Atari800XL Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) Hi everyone, Is it in the real F-15E so, that I have no lights or other feedback in the pilots frontseat when the speed brake is extracted? It's really cool to see the speedbrake "hesitate" when I use it at higher speeds, in the F-15C (FC3) the speedbrake will extract and work at nearly every speed. And even when I raise the seat-position, I can't see the extracted brake in the upper mirror. Are the only ways to recognize a extracted speedbrake the braking speed in the HUD and the sound? (and external views?) Sorry for probably the stupidest question of the week but this interests me. I love the planespotter-videos of landing F-15's, touching down, keeping nose up and then extracting the speed brake. I often try to land exactly this way. Thanks and best regards! Edited June 26, 2023 by Atari800XL DCS MT, all maps except channel, FC3, F-16C Viper, F-15E, F/A-18C, AH-64D, F-5E, F-4E, P-51D, Spitfire, Fw-190D, MiG-21bis, L-39, AJS-37 Supercarrier, WWII-AP, CA, TrackIR5, F/A-18-Stick + Thrustmaster 16000, Stream Deck 8x4, 2x MFD Cougar Ryzen9 5950X SMT off, 64GB RAM, RTX 4070 SUPER TI, UWQHD 3440x1440, Win11+DCS from separate M.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 That's correct, no light or gauge indications, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari800XL Posted June 26, 2023 Author Share Posted June 26, 2023 Thank you, I inspected every corner of the cockpit with fixed TrackIR and maximum zoom ... and found nothing DCS MT, all maps except channel, FC3, F-16C Viper, F-15E, F/A-18C, AH-64D, F-5E, F-4E, P-51D, Spitfire, Fw-190D, MiG-21bis, L-39, AJS-37 Supercarrier, WWII-AP, CA, TrackIR5, F/A-18-Stick + Thrustmaster 16000, Stream Deck 8x4, 2x MFD Cougar Ryzen9 5950X SMT off, 64GB RAM, RTX 4070 SUPER TI, UWQHD 3440x1440, Win11+DCS from separate M.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 So strange … AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 32GB Adata Spectrix D50 3600 Mhz (16x2) | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | My Files | Windows 10 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergburger Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 how to tell if airbrake is deployed? turn your head? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikeeagle Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Atari800XL said: Hi everyone, Is it in the real F-15E so, that I have no lights or other feedback in the pilots frontseat when the speed brake is extracted? It's really cool to see the speedbrake "hesitate" when I use it at higher speeds, in the F-15C (FC3) the speedbrake will extract and work at nearly every speed. And even when I raise the seat-position, I can't see the extracted brake in the upper mirror. Are the only ways to recognize a extracted speedbrake the braking speed in the HUD and the sound? (and external views?) Sorry for probably the stupidest question of the week but this interests me. I love the planespotter-videos of landing F-15's, touching down, keeping nose up and then extracting the speed brake. I often try to land exactly this way. Thanks and best regards! No light in the real jet. It’s a huge “barn door”. You can hear it, feel it, and see it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Zergburger said: how to tell if airbrake is deployed? turn your head? Yep, just look over your shoulder. It's not like the viper where a partially deployed brake can't be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilnate Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 My troubles have been when the brake is extended just a bit. Enough to cause drag but not enough to see it from pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDsc0rch Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 also... YOUR THUMB is currently holding it open! so, kinesthetic feedback would probably be a good indication that the speedbrake is employed i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 hour ago, SDsc0rch said: also... YOUR THUMB is currently holding it open! so, kinesthetic feedback would probably be a good indication that the speedbrake is employed Sb does not require SB to be held open manually. Switch has static switch positions to freeze speedbrake in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipwich Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 There is an option in the control setup for fully extend or retract. R7 5800X3D / 32GB / VPC T-50 CM2 Base and CM3 Throttle with TM Hornet Grip / RTX 4080 Super / Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDsc0rch Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 19 hours ago, Rainmaker said: Sb does not require SB to be held open manually. Switch has static switch positions to freeze speedbrake in place. i'm curious --- is that how the SB functions in real world?? i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, SDsc0rch said: i'm curious --- is that how the SB functions in real world?? Yes. The switch holds in a constant state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 In the DCS F-15E, there are separate controls for the speed brake that you can choose from depending on your controls and the type of switch you want to bind it to: momentary (what I use on my Virpil CMP3 throttle for example), or a 3-position switch that holds in place and you have to put back to centre yourself (such as the TM Warthog throttle). Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Gigabyte RX6900XT | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | HP Reverb G2 Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2+3 base / CM2 x2 grip with 200 mm S-curve extension + CM3 throttle + CP2/3 + FSSB R3L + VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS "HIGH" preset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 As thought, I just timed it. It takes roughly 3-4 seconds to deploy and 7-8 to retract. Me, I'll just count whilst pressing the button. System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mr_sukebe said: As thought, I just timed it. It takes roughly 3-4 seconds to deploy and 7-8 to retract. Me, I'll just count whilst pressing the button. Its roughly 2 and 5...so you must be counting a bit fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rainmaker said: Its roughly 2 and 5...so you must be counting a bit fast Wouldn't deny that. After all, I was in a jet fighter... System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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