HUD Brightness

[bofhlusr]

It looks like the upgrade from 2.7 to 2.8 may have been a 'downgrade' for me in as far as the HUD symbology goes.  I'd like to do 'before and after' tests. How do I remove 2.8 and go back to 2.7 (I don't have a Windows Restore from 2.7 to 2.8). Possible?

My desktop specs: nVidia GTX 1070ti on a Dell 27" 2560x1440 G-Sync monitor (Model S2716DGR at 120 dpi, 144Hz refresh rate), 32 GB RAM, and Win 10 Pro.

At 'Instant Action', 'Free Flight', and Options at High settings; frame rates are 47-53 fps without anti-virus but with VPN on. No add-ons or processes other than a screen capture app, Microsoft Edge and OneNote running on the background. Single player only. Thank you.

[jaylw314]

36 minutes ago, bofhlusr said:

It looks like the upgrade from 2.7 to 2.8 may have been a 'downgrade' for me in as far as the HUD symbology goes.  I'd like to do 'before and after' tests. How do I remove 2.8 and go back to 2.7 (I don't have a Windows Restore from 2.7 to 2.8). Possible?

My desktop specs: nVidia GTX 1070ti on a Dell 27" 2560x1440 G-Sync monitor (Model S2716DGR at 120 dpi, 144Hz refresh rate), 32 GB RAM, and Win 10 Pro.

At 'Instant Action', 'Free Flight', and Options at High settings; frame rates are 47-53 fps without anti-virus but with VPN on. No add-ons or processes other than a screen capture app, Microsoft Edge and OneNote running on the background. Single player only. Thank you.

Hard way - there are DCS updater command line options you can look up

Easy way - SkateZilla's Updater/Launcher GUI

Just to clarify, it sounds like the only people seeing this problem are using a black HUD font mod?  That would have been good to clarify from the outset

Edited January 28, 2023 by jaylw314

[BuzzU]

I hadn't installed the black font when I discovered the default font at full brightness on entering the cockpit. As a matter of fact is was a new install of DCS and all that was installed was the A-10C II with no mods.

So, there was nothing to clarify.

[jaylw314]

20 hours ago, BuzzU said:

I hadn't installed the black font when I discovered the default font at full brightness on entering the cockpit. As a matter of fact is was a new install of DCS and all that was installed was the A-10C II with no mods.

So, there was nothing to clarify.

Well, in retrospect, then, that would have been good to clarify!  

[BuzzU]

Clarify that my install was default?

[jaylw314]

On 1/28/2023 at 4:20 AM, BuzzU said:

I use the black font too and get the same results. It upsets me that the black font changed. It also isn't at full bright when entering the cockpit.

Yes, since this statement makes it unclear

[BuzzU]

Everybody should see the change to the green font if it's like what I had. Nobody has said they do, so I guess it only happened to me. I have no idea why. Even a clean new install and I get the new result.

I made it quite clear before the black font was mentioned Jay. I hadn't installed the black font when I started this thread. Stop looking for something that wasn't there.

[jaylw314]

14 minutes ago, BuzzU said:

Everybody should see the change to the green font if it's like what I had. Nobody has said they do, so I guess it only happened to me. I have no idea why. Even a clean new install and I get the new result.

I made it quite clear before the black font was mentioned Jay. I hadn't installed the black font when I started this thread. Stop looking for something that wasn't there.

I think you summed up the problem nicely there!

[Wrecking Crew]

How to get black font?

[BuzzU]

Go here.

Eagle Dynamics/DCS World Open Beta/Mods/aircraft/A-10C_2/cockpit/scripts/HUD/Indicator/HUD_init

Now, cut and paste the HUD_init file to your desktop. Double click the HUD_init file and scroll all the way to the bottom. You'll see a line day color {0, 255/255, 0, 255/255}

Change it to {0, 0, 0, 255/255}

Save it and cut/paste the HUD_init file back into the Indicator folder.

One more thing when you're doing this. When it asks you if you want to continue. Click the continue button.

When it the cockpit. You're need to brighten up the black font with the iten rocker switch.

Edited January 31, 2023 by BuzzU

[BuzzU]

That's what you have to do for the A-10C II. If you're using the A-10C you can just use this mod. Just drop it in the DCS folder.

