bfr Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 15 hours ago, Zahnatom said: well i hope we're getting JDAMs before the first CTU. i love pre-planned strikes. by the way, can we expect AGM-158s (not the ER version) with the Second CTU? I didn't think we were ever getting JASSM? JSOW is due to come for the SE I think, but I assume that'll be the underwhelming A version like the F16 got.
bfr Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Zahnatom said: like in general for all DCS modules or just this one? Glad to be corrected but I don't recall it ever having been promised for any module? Not even sure if one is planned for AI use.
giullep Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 but then, i think razbam has to let us know something...it seems to me the time has come to give the proper information about the release date...i understand everything, theres a tremendous and ill-calculated hype campaign for the sale...but we at fine, i.e. the users, what fault do we have.. it would be right and correct that now razbam behaved correctly with those who wanted to trust them by paying for the pre-order 1
bfr Posted June 18, 2023 Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Zahnatom said: i have no idea tbh. imo it would just be kind of a neat thing to have. Lockheed Martin declared it operational on the f-15e in 2012 so i guess it could become a thing but probably wont https://news.lockheedmartin.com/2012-07-26-Lockheed-Martin-Completes-JASSM-F-15E-Integration-With-Successful-All-Up-Round-Flight-Test Yeah it'd be nice to have the option given the only comparable weapon I can think of is the SLAM-ER for the Hornet. I think JASSM was mentioned for the Viper but then dropped as being out of timeframe for that Block. On the list for the F-15 SE it didn't feature, so it's more hope than expectation that it will change.
AhSoul Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 4:11 PM, Beirut said: I'm more concerned with the GBU-28. I thought we were going to get some beeg badabooms but I didn't see them listed. For me, this plane is all about deep strike, ultra precision, with big bombs. I don't care if the A2A radar doesn't work. Give me my mega-bombs! I'm watching the latest PACS video and Notso shows the payload options in the editor. I couldn't see the GBU-28 listed at any point 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Soul's pit thread
Beirut Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, AhSoul said: I'm watching the latest PACS video and Notso shows the payload options in the editor. I couldn't see the GBU-28 listed at any point Unacceptable! Hopefully it will be available later. This big plane needs big bombs. Some of the planes, but all of the maps!
bfr Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Beirut said: Unacceptable! Hopefully it will be available later. This big plane needs big bombs. This was a list from a while ago someone posted of what we should eventually get. So yes, the GBU-28 is apparently planned. It did sort-of get mentioned in that latest video. AhSoul was right that it doesn't show in the DCS payload editor lists but it is referenced in the loadout MFD at around 20:02 in the video. So at least further reassurance that it should turn up eventually. Edited June 20, 2023 by bfr 1
thefusion Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 You have had our money for 4 months now. Release the plane already 2
Snappy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, thefusion said: You have had our money for 4 months now. Release the plane already It was your own choice to hand over your money early, without even an announced release date , so… Edited June 21, 2023 by Snappy 2
supersylph Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 As July approaches, I think it's time they announced a specific date
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 21, 2023 ED Team Posted June 21, 2023 4 hours ago, thefusion said: You have had our money for 4 months now. Release the plane already Thank you for using the pre purchase, it supports the dev team and you get some nice extra discount. When we are ready to we will give a date and let everyone know, internal testing is going well, so hopefully we can share news soon about early access. edit: threads merged 3 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
pete_auau Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, supersylph said: As July approaches, I think it's time they announced a specific date And what do you think what will happen if they did that and they hold of the release due to some other issues 1
CowanSim Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 6 hours ago, thefusion said: You have had our money for 4 months now. Release the plane already Your choice to give Razbam money in the first place Gone are the days of releasing content then asking people to buy it. Now it's all buy before you try lol Can you cancel a pre-order? 1
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 21, 2023 ED Team Posted June 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jagger303 said: Your choice to give Razbam money in the first place Gone are the days of releasing content then asking people to buy it. Now it's all buy before you try lol Can you cancel a pre-order? contact support directly. Note 30% discount is for pre-order, Early access is 20% discount. If a long pre-order is not something you like we totally understand, and we will share news as soon as we can. For everyone who has pre-ordered we appreciate it, you are supporting the development and without you it would not be possible. thank you 3 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
CowanSim Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: contact support directly. Note 30% discount is for pre-order, Early access is 20% discount. If a long pre-order is not something you like we totally understand, and we will share news as soon as we can. For everyone who has pre-ordered we appreciate it, you are supporting the development and without you it would not be possible. thank you Thanks Newy for the reply, The discount is nice however we have already seen evidence that this is not required for other teams / devs. Release a product and get paid is normally how business works no? EA is a discussion that can go back and forth for the rest of time. Can you cancel a pre-order without contacting support? and why is this not possible to do so? just seems another hindrance to user experience Thanks
