Lace Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 As the title really - I assume wired connection and decent SSD, but what else helps? Do we still want a decent multi-core CPU? What about a GPU? Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, 2x2TB NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, Virpil collective, Cougar throttle, Viper ICP & MFDs, pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Quest 3S. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111.
Archer.xd Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 No need for GPU as dedicated server is not rendering anything. A CPU with good single-core performance (server isnt multithreaded), SSD, RAM (8gb should be enough for 1 server with relatively light mission, go for more if you intend to host for more people and heavier missions [I was hosting 4 servers all with heavy missions with 32gb]) Good connection, in a nutshell 1mbps per client but of course depends on how many clients are there etc. 2
Lace Posted September 11, 2023 Author Posted September 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Archer.xd said: No need for GPU as dedicated server is not rendering anything. A CPU with good single-core performance (server isnt multithreaded), SSD, RAM (8gb should be enough for 1 server with relatively light mission, go for more if you intend to host for more people and heavier missions [I was hosting 4 servers all with heavy missions with 32gb]) Good connection, in a nutshell 1mbps per client but of course depends on how many clients are there etc. Perfect, just what I was after. Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, 2x2TB NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, Virpil collective, Cougar throttle, Viper ICP & MFDs, pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Quest 3S. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111.
CapGus Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 On 9/11/2023 at 8:02 AM, Archer.xd said: No need for GPU as dedicated server is not rendering anything. A CPU with good single-core performance (server isnt multithreaded), SSD, RAM (8gb should be enough for 1 server with relatively light mission, go for more if you intend to host for more people and heavier missions [I was hosting 4 servers all with heavy missions with 32gb]) Good connection, in a nutshell 1mbps per client but of course depends on how many clients are there etc. And which low cost CPU you recommend?
Maverick87Shaka Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 3 hours ago, CapGus said: And which low cost CPU you recommend? It depends on how many instances of DCS you want run on the same machine, plan to have it dedicated just for DCS or you want use it to host other LAN/Home services? Expected player base ( you and your friend or 40+ more players) All of this condition makes the difference..... Just for a single instance, something like a Intel® Core™ i3-10100F should be able to handle even complex scenario and a quite range of player, and you can find it at 70€ FlighRIG => CPU: RyZen 5900x | RAM: 64GB Corsair 3000Mhz | GPU: nVIDIA RTX 4090 FE | OS Storage: SSD NVMe Samsung 850 Pro 512GB, DCS Storage: SSD NVMe Sabrent 1TB | Device: Multipurpose-UFC, VirPil T-50, TM WARTHOG Throttle, TrackHat, MFD Cougar with screen. Our Servers => [ITA] Banshee | Krasnodar - PvE | PersianConquest PvE Live Map&Stats | Syria Liberation PvE Conquest Support us on twitch subscribing with amazon prime account linked, it's free!
Tomcat388th Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 I just set one up last week using my old Dell t3600 workstation xeon 3.2GB 32GB ram ssd drives. I'm just using it for simple training missions for our Squad. I'm running this over Starlink with a VPN to have a dedicated ip and port forwarding. Once in game pings are roughly 120 but everything seems to be runnning smoothly. We had 8 guys flying the other night no lags but not really a stress test either J Ryzen7 5800X3D. 64 gb ram, 6950XT 16gb, Winwing Orion F18, MFG Crosswind Rudder, 42 inch lg tv, Quest PRO USN VF31 F14A AE2 1985-1989 CV 59 NAS Oceana IL ANG 183FW/170FS F16C Block 30 Big Mouth 1989-2006 Full time tech Retired E8
Mistermann Posted October 21, 2023 Posted October 21, 2023 As a test, I installed an OB dedicated server on an old Dell Ryzen 5 2500U with 8GB RAM (similar to this one - https://a.co/d/bgOe3hW but mine has a crummy non SSD spinner drive). I did it just to see if it could be done and what the experience might be for my flying buddies. To my surprise, we could host training missions (like Bankler's Case I Recovery mission) just fine. There's only 3 of us that use it, so its not getting stressed with traffic. I suspect some of the dedicated MP persistent campaigns (like those from @Surrexen) would crush it, however. System Specs: Spoiler Callsign:Kandy Processor:13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900K - RAM: 64GB - Video Card: NVIDIA RTX 4090 - Display: Pimax 8kx VR Headset - Accessories: VKB Gunfighter III MCG Ultimate, VKB STECS Standard, Thrustmaster TPR Pedals, Simshaker JetPad, Predator HOTAS Mounts, 3D Printed Flight Button Box Video Capture Software: Open Broadcaster Software (OBS), Video Editing Software: PowerDirector 365 Into The Jungle Apache Campaign - Griffins Kiowa Campaign - Assassins Thrustmaster TWCS Mod
Lace Posted October 24, 2023 Author Posted October 24, 2023 Just to circle back - I ended up with a used Dell Optiplex Mini, 7040 i5. I put 32GB RAM and a spare 500GB SSD I had in it. 1 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, 2x2TB NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, Virpil collective, Cougar throttle, Viper ICP & MFDs, pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Quest 3S. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111.
