cannot repoduce and missing track file Are the wheelbrakes on the Viper really that weak?

[Rhinozherous]

Hello! 

More a question than a bug report:

Are the wheelbrakes on the real F16 Viper really that weak as they are simulated in DCS? I use aerobraking on landing with holding the nose up but when the nosewheel finally touches down the brakes are nearly not existant. Also when taxiing a bit faster they show nearly no effect. 

Thank you 

[Grodin]

Can you post a track? My F16 stops just fine. During taxi i never have to use full brakes, stops almost like a car.

[Tholozor]

Landing weight and aerobraking are the name of the game here. Make sure speedbrakes are fully deployed after nose wheel touchdown as well.

Edited June 8, 2023 by Tholozor

[VarZat]

Even on landing i pretty much never use full brakes.

Maybe check you curves for the brakes to see if there is anything wierd there?

Edited June 8, 2023 by VarZat

[Rhinozherous]

Hmm I will recheck my brake axis assignment asap and provide a track if nothing wrong with axis. 

[_SteelFalcon_]

And maybe check with the controls overlay enabled in game, you‘ll instantly see if an axis misbehaves

[Lord Vader]

Hey @Rhinozherous

Like previously said, a lot of factors like airspeed, weight and technique are at play here. For any aircraft, not just the Viper.

But, for this particular plane, a good rule of thumb is, check landing weight (loadout+fuel), perform a good glide to the TDZ with a good AOA, touchdown, aerodynamic braking, then apply pedal brake to reach full stop. 

It's a matter of practice as this is not your typical Hornet where you want to destroy the tarmac landing. 
Awesome video to demonstrate this: 

 

[LieutenantFalcon]

The Viper is notorious for having pretty underwhelming brakes so this is nothing to be unexpected. 
Why spend weight on something you only use during the time the plane is on the ground? The USAF always has access to looooong runways so they don't mind that one of their fighters actually uses the full length of that runway. Sometimes you need well over 1.5nm of runway length to stop, which isn't inaccurate when you still have a lot of fuel and ordnance on board.

Now the lack of an antiskid, that is still an issue

[macedk]

Also landing discipline. 
I think many of us are landing too hot. 
F-16 is a racecar, think throttle and you added 20 knots