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 21, 2023 ED Team Posted June 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jagger303 said: Thanks Newy for the reply, The discount is nice however we have already seen evidence that this is not required for other teams / devs. Release a product and get paid is normally how business works no? EA is a discussion that can go back and forth for the rest of time. Can you cancel a pre-order without contacting support? and why is this not possible to do so? just seems another hindrance to user experience Thanks If you have made the purchase of the pre-order contacting support is your best option regarding refunds, it is not a discussion for here. Pre-order / early access are optional, you do not need to participate, if you do you are supporting the dev team and it is appreciated. I dont want to have a back and forth here in this thread so if you need to please PM me thank you 2 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
AhSoul Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) Would people here genuinely prefer to wait another 2 years (or whatever) for the Eagle to be completely done and feature complete before it's made available to buy and play with? I'm pretty sure I prefer getting it earlier, at a discount, and having features etc. get added over time..... Edit. From the other thread I guess some people would prefer to wait. But that's fine. Wait or don't we all have the ability to make our own choice Quote Want a feature complete module without the hassle of having systems change or be added - skip EA and wait. Want to get it earlier and don't mind the change - get it in EA. No-one is forced down either path, just pick the one you are most comfortable with...... Edited June 21, 2023 by AhSoul 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Soul's pit thread
CowanSim Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, AhSoul said: Would people here genuinely prefer to wait another 2 years (or whatever) for the Eagle to be completely done and feature complete before it's made available to buy and play with? I'm pretty sure I prefer getting it earlier, at a discount, and having features etc. get added over time..... Edit. From the other thread I guess some people would prefer to wait. But that's fine. Wait or don't we all have the ability to make our own choice It's a catch 22 issue... It really depends on the quality a module is released into EA. But before all this EA you had no choice but to wait... the simple good old days. People have the ability to make decisions of there own so yeah EA was born out of peoples greed
icebearbear Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 @BIGNEWY I support pre-orders and delays but please don't over-hype, you gave me hope but hope turned to disappointment after a few weeks, it will inevitably anger, thank you BIGNEWY.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 21, 2023 ED Team Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, icebearbear said: @BIGNEWY I support pre-orders and delays but please don't over-hype, you gave me hope but hope turned to disappointment after a few weeks, it will inevitably anger, thank you BIGNEWY. We appreciate the support and the patience. We have also learned that we should only release once everything is ready and the best it can be for you all to enjoy. Hopefully we can give you more news soon. thank you. 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Fromthedeep Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, AhSoul said: Would people here genuinely prefer to wait another 2 years (or whatever) for the Eagle to be completely done and feature complete before it's made available to buy and play with? 2 years? Absolutely. It wouldn't be 2 years though, it would be over 6 or even more as evidenced by all the other modules in DCS. That's not the problem. The issue is that Razbam has taken longer to release the Strike Eagle than it took McAir to make the real Strike Eagle.
TheGuardian Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: We appreciate the support and the patience. We have also learned that we should only release once everything is ready and the best it can be for you all to enjoy. Hopefully we can give you more news soon. thank you. Glad ya'll learned something, no one wants another F-16 release. We just want updates on items we have already paid for. EA or not is not the problem. Be nice if ya'll could learn to communicate with more than "Appreciation, Hopefully and Soon." 1
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 21, 2023 ED Team Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, TheGuardian said: Glad ya'll learned something, no one wants another F-16 release. We just want updates on items we have already paid for. EA or not is not the problem. Be nice if ya'll could learn to communicate with more than "Appreciation, Hopefully and Soon." We communicate when we have information to share, and when we can. As soon as we do have a date we will let you all know. thank you 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
bfr Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, Jagger303 said: It's a catch 22 issue... It really depends on the quality a module is released into EA. But before all this EA you had no choice but to wait... the simple good old days. People have the ability to make decisions of there own so yeah EA was born out of peoples greed Not really greed. It would be a huge challenge to finance a dev team for the time it would take with no income until the product was deemed pretty much done. I assume at least some modules we have now simply wouldn't exist without the EA & pre-sales model. 1
pete_auau Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Jagger303 said: Your choice to give Razbam money in the first place Gone are the days of releasing content then asking people to buy it. Now it's all buy before you try lol Can you cancel a pre-order? so you want to cancel and later on re purchase again ?
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