correct as-is ATFLIR auto acquisition mode- Tdc depress needed for GPS munitions.

[bogusheadbox]

Using JDAM with ATFLIR pod.  Latest open beta as of 11/11/2022

In auto mode (atflir point track mode), I need to use TDC depress button to have the weapons accept target designation. Unless I am mistaken TDC depress in auto mode is to relocate atflir reticle, as weapon designation used to be automatic when in auto mode. 

The way I worked it previously was auto mode (atflir point track) did not need tdc depress as this mode automatically updated weapon on engagement. 

 

 

Edited November 12, 2022 by bogusheadbox
Better wording

[Tholozor]

Is it supposed to behave another way? TOO coordinates are written to the JDAM with TDC Depress.

 

[Foka]

It is like that for many months.

[bogusheadbox]

Reworded my issue above as I wasn't very clear.   Problem referencing auto mode

The way I understand it and the way I worked the atflir previous was any designation in auto mode updated target point.  Tdc depress in auto mode gives cursor to move atflir retical. 

Hence acquiring target with tdc left/right in direction of display changes from inr to scene to auto.  Upon entering auto tdc depress not required to update GPS guided munitions or auto bombing cue

At present, I have to (in auto mode) depress tdc for the weapons to guide to target.  A lock in auto no longer works. 

 

Unless I had a brain fart and forgot how it used to work. 

Edited November 11, 2022 by bogusheadbox
Better wording

[Foka]

"Auto" is a method of weapon delivery, not method of deignating target.
ATFLIR and sending target to a JDAM works always this same - for a year it worked incorrectly, when moving a TGP kept updating JDAM's target. Now it's back correct - you need to press TDC depress to send data to a JDAM.

[bogusheadbox]

Foka, I am not talking about the weapon delivery method. 

Auto is point track in the Atflir.  Atflir sensor modes are INR / SCENE / INR AUTO which leads to AUTO when acquisition is complete. 

For reference I am only talking about Atflir and how Auto (same as point track with litening) does not update weapon on the target. 

Just for clarity, in the past Atflir AUTO acquisition mode always updated weapon. In Auto mode, all TDC depress did was give you a cursor to slew sensor. 

As the targeting pod is not working as it did, I am referencing it as a bug, unless it is the new norm, which seems strange. 

 

It's no problem I can use SCENE mode,,tdc depress, pickle.   Or use AUTO (atflir point track), tdc depress, pickle.  But the last method leaves me with a cursor that is not needed nor required waiting to move my target designation. 

Edited November 12, 2022 by bogusheadbox

[Tholozor]

Depressing the TDC in AUTO track enables the offset cursor. Not sure why you'd want to engage a target with JDAMs in AUTO track to begin with though, since they can't hit moving targets. INR or SCENE is generally enough.

[Hulkbust44]

5 hours ago, Foka said:

"Auto" is a method of weapon delivery, not method of deignating target.
ATFLIR and sending target to a JDAM works always this same - for a year it worked incorrectly, when moving a TGP kept updating JDAM's target. Now it's back correct - you need to press TDC depress to send data to a JDAM.

"AUTO" Is a target designation and tracking mode for the ATFLIR. TDC depress is not, and can not be correct. 

[bogusheadbox]

6 hours ago, Tholozor said:

Depressing the TDC in AUTO track enables the offset cursor. Not sure why you'd want to engage a target with JDAMs in AUTO track to begin with though, since they can't hit moving targets. INR or SCENE is generally enough.

With all due respect.  I know this, I have written this several times above.  It doesn't matter which mode is best.  Auto mode can be used for stationary targets as well.  

What I am doing is advising an unreported change in the usability of an item.  This change I deem as a bug as it didn't work this way previously.  I have already found a work around and described a different method of using the item.  

There, and again with all due respect, if you don't know what I am talking about or cannot confirm or deny this as a bug, then this post really isn't for you to reply in.  Same goes with @Foka

[Foka]

@bogusheadbox it is not a place to make an accusations on people who are trying to help you. In most cases english isn't our first language and if you took a moment to describe clearly the problem it would make it easier for every one.

 

6 hours ago, Hulkbust44 said:

"AUTO" Is a target designation and tracking mode for the ATFLIR. TDC depress is not, and can not be correct. 

You're right, I forgot about that. 
I can't remeber how it worked previously. If it's incorrect it probably happend when ED fixed the problem with constatnt target update for JDAMs.

[bogusheadbox]

On 11/12/2022 at 11:38 AM, Foka said:

 it is not a place to make an accusations on people who are trying to help you. In most cases english isn't our first language and if you took a moment to describe clearly the problem it would make it easier for every one.

I did, several times in fact.  I rewrote multiple times, answered multiple times, and tried to clarify to you multiple times.  Nothing more i can do.  You simply didn't understand the problem.  Dont blame me.   

Take a look at your responses, they were not informative and actually way off of the mark.

My response was because of your responses.  Dont blame me.

As for trying to help, this is a forum for posting bugs, not speculation.  If you dont understand what i am writing about, you dont need to answer, especially the way you did.

 

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by bogusheadbox