solved 2.8.2. crash only when Streaming or Recording

[paura19]

Hi,

I got whole new computer, clean install win11 and DCS OB 2.8.2.35799.

I had little problem. When I streaming or recording game crash after 2-10 mins. It happened in singleplayer and multiplayer, I use OBS Studio and NVIDIA Shadow. Game is crashing in both programs.

Here is crash log with Spitfire mission. If I play without streaming or recording it is fine.  Probably some software is missing in the PC. I can't read crash logs to help myself 
dcs.log-20230225-160700.zipdcs.log-20230225-163731.zip

Also I am using Tacview 1.8.8. 

Thank You.

[Flappie]

Hi. You have the DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED issue.

2023-02-25 16:06:59.750 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (Main): DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2023-02-25 16:06:59.764 WARNING DX11BACKEND (Main): Can't map structured buffer.
2023-02-25 16:06:59.764 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (Main): Failed assert `0` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11StructuredBuffer.cpp:100
2023-02-25 16:06:59.767 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (Main): DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2023-02-25 16:06:59.769 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (Main): failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2023-02-25 16:06:59.769 ERROR   DX11BACKEND (Main): CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2023-02-25 16:06:59.769 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2023-02-25 16:06:59.770 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20230225-160700 --------------
2023-02-25 16:06:59.770 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.2.35759 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.22621)
2023-02-25 16:06:59.771 INFO    EDCORE (Main): C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2023-02-25 16:06:59.771 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007FFCBAE059B5 00:00000000
2023-02-25 16:06:59.772 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;H:\DCS World\DCS World OpenBeta;H:\DCS World\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'Indigo'
2023-02-25 16:06:59.772 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22621 () 0x100-0x1
2023-02-25 16:06:59.783 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001059B5 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x10CF5
2023-02-25 16:06:59.784 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000002D501 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x15B91
2023-02-25 16:06:59.784 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000079FAB (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x65BDB
2023-02-25 16:06:59.784 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000CEA5C (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x37AEC
2023-02-25 16:06:59.784 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000CA901 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x33991
2023-02-25 16:06:59.784 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000CBD3E (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x34DCE
2023-02-25 16:06:59.784 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000002D1B8 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x598
2023-02-25 16:06:59.784 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000213D7 (edCore): ed::make_main_thread_tasks + 0x17
2023-02-25 16:06:59.785 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000086022E (DCS): SW + 0x3F46BE
2023-02-25 16:06:59.785 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000081F414 (DCS): SW + 0x3B38A4
2023-02-25 16:06:59.785 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000008202F4 (DCS): SW + 0x3B4784
2023-02-25 16:06:59.785 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022EE5EF (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF8B5EB
2023-02-25 16:06:59.785 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000C14F72 (DCS): SW + 0x7A9402
2023-02-25 16:06:59.785 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000126BD (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D
2023-02-25 16:06:59.785 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000005DFB8 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x28
2023-02-25 16:06:59.872 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.

 

Here are the most common causes:

1. Windows power plan is saving energy while playing (ensure it's default power plan at least - not "eco" or anything like it)
2. GPU driver is faulty (you can try uninstall/reinstall it - you can even use DDU to make sure it's fully uninstalled)
3. GPU is overclocked too much (turn off MSI Afterburner if you have it, or in NVIDIA control panel, enable Debug Mode in Help menu)
4. RAM is overclocked too much
5. PSU is faulty or not strong enough
6. GPU is faulty
7. CPU is clogged with dust
8. ASUS GPU Tweak is playing you tricks
9. Aorus Graphics Engine is enabled
10. G-Sync Windowd/Fullscreen settings and DCS Windows/Fullscreen settings are not happy with each other

[paura19]

Hmmm, thank you.
That is a lot of causes.

It's strange that happen only in "recording mode".

[corn322]

2 hours ago, paura19 said:

OBS Studio and NVIDIA Shadow

At the same time? Also, what are the specs on your new computer?

[paura19]

@corn322
MSI RTX4080 Suprime X (OC)
i7 13700KF 5,4 not boosted
ASUS B760 F
RAM G.Skill DDR5 64GB 6000 CL30
Disk1 M2 Kingstom Renegate 2T 7300
Disk2 M2 Patriot P400 2T
AIO AIO Lian Li Galahad 360
PSU Corsair RM1000e
12VHPWR Corsiar

[paura19]

@Flappie

I am not successful, I will keep trying

1. Windows power plan is saving energy while playing  -> checked, everything 100%
2. GPU driver is faulty 
3. GPU is overclocked too much -> default OC by cars -> applying downgrade -200Mhz
4. RAM is overclocked too much 
5. PSU is faulty or not strong enough -> 1000W, in Cyberpunk card took 330W, in this DCS mission card had +-270W
6. GPU is faulty
7. CPU is clogged with dust ->brand new PC
8. ASUS GPU Tweak is playing you tricks 
9. Aorus Graphics Engine is enabled
10. G-Sync Windowd/Fullscreen settings and DCS Windows/Fullscreen settings are not happy with each other -> DCS Fullscreen -> disable GSync
    
    Also I disabled standard Pagefile

[Flappie]

Quote

Also I disabled standard Pagefile

Don't. Leave it to Windows default.

