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  1. 1. Which Trainer jet to teach new pilo

    • F-5
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    • MB-339
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    • L-39
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    • C-101
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    • A-4 Community
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    • Other. I'll post my response
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T-45 Goshawk, no question. It has no weapons, but best for overall learning.

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Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти.

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F-15C or A-10A perhaps? No FBW but at the same time no real quirks in the FM. All the modern aids are there (HUD and flight path marker mainly), but at the same time the simple avionics won't distract from the flying. The Viper can be tricky during takeoffs and landings. The Hornet is easier if you insist on a full fidelity module, but the trimming logic doesn't carry over to other planes.

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F-15C is an FC3 module, and therefore a bad introduction to DCS. Plus, it has a big disadvantage of being keyboard-operated, which means remembering a lot of keystrokes unless you have a HOTAS that can take them all. Most of those functions are on clickable switches in FF modules, which means they're often easier to learn. 

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On 7/27/2023 at 7:09 PM, razorseal said:

Just realized MB339 is less than a year old lol. I thought it was a pretty old DCS jet

Because it was a good mod for a long time before going official.

My answer - other: Su-25T but really no trainer is needed in simulation world.

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Su-25T is terrible. Flies like a pig, FC3, and looks really dated on top of that. If it wasn't free, nobody would've bought it. It's a good enough combat jet, but a poor introduction to DCS, mostly on account of not being all that fun to fly.

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C-101 is a good choice, for its exceptional simulation of systems (and system failures).

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C-101 is a good choice, for its exceptional simulation of systems (and system failures).
And superb training missions. The instructor really hates me.
The Su-25T is a great module IMHO, especially with FFB, but it lacks quite a few features, like dual wheelbrake axis etc. And I agree, it's not a great trainer, but it was kinda fun as my introduction to DCS, though one needs a HOTAS which I kind of didn't have at the time. Only my old TM game port one.
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I discovered the T-45 Goshawk not long ago and tried it out.

It’s a jet trainer, carrier capable and simple to fly. Really well done little mod I reckon. Multiplayer as well I think?

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As somebody posted, in DCS if you crash, you hit re-fly, you do not die.

Rather than buying a module to learn in, I support the above post suggesting the T-45, plus its free.

It can be used in Multiplayer providing the server has it as well.

Over at the Dangerdogz we have it as part of our "must have" mods to get onto our server.

If you are a new pilot and looking for a DCS squad that has UK and North American elements, drop by and say hello

www.dangerdogz.com

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Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out. 

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@Schlingel mit Kringel
Actually, the MiGs have the brake lever on the stick. The Sus have ordinary brake pedals. For some reason ED left them out for the 25s, while the 27 and 33 have them. 😉
Cheers!

EDIT: And the T-45 is an excellent choice. 

 


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Edited by MAXsenna
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6 hours ago, Schlingel mit Kringel said:

For the wheel brakes in the Su-25: that is a soviet thing, i do not think any russian plane got rudder pedal (left/right) brakes. All a single handle on the flight stick.

That is true for many Russian fighters, but ironically not for Su-25, which has Western-style toe brakes. The Soviets tested the F-5 they got from Vietnam around the time it was developed and the brakes was one thing they really liked. The real Su-25T retained the system, though ours does not have separate toe brakes. The paid Su-25 does.

Amusingly, the previous Russian aircraft to feature toe brakes was the I-16, where they were not hydraulic but purely mechanical, like a bicycle brake (the thing was notorious for having weak brakes, not that this was a bad thing in a taildragger). They switched to pneumatic brakes around WWII and have kept them for a long time, with Sukhoi and Tupolev eventually going back to toe brakes with hydraulics. MiGs use pneumatics with a shared lever to this day.

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and @Dragon1-1
Oh weeh, shame on me! You are right To my defense: i usually fly the Su-25a only and stick to the MiG-29 otherwise, guess that missing 25 axis tricked me. Rarely sit in the 27 or 33. Is there a bug report for that missing axis on the 25? Got to bump or create!
Yeah, brake axis have been requested in wishlists.

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