Introducing Meta Quest 3

[Peedee]

3 hours ago, dutchili said:

Yes and now. I think your Pico does a better job a filling in the missing frames. As missing frames are also visible  in 2d
(with missing frame is mean: the ground not being updated at the intended refresh rate)

 

Not sure what you mean by filling in missing frames. With the Pico 4 at 72hz I don’t use any reprojection /ASW - so that means if I don’t get 72 fps then it’s visible as stutters. But it is silky smooth with 72 “real frames”, no ASW in use. 
So I guess it’s about lowering your settings a bit and try for 72 fps and set your headset at that too and not use ASW.  But again, if you can live with some stutters then I guess more eye candy is nice too  

[elricko]

Quick question, maybe I'm overthinking this. How much tinkering do you need to do to get the quest 3 working for DCS, and to get a clear picture? I'm thinking about using Amazon's 30days return to try it out. I've tried the Quest pro at work and I was able to clearly see the HDD of the cockpit, but that's an in-house software, not a game.

 

PC is a i5-13600k, 64gb ddr4, rx6950xt.

[sze5003]

Quick question, maybe I'm overthinking this. How much tinkering do you need to do to get the quest 3 working for DCS, and to get a clear picture? I'm thinking about using Amazon's 30days return to try it out. I've tried the Quest pro at work and I was able to clearly see the HDD of the cockpit, but that's an in-house software, not a game.
 
PC is a i5-13600k, 64gb ddr4, rx6950xt.

Probably can use the same settings mentioned in this thread.

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/319938-meta-quest-pro-settings/

[TimberWolf]

So far, the worst thing about the Quest 3 is the stupid Guardian. I know that there is a way to disable it, but it also disables passthrough for some unknown reason. Other than that, I've been pretty happy with the headset so far.

Must-have accessory, IMO, is the AMVR head pad. It's made for the Q2, but fits well enough on the Q3.

[Dogmanbird]

for me, the face padding and head strap are more uncomfortable than the quest 2.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Dogmanbird

[MIghtymoo]

6 hours ago, Dogmanbird said:

for me, the face padding and head strap are more uncomfortable than the quest 2.

 

Feedback from a friend going from Quest 2 to Quest 3: 

It's nice, much clearer. Not very comfy though. Taken a bit of extra tweaking. Tried VD and the reprojection is terrible 

[Dogmanbird]

I think the potential is there for VD to work well / look great with AC1. I'll hopefully test with a 6e router tomorrow

 

[sze5003]

I have a 6e router coming today which I will hook up to my orbi mesh system as a dedicated router for a quest. Don't have a pro or quest 3 yet but I'll probably get a Pro soon. I'll be curious to see how well DCS does wireless with its own 6hz channel, at least until I get one of those third party link cables that can keep it charged.

[Dogmanbird]

^ Please let us know how it goes

 

For the last 24 hours I've felt the quest 3 pcvr via cable looked quite washed out and lacking contrast plus my audio has been cutting in and out. In just the last hour, I've had an interesting result by running the drivers installer .exe located here C:\Program Files\Oculus\Support\oculus-drivers which appears to have improved the contrast and a tiny bit of additional clarity (possibly due to extra contrast?) for reading the mfd text, plus audio rarely cuts out - no other changes made. Curious to hear if it helps anyone else?

My best results so far both clarity and smooth fps in Caucasus map;

Wired link

Oculus Debug Tool PD 0.0

Oculus Debug Tool  link sharpening Quality

Oculus Debug Tool H264 codec

Oculus Debug Tool Encoder bit rate 900mbs (or set 500mbs to prevent any audio cut outs, but may cut briefly with headset message overlays) 

Cntrl + 3 for ASW @ 45fps

Oculus app device graphics option resolution set to auto @ 90hz

DCS VR Pixel Density 1.8

 

Marianas map might need an oculus CLI command or the oculus Tray Tool to lock asw fps at 25 or 30 so that it remains perfectly smooth

edit - run the cli.exe and use    server:asw.Clock30    for perfect smoothness for flying Marianas. Doesn't add much ASW wobble that I can see.

My system is 5800X3d, 4090, 3600mhz ram

 

 

 

 

Edited October 19, 2023 by Dogmanbird

[Hoirtel]

I tried the tip on VR flight SIM guys channel. Basically for link running the high bitrate setting but also setting the oculus render Res to 1.0 and then overiding system Res in the openxr toolkit to as high as you can manage. I can totally confirm this is very sharp and clear, much better than max render Res in oculus. On his tips he also says link sharpening on quality, I still think normal is sharper but YMMV. 

Maybe settings tips are pointless at mo. Just got it dialled in and its all to change tomorrow lol. 

[Pride37]

3 hours ago, Hoirtel said:

I tried the tip on VR flight SIM guys channel. Basically for link running the high bitrate setting but also setting the oculus render Res to 1.0 and then overiding system Res in the openxr toolkit to as high as you can manage. I can totally confirm this is very sharp and clear, much better than max render Res in oculus. On his tips he also says link sharpening on quality, I still think normal is sharper but YMMV. 

Maybe settings tips are pointless at mo. Just got it dialled in and its all to change tomorrow lol. 

Yeah, same for me, much better performance for me now using this tip, on par with the G2. Didn't try the link sharpening option so far, mine i still set on "Quality", I should give this one a try.

[Gman109]

Any of you with the Quest 3 in hand, noticed what the Youtube VR guy with the super annoying accent has, regarding dead pixels?  He said that he's gone through 6 Quest 3's already that have had pixels die.  He's very critical of Meta's QC here.