[paura19]

Last crashlog.

dcs.log-20230225-200619.zip

[Flappie]

Still the same error.

Disable Nvidia Shadow and see if OBS alone causes DCS to crash:

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4228/~/disabling-the-geforce-experience-share-in-game-overlay

[silverdevil]

2023-02-25 19:58:36.806 INFO    APP (Main): CPU cores: 16, threads: 24, System RAM: 65345 MB, Pagefile: 0 MB

[Flappie]

Yes, he's just disabled WIndows pagefile, which is not a good idea, but the crashes started with default 4096 MB pagefile (64 GB RAM PC, pagefile does not need to be huge).

[paura19]

On It!
Pagefile return to standard windows value.

I tried lower recording resolution and different NVIDIA color settings. But it doesn't matter if it's recording FHD or 4K.

[paura19]

Disabled NVIDIA shadow - still game crashed with OBS.
Last thing is lower RAM speed.

 

dcs.log-20230225-205428.zip

[paura19]

With lower speed DDR5 RAM - auto mod 4800. It took game to crash 3x more time then before. 
 I don't have ASUS GPU tweak
 

dcs.log-20230225-211958.zip

[Flappie]

I don't have any more idea related to the "DXGI..." usual remedies at this point. Let's try other things:

• DCS repair in "slow" mode.
• Rename your "Saved Games/DCS..." folder (do NOT delete it, you'll need it back).
• Ensure you're not running DCS as Administrator (DCS.exe properties).
• Ensure you're not running DCS in Compatibility mode (DCS.exe properties).
• Ensure "Disable fullscreen optimization" is not ticked (DCS.exe properties).

[paura19]

OK 
I flew mission without recording with my default PC setting. Game is fine. 
Something is wrong with the recording.

[Flappie]

The DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED message means DCS is unable to communicate with the GPU. Maybe it's too busy working for OBS, but that would be strange.

Please open a support ticket. Log into DCS website, click "Support", then "Create a new ticket".

Edited February 25, 2023 by Flappie

[paura19]

Thank You Flappie

Here is MSI monitor when game crash

[corn322]

Looks like VID spikes when it crashes?

"VID usage is tied to the built-in hardware H.264 encoder found on GTX6xx and higher cards. "

- https://superuser.com/questions/523354/what-is-fb-and-vid-usage-in-asus-gpu-tweak

[paura19]

Yeah, Game crash when VID usage drop to 0% or when pops up from 82 to 100%. It's sudden. (straight flying, center view)

Edited February 26, 2023 by paura19

[paura19]

So I tried different setting of game and OBS.

Match game FPS to 60 (before 70), OBS 60fps (before 48) as well.
Now game is steady 60 most of time. 3x times( 15min mission) in hard scene in rain with sun... game drop to 55fps. -> This fps drop GPU want manage with 98% usage. But VID is steady, power is steady. Then GPU usage return to 92-94% with lock 60fps.
Crash didn't happened.

Without lock fps lock, this PC could run 4K in Channel around 110fps in high altitude (MSAA4 + SSAA 1.5).

I will try other missions on other theatres.

[paura19]

Like @Dos I uninstalled the MSI Afterburner and no crash since then. Stream took 1,5h  no crash.
I uninstalled the MSI Afterburner and no crash since then. Stream took 1,5h  no crash.
Even fps were below lock, 60-50fps.

maybe that's it. 
Thank You corn52 and Flappie.

 

[Flappie]

Great! Thanks for your feedback. Come back here in case crashes reappear.

[corn322]

13 hours ago, paura19 said:

hard scene in rain with sun... game drop to 55fps. -> This fps drop GPU want manage with 98% usage. But VID is steady, power is steady. Then GPU usage return to 92-94% with lock 60fps

I wonder if this would have crashed the game if it wasn't locked at 60fps. My next question would be to use Afterburner to limit the power limit to 75% and see if it still crashed. But you've removed it and the crash went away.

[paura19]

18 hours ago, corn322 said:

I wonder if this would have crashed the game if it wasn't locked at 60fps. My next question would be to use Afterburner to limit the power limit to 75% and see if it still crashed. But you've removed it and the crash went away.

Ehm the crash didn't go away eventually. 
In sunday afternoon I got back with 70fps lock and mission crashed. I refly mission with 60fps lock and mission went fine.
So MSI Afterburner maybe weren't the cause.