FADM Stern GNSF Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Through discussions on the board, I know that the Laser is good for so many uses and then it burns out (pretty sure thats accurate from what I have read). I also read that the ground crew will repair damage to the Ka-50 which takes about 3 min. Does anyone know if the Laser is repaired/replaced by the ground crew, and if so, how long does it take. I did some testing and found I got off 45 shots before it died. I then landed at the airport and completely shut down the chopper. I waited 5 min (used a stop watch) and then powered up the plane. I then waited 5 more min (for INU to align). Well the INU seemed to be ok, as the auto pilots seemed to work, but the laser stayed dead. are there limits to what does and doesnt get repaired (damaged rotor blade for example) ? I may be doing something wrong, but from all I have tired, once your blades and/or laser are dead, thats it for that mission. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all Try the Rest, then Join the Best
Dusty Rhodes Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Good question as this is becoming a hot topic. Can't wait to hear the answer on this one. Might be something we look forward to in the patch if possible. Dusty Rhodes Play HARD, Play FAIR, Play TO WIN Win 7 Professional 64 Bit / Intel i7 4790 Devils Canyon, 4.0 GIG /ASUS Maximus VII Formula Motherboard/ ASUS GTX 1080 8 GB/ 32 Gigs of RAM / Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog / TrackIR 5 / 2 Cougar MFD's / Saitek Combat Pedals/ DSD Button Box FLT-1
REL Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 I also read that the ground crew will repair damage to the Ka-50 which takes about 3 min. Thanks all really ???
arneh Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 I then landed at the airport and completely shut down the chopper. I waited 5 min (used a stop watch) and then powered up the plane. I then waited 5 more min (for INU to align). Well the INU seemed to be ok, as the auto pilots seemed to work, but the laser stayed dead. are there limits to what does and doesnt get repaired (damaged rotor blade for example) ? I've only repaired once. But then it took about ten minutes. I did shut down the engines, but left the electrics turned on (I requested ground power), including the ABRIS. It was really obvious when the repairs were done. It looks pretty much like you suddenly just got a new helicopter. The screen froze for a little while (might have gone black for a moment too), the helicopter jumped a little on the suspension (like it does when you first enter the cockpit), and it was suddenly completly shut down, including the electrics.
HansRoaming Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Seems a bit short lived for a laser to burn out so quick.
Ramstein Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 My Laser just went bad while flying a short mission... I only reloaded 2x and then my laser went kaput. Nothing I could do would fix it... had to ruin my score and get a new helo. Is the laser problem finally an acknlowledged Bug? I hope so,, it's just plain broken... it only works when it feels like it.. and can't know how long it lasts until it breaks with no warning.. Whichever laser is breaking. The distance laser or targeting laser.. in any case, it's a Bug.. IMHO :( ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI (trying to hang on for a bit longer) 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR
eV1Te Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 I have never noticed that my Laser have been damaged in any way (except when one have been shot at or made a hard landing without landing gear etc.) , under what circumstances have yours been destroyed/damaged?
Ramstein Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 I have never noticed that my Laser have been damaged in any way (except when one have been shot at or made a hard landing without landing gear etc.) , under what circumstances have yours been destroyed/damaged? it freaking stops working... and then you can't use those weapons.. :doh: ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI (trying to hang on for a bit longer) 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR
eV1Te Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 it freaking stops working... and then you can't use those weapons.. :doh: After how long time of usage does this happen? After 24+ Vihkrs and more than an hour of additional range finding have never altered the operation of the Laser for me...