ACS_Dev Posted May 4, 2024 Posted May 4, 2024 On 10/24/2023 at 11:24 AM, Lace said: Just to circle back - I ended up with a used Dell Optiplex Mini, 7040 i5. I put 32GB RAM and a spare 500GB SSD I had in it. How is this working out for you and what are you doing with it? Looking at doing something similar. "Got a source for that claim?" Too busy learning the F-16 to fly it, Too busy making missions to play them Callsign: "NoGo" "Because he's always working in the editor/coding something and he never actually flies" - frustrated buddy Main PC: Ryzen 5 5600X, Radeon 6900XT, 32GB DDR4-3000, All the SSDs. Server PC: Dell Optiplex 5070, I7 9700T 3.5GHz, 32GB DDR4-2133. Oculus Quest 3.
Lace Posted May 5, 2024 Author Posted May 5, 2024 17 hours ago, ACS_Dev said: How is this working out for you and what are you doing with it? Looking at doing something similar. I've not used it much lately, but it was running some home made sandbox-type missions, mainly for myself and sometimes +1 for multicrew, with both clients on the same local network. I'm not exactly stretching the limits in terms of clients or AI units, but it does a decent job, and the slight increase in FPS performance is offset by the longer setup time and transferring of files over, vs being more impulsive on what I want to fly when playing pure SP locally. Overall, I'm happy given the <$200 total cost. 1 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, 2x2TB NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, Virpil collective, Cougar throttle, Viper ICP & MFDs, pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Quest 3S. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111.
ACS_Dev Posted May 5, 2024 Posted May 5, 2024 2 hours ago, Lace said: I've not used it much lately, but it was running some home made sandbox-type missions, mainly for myself and sometimes +1 for multicrew, with both clients on the same local network. I'm not exactly stretching the limits in terms of clients or AI units, but it does a decent job, and the slight increase in FPS performance is offset by the longer setup time and transferring of files over, vs being more impulsive on what I want to fly when playing pure SP locally. Overall, I'm happy given the <$200 total cost. How much FPS would you say? Are you happy with the performance overall? I understand that it was inexpensive but do you feel any desire to get something better? "Got a source for that claim?" Too busy learning the F-16 to fly it, Too busy making missions to play them Callsign: "NoGo" "Because he's always working in the editor/coding something and he never actually flies" - frustrated buddy Main PC: Ryzen 5 5600X, Radeon 6900XT, 32GB DDR4-3000, All the SSDs. Server PC: Dell Optiplex 5070, I7 9700T 3.5GHz, 32GB DDR4-2133. Oculus Quest 3.
Lace Posted May 5, 2024 Author Posted May 5, 2024 1 hour ago, ACS_Dev said: How much FPS would you say? Are you happy with the performance overall? I understand that it was inexpensive but do you feel any desire to get something better? For how much it gets used, I don't feel the need to get something 'better'. I like the fact that it is tiny and just sits under one of my monitors on my desk. It's hard to quantify the performance improvement as there are so many variables, but despite MT improvements DCS is still fairly inefficient at allocating resources, so AI pathfinding etc being moved to another physical computer helps a bit - this is well established. 1 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, 2x2TB NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, Virpil collective, Cougar throttle, Viper ICP & MFDs, pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Quest 3S. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111.
