[FIXED] I don’t know if it’s a bug or not but the LS-6 250 is not precise

[isglas]

So to start off with yes the bombs are fully align, did a full fast INS and turns on the GPS on startup and I’m definitely with in the correct range.

 

With that said have I experienced the LS-6 250 to ether overshoot or go short of the target while being in pre plane mode and utilize the F-10 pp waypoints (I have only used the f-10 waypoints so can’t speak for anything else). Should the bombs go sort/long for the target or might it be a potential bug?

Edited November 6, 2022 by uboats

[Dr_Pavelheer]

Check altitude of the waypoints, if its off bombs will fall short or long depending on the difference

[J20Stronk]

2 hours ago, isglas said:

did a full fast INS

There's your problem. IAMs require GC alignment.

[isglas]

52 minutes ago, J20Stronk said:

There's your problem. IAMs require GC alignment.

The fast ins have work before 2.8 just fine

2 hours ago, Dr_Pavelheer said:

Check altitude of the waypoints, if its off bombs will fall short or long depending on the difference

they are at default

[El Phantasmo]

fast might work within a short flight but wont be as accurate as GC alignment and will degrade precision a lot quicker

 

[DroptheHammer]

4 hours ago, isglas said:

The fast ins have work before 2.8 just fine

Fast INS is really a scramble setting mostly for air defense work.  Where being off a few hundred feet isnt a big deal.

[sylkhan]

Did many tests for LS-6 & GB-6.

JF-17 start in the air, 4 M1A2 to kill.

I have 30% hit for GB-6 & LS-6 (TOO/PP mode).

Seems there is an accuracy problem with theses PGMs.

[Falconeer]

13 hours ago, sylkhan said:

Did many tests for LS-6 & GB-6.

JF-17 start in the air, 4 M1A2 to kill.

I have 30% hit for GB-6 & LS-6 (TOO/PP mode).

Seems there is an accuracy problem with theses PGMs.

By how many do they miss? 

 

GPS guided bomb are not as precise as laser guided bombs. It's "ok" if the miss by a couple of feet, especially against vehicles

[Pede]

On 11/3/2022 at 12:25 PM, sylkhan said:

Did many tests for LS-6 & GB-6.

JF-17 start in the air, 4 M1A2 to kill.

I have 30% hit for GB-6 & LS-6 (TOO/PP mode).

Seems there is an accuracy problem with theses PGMs.

Cam you upload a track file? My hit rate with GB-6's in any mode is probably 100% (I can't recall the GB-6 ever missing, and I've dropped well over 100 of them)

[sylkhan]

13 hours ago, Pede said:

Cam you upload a track file? My hit rate with GB-6's in any mode is probably 100% (I can't recall the GB-6 ever missing, and I've dropped well over 100 of them)

ok

4 ls6 vs bunkers, 0 hit

But good results with GB6

 

EDIT : It seems it was due to a mod, i have delete all mod, redo some test, and all seems ok with LS6

 

Edited November 5, 2022 by sylkhan

[sylkhan]

Small targets are more hard to hit, but perhaps it's ok with gps/ins guided mutnitions.

 

[Pede]

1 hour ago, sylkhan said:

Small targets are more hard to hit, but perhaps it's ok with gps/ins guided mutnitions.

 

Are you fully aligned? Those are not normal misses. GPS/INS isn't perfect but that last one is very very far off target. 

[sylkhan]

7 minutes ago, Pede said:

Are you fully aligned? Those are not normal misses. GPS/INS isn't perfect but that last one is very very far off target. 

I start in the air to do the tests, then i think i am fully aligned

[sylkhan]

Track

testls6.trk

[uboats]

should be fixed internally now

[sylkhan]

Thanks @uboats 

 

Edited November 6, 2022 by sylkhan

[uboats]

if you want to try it locally

here are files copy to: coremods/aircraft/chinaassetpack/entries/loadout/

jsow_ls6.lua jdam_ls6.lua

[sylkhan]

Tested and approuved (too & pp modes)

works perfectly.

@uboats just a quick question.

- in PP mode, if we have 2 dual Ls6-250, we can only select 2 channels (1 per rack) and not 4 channels, (1 per bomb)
Is that correct ?

Thanks

[uboats]

2 hours ago, sylkhan said:

Tested and approuved (too & pp modes)

works perfectly.

@uboats just a quick question.

- in PP mode, if we have 2 dual Ls6-250, we can only select 2 channels (1 per rack) and not 4 channels, (1 per bomb)
Is that correct ?

Thanks

For this avionics, yes. what i know is newer ver can select rack

[sylkhan]

Ok, thx uboats

[Dr_Pavelheer]

Keep in mind that if you have target in point track and it reverts to INS area track (for instance because you had to maneuver and obscured the view) bomb will go towards the current waypoint instead of last known location, even though targeting pod will still point in the correct direction. In area track it doesn't happen

[Hiten Bongz]

8 hours ago, Dr_Pavelheer said:

Keep in mind that if you have target in point track and it reverts to INS area track (for instance because you had to maneuver and obscured the view) bomb will go towards the current waypoint instead of last known location, even though targeting pod will still point in the correct direction. In area track it doesn't happen

 

That sure sounds like a bug... 

[Dr_Pavelheer]

I know, I already reported it, I'm just saying that problems with the bomb may not necessarily stem from weapon itself

[BigBorner]

Am 6.11.2022 um 23:31 schrieb sylkhan:

Tested and approuved (too & pp modes)

works perfectly.

@uboats just a quick question.

- in PP mode, if we have 2 dual Ls6-250, we can only select 2 channels (1 per rack) and not 4 channels, (1 per bomb)
Is that correct ?

Thanks

You can sort or set it per weapon if you use 2 weapon profiles for the same weapon. I.e. profile 1 for PP1 and 2 and profile 2 for PP3 and 4 

[sylkhan]

3 hours ago, BigBorner said:

You can sort or set it per weapon if you use 2 weapon profiles for the same weapon. I.e. profile 1 for PP1 and 2 and profile 2 for PP3 and 4 

works good, thanks.