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Hello, seems like the latest update brought some changes to the FLIR rendering of some ground units. That said, playing withe M1A2, the thermal camera seems to be quite unusable.

Looking towards terrain, everything appears to be extremely dark with no heat signature. This issue, combined with the issue where units are dead cold on mission start, regardless ME settings makes the thermals sub-optimal.

I tried shooting the gun, machine guns and spin in circles on sped up time and even then, the MBT barely radiates any heat to be seen on thermal (looking at own tank and others)

I compared the FLIR view to the Apache default TADS settings and the differences is substantial.

If you command the vehicles to start rolling with a waypoint at the start of the mission, they signature changes dramatically (even though, they still start in a stationary position). I guess this is a different bug that is already know.

That said, even when the mission is set up in such a way and vehicles do have normal signatures, the thermal view settings on vehicles are not effective.

Images below are the same, one with FLIR one, without.

Seems like there is a third additional bug, where when you use the thermal sight in Isometric view. You get a sight overlay on top, limiting your view (the sight from the third photo is applied when in isometric thermals).

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Posted (edited)

Yup. 

 

This doesn't look right. It's entirely too dark. Would also be nice if ground units could adjust their thermal settings (contrast/brightness) like air units.

 

Old anullnd new thermal photos added.

OLD - looked great.

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New - too dark. 

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6 hours ago, Apocalypse31 said:

 

Would also be nice if ground units could adjust their thermal settings (contrast/brightness) like air units.

 

But you can. Check controls for the IR gain and IR level controls

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Might be worth looking into FLIR as a whole. I don't use combined arms but after the last major update some FLIR images seem darker. The difference between cold and hot is just not there and is looking alot like CCD rather than FLIR.

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On 3/11/2023 at 8:21 AM, Apocalypse31 said:

Yup. 

 

This doesn't look right. It's entirely too dark. Would also be nice if ground units could adjust their thermal settings (contrast/brightness) like air units.

 

Old anullnd new thermal photos added.

OLD - looked great.

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New - too dark. 

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Looks like the default gain levels are off, I need to try a few units and see if it's consistent and then I will report. 

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12 hours ago, NineLine said:

Looks like the default gain levels are off, I need to try a few units and see if it's consistent and then I will report. 

It's not just the default gain. Units aren't showing proper thermal signatures either. Way too dark. 

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4 hours ago, Apocalypse31 said:

It's not just the default gain. Units aren't showing proper thermal signatures either. Way too dark. 

The gains issue is fixed internally, as far as units showing too dark I would wait until the Hot vs Cold start issues fix releases next patch (hopefully) which should address some of that as well.

 

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47 minutes ago, NineLine said:

The gains issue is fixed internally, as far as units showing too dark I would wait until the Hot vs Cold start issues fix releases next patch (hopefully) which should address some of that as well.

 

Thanks for your efforts!

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Posted (edited)

I posted this in the Combined Arms forums but no one reads those any longer. 

 

Thermals are currently worthless in game. null

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And I'm not sure what happened to binocular thermals either...

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I'm having the same problem in my F-16 C.  When I use the Targeting Pod to try to find enemy vehicles, I have to put it in Active Pause to even have a chance at locating them and I have to be very close.  For those not familiar, look at the left display I am focused on.

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