Junkyness Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 (edited) If you're looking for a solid, dedicated server, I’d recommend going for something with a good mix of power and flexibility. Aim for at least four cores, 8 GB of RAM, and around 100 GB of SSD storage. This should give you a smooth experience for most applications. If you're running something more demanding, like high-traffic websites or resource-heavy apps, you might want to bump up to 8 cores, 16 GB of RAM, and more storage. One provider you might want to check out is https://www.blueangel.host/managed-vps.html . They offer a range of options, and their support is pretty reliable. Edited September 24, 2024 by Junkyness
HC_Official Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 quad core at 3Ghz+ , 32G RAM , 200G+ of SSD space No more pre-orders Click here for tutorials for using Virpil Hardware and Software Click here for Virpil Flight equipment dimensions and pictures. .
HILOK Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) quick question, is there any difference during runtime in using an SSD vs a HDD on a dedicated server? i mean could that produce any latencies during mission due to access times on a HDD, or would it just mean longer loading/server start times? thanks Edited February 1 by HILOK
Tomcat388th Posted February 1 Posted February 1 No expert here but I would think if it had to access the hdd for much info you might see a stutter or pause in mission but I really don't know. I just upgrade my server from SSD to a Nvme I did notice a faster load time but that was it. 1 Ryzen7 5800X3D. 64 gb ram, 6950XT 16gb, Winwing Orion F18, MFG Crosswind Rudder, 42 inch lg tv, Quest PRO USN VF31 F14A AE2 1985-1989 CV 59 NAS Oceana IL ANG 183FW/170FS F16C Block 30 Big Mouth 1989-2006 Full time tech Retired E8
Actium Posted February 14 Posted February 14 AFAICT, the DCS server loads all required assets while loading the mission, incurring significantly longer load times from an HDD. However, short of a developer confirming that no load will ever occur while a mission runs, no one knows for sure. If you run into performance issues later on, you'll always wonder whether these are caused by the HDD. Writing Tacview logs onto an HDD may very well affect the server performance. So, personally, I'd invest into an NVMe SSD. Half a TB costs around 50 bucks these days. IMHO, well worth the peace of mind.
Maverick87Shaka Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 2/1/2025 at 8:15 AM, HILOK said: bump SSD for sure, HHD should not be considered for any "realtime" usecase nowday, honestly! You can also find good offers for NVMe drive, so go for that FlighRIG => CPU: RyZen 5900x | RAM: 64GB Corsair 3000Mhz | GPU: nVIDIA RTX 4090 FE | OS Storage: SSD NVMe Samsung 850 Pro 512GB, DCS Storage: SSD NVMe Sabrent 1TB | Device: Multipurpose-UFC, VirPil T-50, TM WARTHOG Throttle, TrackHat, MFD Cougar with screen. Our Servers => [ITA] Banshee | Krasnodar - PvE | PersianConquest PvE Live Map&Stats | Syria Liberation PvE Conquest Support us on twitch subscribing with amazon prime account linked, it's free!
Mr_sukebe Posted February 16 Posted February 16 IMO: - as already stated, no GPU, it won’t do anything but use power and add heat to the room - 16GB of Ram min. Last time I tested it, just the server and windows was using just over 8GB, which would mean the use of pagefile. Never good for perfomance. More to the point, RAM is dirt cheap. - 1TB SSD. The server still requires quite a lot of storage space for each terrain, and also gives room for liveries, mods etc - Pretty much any CPU in the last 5 years. I believe that the dedicated server is still single threaded, so no need for multiple cores. 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Actium Posted February 16 Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Mr_sukebe said: Pretty much any CPU in the last 5 years. I believe that the dedicated server is still single threaded, so no need for multiple cores. The dedicated server has been multi-threaded since (at least) version 2.9.9. However, while it does use multiple threads, like the DCS client it still relies heavily on the main thread and does not scale well with CPU cores. Therefore, CPU single thread performance is key. Overall performance deteriorates rapidly once the main thread hits its performance ceiling. Presumably, due to a lack of sufficiently concurrent, lock-free data structures and therefore excessive locking that prevents threads from running simultaneously. 2
Scal Posted March 19 Posted March 19 (edited) On 2/16/2025 at 1:30 PM, Mr_sukebe said: IMO: - as already stated, no GPU, it won’t do anything but use power and add heat to the room - 16GB of Ram min. Last time I tested it, just the server and windows was using just over 8GB, which would mean the use of pagefile. Never good for perfomance. More to the point, RAM is dirt cheap. - 1TB SSD. The server still requires quite a lot of storage space for each terrain, and also gives room for liveries, mods etc - Pretty much any CPU in the last 5 years. I believe that the dedicated server is still single threaded, so no need for multiple cores. Do we need to install all aircrafts and terrains mods on the server ? If it is the case we need +2TB disk… Edited March 19 by Scal
MAXsenna Posted March 19 Posted March 19 42 minutes ago, Scal said: Do we need to install all aircrafts and terrains mods on the server ? If it is the case we need +2TB disk… Yes, all the maps, (and mods if you plan on using any in the future, like the A-4E-C, OH-6A, Current Hill's etc), needs to be installed on the server. Cheers!