Slayer Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 In my experience the groundcrew doesnt actually "fix" it, you must wait the 3 minutes for a new chopper. You can tell you got a new chopper because there is a quick pause and bam your in a new heli with all the switches set to defaults(cold and dark) If you do a rearm or refuel it won't be fixed. Also I'm pretty sure you have to be close enough to get the new chopper...If you try communications with the ground crew and get no reply then maybee it won't give you a new heli? Just guessing on this one... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System Specs Intel I7-3930K, Asrock EXTREME9, EVGA TITAN, Mushkin Chronos SSD, 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Z series 2133, TM Warthog and MFD's, Saitek Proflight Combat pedals, TrackIR 5 + TrackClip PRO, Windows 7 x64, 3-Asus VS2248H-P monitors, Thermaltake Level 10 GT, Obutto cockpit
Rhino4 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 My Laser just went bad while flying a short mission...Nothing I could do would fix it...it's just plain broken... it only works when it feels like it.. and can't know how long it lasts until it breaks with no warning.. Whichever laser is breaking. The distance laser or targeting laser... The way you describe this sounds eerily like something you would encounter in RL. I wonder if the guys who fly this for real encounter this problem. In that case, maybe it's not a bug but a feature, lol!:megalol:
Ali Fish Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) something tells me the bug list is getting bigger and bigger. Its funny, we cant decide whats russian technology or just bugged lol.or dare i say it "both" ,just kiddin. not a good combo though for my understandings.... Edited February 16, 2009 by Ali Fish [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Dusty Rhodes Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I was actually thinking the same thing. Bug or Russian Techno. I wish a ED guru could come in and give us some idea of the lasers life of usefullness so we could put this to bed. Dusty Rhodes Play HARD, Play FAIR, Play TO WIN Win 7 Professional 64 Bit / Intel i7 4790 Devils Canyon, 4.0 GIG /ASUS Maximus VII Formula Motherboard/ ASUS GTX 1080 8 GB/ 32 Gigs of RAM / Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog / TrackIR 5 / 2 Cougar MFD's / Saitek Combat Pedals/ DSD Button Box FLT-1
Slayer Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I was actually thinking the same thing. Bug or Russian Techno. I wish a ED guru could come in and give us some idea of the lasers life of usefullness so we could put this to bed. They already answered this in the problems and bugs forum, theres already 2 threads on this in there :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] System Specs Intel I7-3930K, Asrock EXTREME9, EVGA TITAN, Mushkin Chronos SSD, 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Z series 2133, TM Warthog and MFD's, Saitek Proflight Combat pedals, TrackIR 5 + TrackClip PRO, Windows 7 x64, 3-Asus VS2248H-P monitors, Thermaltake Level 10 GT, Obutto cockpit
McVittees Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I tried shutting down and waiting at a FARP for three minutes and i did not get a new helicopter and it did not fix my laser. Perhaps it is because I had no battle damage and had already landed for re-arming. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Great minds think alike; idiots seldom differ.":pilotfly: i5 3750K@4.3Ghz, MSI Z77A GD55, 8GB DDR3, Palit GTX 670, 24" Benq@1920*1080, X52 Pro, Win 7 64bit.
beczl Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=35496&page=8 Laser rangefinder has limitations: 5 series with intervals of 30 minutes; 16 cycles of 10 seconds with intervals of 5 seconds in each serie. You may be not following these rules in your flights (and make more range counts than it is possible) and this will result in not working rangefinder. Not a bug but a feature. 1
Ali Fish Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 wow. is this documented in the manual ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
beczl Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 wow. is this documented in the manual ? As I know not yet.
HansRoaming Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Laser rangefinder has limitations: 5 series with intervals of 30 minutes; 16 cycles of 10 seconds with intervals of 5 seconds in each serie. You may be not following these rules in your flights (and make more range counts than it is possible) and this will result in not working rangefinder. Not a bug but a feature. Sounds like they need an overclockers heat sink bolted to it :) Seriously though am surprised a heat sensor with a warning light wasn't built into the avionics system.
Feuerfalke Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Maybe without the RWR the designers thought: "No need for an overheat-warning - it will be shot down before burning out the laser anyway." :angel: MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
Ali Fish Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 i must be bold and say "this is one feature i would like removed". i understand the realism 101% thing but. i just cant be bothered thinking about this next to the rest of the workload required. just my opinion. a more scalable easy/hard setting is really what im after tbh. id love to have easy/hard settings for each independant system within this chopper. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
-sulan- Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I tried shutting down and waiting at a FARP for three minutes and i did not get a new helicopter and it did not fix my laser. Perhaps it is because I had no battle damage and had already landed for re-arming. Says in the GUI manual that the FARP needs to have certain vehicles for different "services", an SKP-11 for comm's for instance, a fuel truck for fuel etc.. I don't remember what is needed at the FARP for repairs though...
Dusty Rhodes Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=35496&page=8 There we have the answer. Thanks so much for bringing that back up. I am certainly going to be more careful now, especially in big battles. Dusty Rhodes Play HARD, Play FAIR, Play TO WIN Win 7 Professional 64 Bit / Intel i7 4790 Devils Canyon, 4.0 GIG /ASUS Maximus VII Formula Motherboard/ ASUS GTX 1080 8 GB/ 32 Gigs of RAM / Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog / TrackIR 5 / 2 Cougar MFD's / Saitek Combat Pedals/ DSD Button Box FLT-1
FADM Stern GNSF Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 As indicated, the Laser "breaking" is NOT a bug, but a fact of life. Thanks for the inout about the "chopper change" as I DID do a rearm and maybe thats why you dont get a new one (since you ask for rearm they figure you want to keep THAT one). I will try this again, as I never had any luck with the repairs :-) As for the Laser, I find it died at about 35 rangings, which sure does fall outside of the recommended cycle time. This is not a big, since the "repair" (or new chooper) will basically give you a new laser :-) As for the FARP, YES, there is a MINIMUM list of equipment that MUST be at the FARP to allow rearming/refuel and repair. There is also a radius that these must be in for it to work (max 150 m from FARP center). Its listed in the manual at page 361 (Ground Equipment Requirements) Thanks all for the help, you guys make learning this a whole lot easier :-) Try the Rest, then Join the Best
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