hitman Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Using the system in my specs (-1 GTX260 for rma), I did a test run of LOFC using the A-10 Trackir Demo and the F-15 Trackir demo, with a small flyover over Sevastopol in Su-33. I was astonished! My settings are all maxed out, 16xAA, 8xAF, all goodies turned on. The A-10 demo never bottomed out under 45fps and frequently was exceeding 120fps, especially when the wingie was firing over a nice wooded area. Ill post some screenshots after I mod everything, but I was using SimMods A-10 for the trial. The F-15 demo never bottomed out past 90fps. The Su-33 Sevastopol flight never bottomed out past 34fps. Im going to be testing more and more as I get more mods installed, but coming from a Q6600 o/c to 3.2ghz to an i7 with no overclocking (yet) is dramatic to say the least. I will give Black Shark a run sometime tonight. :D Screenies to follow. 1
Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Do you have a LCD monitor? If so, what good is anything over 60 fps?
hitman Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 Yes I have an LCD, and whats good about anything less than 60 fps? 1
104th_Crunch Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 "The Su-33 Sevastopol flight never bottomed out past 34fps." Finally a system that can run everything maxed out over a city and get over 30fps. Someday, near the year 2020, there will be a PC that can do 60+fps :music_whistling: Nice work and very interesting. Look forward to further testing thanks.
Pfadfinder Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 What was your previous system? The answer is in his first post ...coming from a Q6600 o/c to 3.2ghz to an i7... Lt. Jake Grafton: "Fighter pukes make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY!"
RedTiger Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 "The Su-33 Sevastopol flight never bottomed out past 34fps." Finally a system that can run everything maxed out over a city and get over 30fps. Someday, near the year 2020, there will be a PC that can do 60+fps :music_whistling: Nice work and very interesting. Look forward to further testing thanks. I was thinking the same thing. It is flabbergasting at how much horsepower and how much time it has taken for this. For the REAL test...take off from Krasnodar. :joystick: That one's the REAL killer, IMO.
hitman Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 Funny you mention that, because I did just that a few minutes ago. Everything maxed out, with these mods installed: Res: 1680x1050, 16xAA, 8xAF From A-10 Quickstart: Simferopol
RedTiger Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Jesus H Christ...I'm assuming those lower FPS screenies are from Krasnodar? LOMAC is a lost cause when it comes to this. "Oh, I'm sorry, I just wanted to run it with everything maxed in a reasonable sized mission flying over a city that's actually a normal size. Silly me!" I'd like to see what exactly it would take to run it at 30 FPS constantly in every conceivable mission and location. By the time that hardware is around, LOMAC won't even install and play correctly on the OS we'll be running. :noexpression: I'm looking at your build and looking at mine and wondering at what point should one should just decide to turn the water down to medium or turn off AA rather than spending hundreds of dollars. The diminishing returns at this point are insane.
hitman Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 My values are highly tweaked to my preferences. Mind you I had a few dozen units placed on the map to get a fairly accurate fps rate for missions around this part of the map. No mods installed and at high settings, I had about 30fps, I just disdain pop up buildings and trees. :D
hitman Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 Picked up something intersting today... On single core (affinity 1) All cores selected (1-8 ) It was actually running on all 8 cores!!! It topped out at 60fps during this mission on 159th server this morning. Im sure it could have went higher if I turned vertical sync off. Lowest fps was at 24 (16 on single core). All settings maxed with mirrors, near a city, in inclement weather, during a combat excersize. This new system is killer! :D
hitman Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 Vista x86. Dont know if I want to go through the hassle of installing Win7 at the moment.
Pilotasso Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) 2 corrections: 1) I7 has 4 cores with hyperthreading, Not the same thing (you better off using 2 seperate cores than 2 threads on the same core) ;) 2) if you look closely your task manager graphs in any given point in time (use the middle of the scale for refference for example) BS copy is using only 2 threads. It just hapens it keeps jumping them from core to core hence the reason you see spikes on all 8 "CPU's". The easiest way to spot multi threads is to watch more than 1 core reach a stable horizontal line (aprox, with small spikes) for a sustained period of time in load. Each thread can max or not each CPU depending on how heavy they are. Another way is to watch your total CPU load %. Each full core takes 50% of the total on a dual, 25% on Quad or 12.5% on your 8 threaded I7. Its not what is hapening on your picture. it says 15%, wich is barely above the 12.5%. So what is hapening is that, at the most BS is taking 1 full core load plus a little load on another core (or thread). Edited January 29, 2009 by Pilotasso .
