /Saved Games/DCS/Config/View/ ?

 

The values for CameraViewAngleLimits  = {20.000000,95.000000} ... seem incorrect, as your Normal view FOV would end up as (20+95)/2 equals 57.5 degrees

Edited December 12, 2022 by Rudel_chw

[SharpeXB]

29 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Is that your Server.lua file? ... at /Saved Games/DCS/Config/View/ ?

 

The values for CameraViewAngleLimits  = {20.000000,95.000000} ... seem incorrect, as your Normal view FOV would end up as (20+95)/2 equals 57.5 degrees

 

Yeah I copied the Server.lua into my Saved Games/DCS//Config/View. I’m trying to just set the max angle instead of normal since to me they’re the same thing, if I want a “normal” view I’d rather just zoom out. But I still get the wacky fisheye. 

Edited December 12, 2022 by SharpeXB

[Rudel_chw]

5 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

Yeah I copied the Server.lua into my Saved Games/DCS//Config/View. I’m trying to just set the max angle instead of normal since to me they’re the same thing, if I want a “normal” view I’d rather just zoom out. But I still get the wacky fisheye. 

 

 

I'd like to reproduce .. which specific aircraft are you using?

the way DCS views work, they won't allow you to have a normal zoom equal to maximum .. you specify the minimum and maximum FOVs and DCS will set the normal Zoom at its mid-point.

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

I'd like to reproduce .. which specific aircraft are you using?

the way DCS views work, they won't allow you to have a normal zoom equal to maximum .. you specify the minimum and maximum FOVs and DCS will set the normal Zoom at its mid-point.

I’m using the Hornet. Yes I get that the “normal” zoom is the mid-point. I’m just interested using the min and max. 

Edited December 13, 2022 by SharpeXB

[SharpeXB]

I have a fresh install of 2.7 Stable

without any modified files in Saved Games the default I get for the views is:

Narrow 20, Wide 140

But Normal varies per module, I get

Hornet 63

A-10CII 73

M-2000C 65

Normal zoom seems to be set by RAlt+Num0 “Save Cockpit View Angles”. But it needs to be set every time you launch the game. Doing this creates a SnapViews.lua in your Saved Games but I don’t see where the value is in the text.

Trying to set the max zoom on the A-10C II doesn’t work either. 

Edited December 13, 2022 by SharpeXB