 

 

[sze5003]

Any of you with the Quest 3 in hand, noticed what the Youtube VR guy with the super annoying accent has, regarding dead pixels?  He said that he's gone through 6 Quest 3's already that have had pixels die.  He's very critical of Meta's QC here.
 
 

That sounds pretty unlucky. I suppose he's lucky they were able replace it for him before the refund policy ran out.

[Dogmanbird]

overriding the resolution in openxrtoolkit's just giving me the same results as upping the pixel density in the game game. I spose doing the latter means it's only affecting DCS. Could the override be included in a toolkit game profile?

If you haven't already tried, you can set  ASW to 30hz and crank things up even further whilst perfectly smooth. I think it still looks good. I can't get it to work using OTT and need to type the following into the CLI. You can do it mid flight.   Cntrl + 3 will cause it to revert back to 45Hz 

server:asw.Clock30

 

Apart from the annoyance of;

link having a little more controller latency than the G2

needing the vr controllers to do some stuff

ensuring the extra software is running in the background / turning link on

....I'm very happy with the Quest 3 results overall.

Edited October 19, 2023 by Dogmanbird

[Gorn_GER]

vor 7 Stunden schrieb Gman109:

Any of you with the Quest 3 in hand, noticed what the Youtube VR guy with the super annoying accent has, regarding dead pixels?  He said that he's gone through 6 Quest 3's already that have had pixels die.  He's very critical of Meta's QC here.

 

 

Me personal, blocked the VR Flight Sim Guy in my Youtube Home, because in my opinion, he talks alot bull<profanity> in his videos. I do not know how his videos are today but back than, he overhyped everything and after that gave silly critic. Often his Video Titles sounds like he got the one and only solution for a problem you have and the context of the video itself is meaningless bla bla bla about things that do not work, nor exist or sometimes has nothing to do with the title. If I need help, I never watch his videos. Does not say, he never showed something that worked but as german i would use a saying like: "Even a blind chicken sometimes finds a grain"

Look at this Thumbnail: "THE QUEST 3 HAS A.. SERIOUS PROBLEM!". This sounds like overall the produkt is bad like if a newspaper would say "soon we all die" just to say in the article that the clima change is still as bad as we already know. 

[dburne]

11 minutes ago, Gorn_GER said:

Me personal, blocked the VR Flight Sim Guy in my Youtube Home, because in my opinion, he talks alot bull<profanity> in his videos. I do not know how his videos are today but back than, he overhyped everything and after that gave silly critic. Often his Video Titles sounds like he got the one and only solution for a problem you have and the context of the video itself is meaningless bla bla bla about things that do not work, nor exist or sometimes has nothing to do with the title. If I need help, I never watch his videos. Does not say, he never showed something that worked but as german i would use a saying like: "Even a blind chicken sometimes finds a grain"

Look at this Thumbnail: "THE QUEST 3 HAS A.. SERIOUS PROBLEM!". This sounds like overall the produkt is bad like if a newspaper would say "soon we all die" just to say in the article that the clima change is still as bad as we already know. 

 

Yeah I feel the same, no desire to watch the vids any more.

[Hoirtel]

10 hours ago, Gman109 said:

Any of you with the Quest 3 in hand, noticed what the Youtube VR guy with the super annoying accent has, regarding dead pixels?  He said that he's gone through 6 Quest 3's already that have had pixels die.  He's very critical of Meta's QC here.

 

 

Six faulty headsets seems more than unlucky....

I have checked mine a few times and I really can't see any dead pixels? I can see glare in the right conditions but it's not invasive in gameplay. I also don't see any mura but maybe I don't notice it? Not sure what the best test is for that. 

[Dogmanbird]

23 hours ago, Dogmanbird said:

I think the potential is there for VD to work well / look great with AC1. I'll hopefully test with a 6e router tomorrow

 

i've been testing on tp-link axe75 via 6gig connection. With the router about 1.5m away from me it stable at about 2100 - 2400 Mb/s reported by VD

Tried all codecs and bitrates at godlike in VD and they all look ok (using VD OpenXR), but wired link using the above settings is definitely better. By the time I get it looking even close to wired link sharpness, it's full of stutters. I'm not sure what else to try. It's certainly playable and looks good for things like half life alyx

 

[Lorenzo.D]

I can t use av1(rtx 3090) i try hevc 10bit at 200mb and h264+ at 400mb and i can t see the difference....which is the best codec for virtual desktop?
Which are the good settings for openxr toolkit for dcs?

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[Dogmanbird]

I've just realised the Q3 does not benefit from using HAGS and improves with it off.   It made a big improvement to the reverb g2 with it on (for me) 

With it off, and with asw clock set to 30Hz, I can run in game pixel desnity at 2.0   or  oxrtoolit override at absolute max resolution, perfectly smooth on marianas map flying huey a few metres off the ground

[Lorenzo.D]

I've just realised the Q3 does not benefit from using HAGS and improves with it off.   It made a big improvement to the reverb g2 with it on (for me) 
With it off, and with asw clock set to 30Hz, I can run in game pixel desnity at 2.0   or  oxrtoolit override at absolute max resolution, perfectly smooth on marianas map flying huey a few metres off the ground

What Is hags?

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[dburne]

2 hours ago, Lorenzo.D said:

What Is hags?

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Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling. A windows setting.

How to Enable Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling in Windows 10 and 11 (howtogeek.com)

[Dogmanbird]

has anyone successfully enabled developer mode? 

 

[dutchili]

1 minute ago, Dogmanbird said:

has anyone successfully enabled developer mode? 

 

Yes me I enabled it when the previous software version caused usb to disconnect

[Dogmanbird]

thanks. Anything special required to do so? I had signed up back with q1 and q2. Can't get the mobile app to work

Edited October 19, 2023 by Dogmanbird