PoleCat Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) AFAIK gains on the i7 platform are huge in applications but not so much with curent games/sims. These results are excellent! I wonder how much faster this system really is than say an E8600@ 4Ghz. From what I have read at TH where games are concerned there is little to no advantage in the newer platfrom for most current and past titles. Of course down the road the better architecture and true multiple core design will win out. When I am ready to buy a new system I will definitely be going with the i7 platform as it is the future. I know when I went from a Q6600 to the E8600 there was a dramatic improvement in performance. Very dramatic. Hitman could you possibly post up the title of an included stock mission in Black Shark that you use for testing along with your setings and FPS results? I would like to compare my results on the same mission and settings. Maybe I want one of these platforms and I do not even know it yet. ;) If there is a very pronounced difference I may just get one sooner rather then later, if not i will wait for the prices to settle more. Thanks for posting on this...very interesting. Out Edited January 29, 2009 by PoleCat http://www.104thphoenix.com/
hitman Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) 2 corrections: 1) I7 has 4 cores with hyperthreading, Not the same thing (you better off using 2 seperate cores than 2 threads on the same core) ;) Still running on all 8 cores :D 2) if you look closely your task manager graphs in any given point in time (use the middle of the scale for refference for example) BS copy is using only 2 threads. It just hapens it keeps jumping them from core to core hence the reason you see spikes on all 8 "CPU's". The easiest way to spot multi threads is to watch more than 1 core reach a stable horizontal line (aprox, with small spikes) for a sustained period of time in load. Each thread can max or not each CPU depending on how heavy they are. Another way is to watch your total CPU load %. Each full core takes 50% of the total on a dual, 25% on Quad or 12.5% on your 8 threaded I7. Its not what is hapening on your picture. it says 15%, wich is barely above the 12.5%. So what is hapening is that, at the most BS is taking 1 full core load plus a little load on another core (or thread). All the multithreaded games Ive seen do the same thing. Granted, I know that this game isnt optimized for multithreaded, but look! 15% in Black Shark under a load. If I had another video card and a separate monitor (and 2 more hard drives), I could play crysis on top of Black Shark. :D I used a video replay for the first 2 screenshots, and the 159th current mission. Ill test it on 2 cores instead of all 8 today, just to see what kind of results would come. Edited January 29, 2009 by hitman
Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Yes I have an LCD, and whats good about anything less than 60 fps? LOL. I guess you missed my point. LCD monitors usually have a refresh rate of 60 hz. This means the maximum FPS you will get is 60 fps, even if your computer and graphics card is spitting out 120.
hitman Posted January 30, 2009 Author Posted January 30, 2009 Ok...I tested it with 1 core, 2 cores, and 8 cores simultaneously. 1 core got 32fps average, 2 cores got between 52-60 on average, and 8 cores got between 58-60 on average. I need to find a better file hosting site... http://uploads.bizhat.com/file/379395 Contains a track of the mission I tried on testing tonight. Graphics maxed out, 16xAF, 8xAA, 1680x1050, MFD resolution set at 512 bit. LOL. I guess you missed my point. LCD monitors usually have a refresh rate of 60 hz. This means the maximum FPS you will get is 60 fps' date=' even if your computer and graphics card is spitting out 120.[/quote'] I didnt know this...my bad :D
159th_Viper Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 I didnt know this...my bad :D Myself :D I was pulling my hair out wondering why I was capped at 60.......:music_whistling: Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Frostie Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 LOL. I guess you missed my point. LCD monitors usually have a refresh rate of 60 hz. This means the maximum FPS you will get is 60 fps' date=' even if your computer and graphics card is spitting out 120.[/quote'] They should make this post a sticky. :D 1 "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
104th_Crunch Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 ...I need to find a better file hosting site... www.mediafire.com
Vekkinho Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 There's some interesting reading in this thread 4 sure, I'm also fishing for a new rig and lately i7 seems a best buy, I'm just waiting for the prices to calm down. I looked at hitman's MoDman Screenshot and I noticed a "3D model MiG-29" by Mizzy! Is it really a 3D model or just skins?! 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
hitman Posted January 31, 2009 Author Posted January 31, 2009 You looked at it wrong...I have a new missile trail by 3GO and MiG-29 skins from Mizzy.
Francous Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 Well i have a E8500 OC to 4.1 GHZ and the i7 is not my replacement yet.. I have better results . The next generation of i7 should be much better so lets wait a bit .
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