not a bug GBU-10 and 12 not releasing in CCRP and DTOS mode when flying straight

[skywalker22]

Hmm, it seems I cannot release bombs GBU-10 and GBU-12 when flying straight forward. How is that so? Am I doing something wrong?

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After not releasing in horizontal position, I tried to pull up trying to reach solution cue, and then bomb dropped. Is this normal for CCPR and DROP mode? To always pull up?

Edited November 16, 2022 by skywalker22

[smire666]

Let's try to change the release-angle to "0". Had the same issue with dumb bombs before...

[QuiGon]

22 minutes ago, skywalker22 said:

Hmm, it seems I cannot release bombs GBU-10 and GBU-12 when flying straight forward. How is that so? Am I doing something wrong?

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After not releasing in horizontal position, I tried to pull up trying to reach solution cue, and then bomb dropped. Is this normal for CCPR and DROP mode? To always pull up?

 

You aborted too early. The first cue is the pul-up cue, not the release cue. Just keep flying straight and level and keep the pickle button pressed. A second cue will appear on the HUD and the bomb will drop eventually.

Edited November 16, 2022 by QuiGon

[skywalker22]

I press the rep

1 hour ago, QuiGon said:

You aborted too early. The first cue is the pul-up cue, not the release cue. Just keep flying straight and level and keep the pickle button pressed. A second cue will appear on the HUD and the bomb will drop eventually.

 

oh *** damn me  thx. I knew there is something more.

Just one question, but why is then the DLZ showing, that the bomb is in release range after pull-up cue?

[skywalker22]

Time of Pull-up cue and DLZ shows bomb can be dropped

[Moonshine]

well yes it is in range if you use the pull up maneuver..

[skywalker22]

Holding, holding, holding down the pickle button, and this is the time when bomb gets dropped here at DLT zero:

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Why then having a DLZ if it gets dropped at the MIN range, based on DLZ?

Edited November 16, 2022 by skywalker22

[Moonshine]

should be correct as the bottom of the DLZ is the release point for a level drop, everything above that point is a DLZ based on your pull up profile

[_SteelFalcon_]

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CCRP_1 -> Level flight. Pressed WPN release as soon as the pull up cue lines appeared and held it down until the DLZ cue reached the bottom of the DLZ and the Bomb fall line crossed my FPM at the same time. looks fine as far as i can tell.

CCRP_2 ->  level flight, pressed WPN release AFTER the Pull up cues disappeared. Same as above, Bomb fall line crossed my FPM as the DLZ cue reached the bottom of the DLZ.

CCRP_3 -> Pull up delivery with default bomb release parameters. pulled up as soon as the circle started flashing, constant 4.0g to 45° and right then, the Bomb fall line crossed my FPM as it should.

Note, for the toss i startet at 10k ft, the others i flew at 15k ft

 

it works best to toss them if you're fast.

Edited November 16, 2022 by _SteelFalcon_

[skywalker22]

So this is considered "as it suppose to be" then? The only thing that puzzles me here, is why there is the DLZ if it's basically only meant for pull up cuing. One more thing, if in CCRP, why would anyone use a pull up technique specially at a high altitude. CCPR is just not meant to pull up, but to fly in a straight line, and simply drop a bomb.

[Moonshine]

59 minutes ago, skywalker22 said:

CCPR is just not meant to pull up, but to fly in a straight line, and simply drop a bomb.

this is just wrong. it does let you toss the bomb further than you could during a level flight release, which means you might actually survive and egress or not get in range of enemy air defense. it also allows you to lob bombs over mountains, hills or other terrain.

yes it is as it is supposed to be. The DLZ indicates the range for the max pull up all the way to the minimum pull up. the end of the DLZ (bottom line) is the level release.

[skywalker22]

6 hours ago, Moonshine said:

this is just wrong. it does let you toss the bomb further than you could during a level flight release, which means you might actually survive and egress or not get in range of enemy air defense. it also allows you to lob bombs over mountains, hills or other terrain.

yes it is as it is supposed to be. The DLZ indicates the range for the max pull up all the way to the minimum pull up. the end of the DLZ (bottom line) is the level release.

Thanks mate, all what you wrote make sense. Why I was only able to release at the very MIN of DLZ is also, that I was flying very low, at 6k ft. I didn't try, but I will today, to fly very high up. I am pretty sure the time of release will change accordingly on the DLZ (will go towards max range).