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3311809/

[AvgWhiteGuy]

@BuzzU....do you or anybody know what these specific numbers, and the sequence refers to? I've got sh#tty eyes and wouldn't mind playing around to get a darker green color.

Thanks

[razo+r]

3 minutes ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

@BuzzU....do you or anybody know what these specific numbers, and the sequence refers to? I've got sh#tty eyes and wouldn't mind playing around to get a darker green color.

Thanks

Values for RGB (Red, Green, Blue) if that is what you are asking. 

[AvgWhiteGuy]

22 minutes ago, razo+r said:

Values for RGB (Red, Green, Blue) if that is what you are asking. 

If the first 3 values represent R,G,B then a darker green might be {0, 51/255, 0, 255/255}, and I still have no idea what the last series (255/255) represents

[razo+r]

1 hour ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

If the first 3 values represent R,G,B then a darker green might be {0, 51/255, 0, 255/255}, and I still have no idea what the last series (255/255) represents

the last value is for opacity/transparency.

[BuzzU]

The middle number is the color. I know I only change that number when going to black font. Black is 0.

[AvgWhiteGuy]

I played around with this and couldn't get a Dark Blue for daytime, and the Black didn't help me. But I did get a Yellow that surprisingly works well in Day and some may want to try. It definitely was brighter & stronger than the Green for my sh#tty eyes.

Editing that LUA as you instructed and replace that line with "  {255/255, 255/255, 0, 255/255} " did the trick for me.

Cheers,

[jaylw314]

4 hours ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

I played around with this and couldn't get a Dark Blue for daytime, and the Black didn't help me. But I did get a Yellow that surprisingly works well in Day and some may want to try. It definitely was brighter & stronger than the Green for my sh#tty eyes.

Editing that LUA as you instructed and replace that line with "  {255/255, 255/255, 0, 255/255} " did the trick for me.

Cheers,

Flipping the HUD switch to NIGHT should give you an amber that is actually quite bright.  I've heard from a couple people that it's not actually used for night since it's not NVG compatible, but I'm unsure if that's correct.

[ASAP]

3 hours ago, jaylw314 said:

Flipping the HUD switch to NIGHT should give you an amber that is actually quite bright.  I've heard from a couple people that it's not actually used for night since it's not NVG compatible, but I'm unsure if that's correct.

It’s NVG compatible, just doesn’t show up as well from what I heard. The filter is easily damaged by direct sunlight though.

[jaylw314]

3 hours ago, ASAP said:

It’s NVG compatible, just doesn’t show up as well from what I heard. The filter is easily damaged by direct sunlight though.

That's cool, I didn't realize it was just a filter.  The fact that it is BRIGHTER than the green HUD is clearly a DCSism, then  

[ASAP]

28 minutes ago, jaylw314 said:

That's cool, I didn't realize it was just a filter.  The fact that it is BRIGHTER than the green HUD is clearly a DCSism, then  

Yup, It’s literally just a transparent amber piece of glass/plastic that slides in front of the HUD projector. I’d expect it would be dimmer if anything,  but if you’re flying at night you’d also run the HUD intensity down when flying at night. 
 

The only time I’ve used it is if the hud gets really washed out in the clouds during the day.  which probably isn’t realistic 

[AvgWhiteGuy]

@jaylw314 & ASAP, I'll get HUD screenshots of the my Yellow and the existing Amber ( which is RGB (255,102,0)} to post. The Yellow is brighter than both but not overpowering from my perspective and works quite well in Day. 

[jaylw314]

1 hour ago, AvgWhiteGuy said:

@jaylw314 & ASAP, I'll get HUD screenshots of the my Yellow and the existing Amber ( which is RGB (255,102,0)} to post. The Yellow is brighter than both but not overpowering from my perspective and works quite well in Day. 

Oh I believe you, I was just pointing out the NIGHT setting is (ironically) easier to see than the green during the day sometimes, and easier to get without editing anything as an alternative

Edited March 1, 2023 by jaylw314

[BuzzU]

When the day is a little darker or dawn and dusk I use the nighttime yellow. When looking into the sun or clouds I use day time which I have set as black.

Edited March 1, 2023 by BuzzU

[PacFlyer23]

Great tip to changing to black. I was beginning to get a little frustrated trying to see the green HUD in bright sun desert and cloud conditions, even when at max intensity. I just tried these changes; yellow first, but I like the black better. Thanks.