Gunfreak Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 So while the new AI works on other jets, and half works on the 15, it's still bonkers. MiG15 AI has infinite energy, it can keep turning and turning, tighting up the circle way past the F86 and then even after holding the tight circle so long that the F86 I'm following in just stalls for lack of speed, the MiG apperantly still has energy to just go fly upwards quite steeply while still turning. This happens against both Veteran and ace AI. 5 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Rudel_chw Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 This is just a rant, no track file, no tacview, no data for the developers to inspect, not placed on the Bugs section .. what a waste 5 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Exorcet Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 Until the GFM is released, do not expect the AI to fly within realistic limits. 1 Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
schurem Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 Also, the MiG is about 1200kg lighter than the sabre while having a similar amount of thrust. I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL
Mars Exulte Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 11/10/2022 at 2:02 PM, Rudel_chw said: This is just a rant, no track file, no tacview, no data for the developers to inspect, not placed on the Bugs section .. what a waste The MiG-15 FM is known to be completely borked, and has been for years, OP merely repeats what has been stated a million times before. On 11/13/2022 at 6:03 AM, schurem said: Also, the MiG is about 1200kg lighter than the sabre while having a similar amount of thrust. Completely irrelevant. It's been screwed up since day one. Likewise with the AI F-5, although the MiG is a much worse offender. On 11/10/2022 at 2:17 PM, Exorcet said: Until the GFM is released, do not expect the AI to fly within realistic limits. Unfortunately true, despite the fact it could be fixed with some table adjustments in an afternoon, those sort of easy fixes are typically the ones that linger longest around here. And before somebody comes in spurging about my ''easy fix'' comment. AI literally use what is effectively a spreadsheet. It is not a FM like for player aircraft. So yes, it is literally adjusting numbers. You can even do it yourself, or used to if it hasn'tbeen encrypted since then 10 Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2
Elf1606688794 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 11/10/2022 at 1:56 PM, Gunfreak said: So while the new AI works on other jets, and half works on the 15, it's still bonkers. MiG15 AI has infinite energy, it can keep turning and turning, tighting up the circle way past the F86 and then even after holding the tight circle so long that the F86 I'm following in just stalls for lack of speed, the MiG apperantly still has energy to just go fly upwards quite steeply while still turning. This happens against both Veteran and ace AI. Happens when the AI MiG-15 is on Rookie setting also. 4
Squiffy Posted September 17, 2024 Posted September 17, 2024 (edited) Yup, See my post below in FM Changes: How about AI model? Last time I checked, the FM matrix had a fault where lift was greater than zero at Mach = 0. This is impossible and can explain some of its Sputnik-like performance. This may have been done to avoid limit/infinity errors in the AI but it is still impossible in reality Sure it was great in the vertical and climb with it's Rolls-Royce derived engine. But at Mach=0, Lift=0. I can take a look later as I have upgraded to 2.9 but I think I would rather buy the F-4 than FC 2024. Edited September 17, 2024 by Squiffy 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] It's perfectly ordinary banter Squiffy, "Bally Jerry, pranged his kite, right in the 'how's your father.'" - Monty Python, RAF Banter Sketch. Squiffy, a. slang. 1. Intoxicated; drunk. 2. Askew, skew-whiff. - OED "Put that sucker in a 4G turn and keep it there!!" - Maj. Gen. "Boots" Blesse
AeriaGloria Posted September 23, 2024 Posted September 23, 2024 This guys SFM mod is very well researched and would help a lot. I believe he’s fine if ED uses or modifies it. If the gun data was changed using his info that would be awesome to, but I dream maybe Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Elf1606688794 Posted October 8, 2024 Posted October 8, 2024 On 9/22/2024 at 9:42 PM, AeriaGloria said: This guys SFM mod is very well researched and would help a lot. I believe he’s fine if ED uses or modifies it. If the gun data was changed using his info that would be awesome to, but I dream maybe Link to the mod?
AeriaGloria Posted October 8, 2024 Posted October 8, 2024 4 hours ago, Elf1606688794 said: Link to the mod? https://forum.dcs.world/topic/351306-sfm-performance-and-inaccuracies/#comment-5459098 1 1 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Dragon1-1 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 A lookup table can be perfectly fine, as long as the values are reasonably dense and derived from a realistic aerodynamic model (or the real charts). This is obviously not the case here. Until we get GFM, we should at least get the lookup tables fixed up. 1
irisono Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Am 23.3.2023 um 01:37 schrieb Mars Exulte: The MiG-15 FM is known to be completely borked, and has been for years, OP merely repeats what has been stated a million times before. Completely irrelevant. It's been screwed up since day one. Likewise with the AI F-5, although the MiG is a much worse offender. Unfortunately true, despite the fact it could be fixed with some table adjustments in an afternoon, those sort of easy fixes are typically the ones that linger longest around here. And before somebody comes in spurging about my ''easy fix'' comment. AI literally use what is effectively a spreadsheet. It is not a FM like for player aircraft. So yes, it is literally adjusting numbers. You can even do it yourself, or used to if it hasn'tbeen encrypted since then I completely agree with all three of your answers. I'm always amazed why there are people who try to gloss over obvious flaws, such as the FM behavior of some AI aircraft. It's also quite surprising that three and half years after the announcement, DCS still hasn't introduced GFM (see link below). https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/newsletters/a134f231fe8269e1c78dd6d0dd8c3c9d/ 2
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