104th_Money Posted March 20 Posted March 20 @Actium dedicated server is not multi-threaded... I rented a server for a few months with 6 cores/32gb ram and 10gb storage for mods. Ran a heavy mission regularly, after about 2 hours, missions started to have lag, desync and rubberbanding issues. I ended up building a server with spare parts after a huge hardware upgrade to my flying PC. Now running a dedicated server out of my home with a dedicated fiber connection at 1gbps up/down speed, i7-12700k CPU/Z690 mobo, Windows 11 Pro, 64gb of DDR4-3600 ram and a 2TB Samsung 980Pro Gen4 SSD with 7000mb/sec read/write speed. I now have several very heavy missions with 2400 static/ai units (think populated air bases with static aircraft, ground vehicles and ground crew all over the place...static units are in 1800 unit range, the rest AI/client units). Server gets rebooted every 5-6 days, mission stays up with resume on client to pause when server empty. Have had 10 people on from different parts of globe at same time and have absolutely no issues whatsoever...CPU usage, Ram usage, SSD usage, internet usage/ping all low with 10 people. Intel i9-13900k, Asus Z790-E Gaming Wi-fi 2 motherboard, 64gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR5-6400 RGB ram 2x32gb XMP2 profile, 4TB Crucial T700 PCIE 5.0 SSD internal, 2TB Crucial T700 PCIE 5.0 SSD internal, Asus ROG Strix OC GeForce RTX 4090, Corsair 7000X Case with 5 x 120mm side mounted intake fans and 3 x 140mm top mounted exhaust fans, 1 x 140mm rear mounted exhaust fans, front mounted Corsair H150i Elite Capellix 360mm liquid cooler w/Elite LCD with 6 x 120mm fans in 3 push, 3 pull intake configuration, 1 x 32" Samsung 3840x2160 display, 1x 32" Asus 2560x1440 display, TrackIR5 w/pro clip, Thrustmaster Warthog stick and throttle, CH Fighterstick Pro and Pebble Beach Velocity pedals.
104th_Money Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Thought I might add the fact that using W11 Pro for server OS, I have applied a lot of settings that one would normally use to stop stuttering/lag/low fps on a pc flying as a client. Such as ED folder and saved games folder have Windows Defender exclusions, core parking turned off, HAGS off, ultimate power plan, turned off shadows and transparency, setting pagefile size, reducing mouse polling rate to 1000 or less, Game Mode off and disable USB selective suspend. Not sure how many of these are actually helping server performance but I figured since it works well for my flying pc, it couldn’t hurt for server either. Intel i9-13900k, Asus Z790-E Gaming Wi-fi 2 motherboard, 64gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR5-6400 RGB ram 2x32gb XMP2 profile, 4TB Crucial T700 PCIE 5.0 SSD internal, 2TB Crucial T700 PCIE 5.0 SSD internal, Asus ROG Strix OC GeForce RTX 4090, Corsair 7000X Case with 5 x 120mm side mounted intake fans and 3 x 140mm top mounted exhaust fans, 1 x 140mm rear mounted exhaust fans, front mounted Corsair H150i Elite Capellix 360mm liquid cooler w/Elite LCD with 6 x 120mm fans in 3 push, 3 pull intake configuration, 1 x 32" Samsung 3840x2160 display, 1x 32" Asus 2560x1440 display, TrackIR5 w/pro clip, Thrustmaster Warthog stick and throttle, CH Fighterstick Pro and Pebble Beach Velocity pedals.
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