Concrete MODS for maps and airfields

[hammergaming1978]

Does anyone know if there is such a mod to add concrete base to the maps and airfields so that certain structures can sit flat and or to add more to dense flat open area. Like different shapes and sizes of concrete base flooring and so on. If so, can anyone help me with the link for such a much-needed mod. 

 

Thanks. 

[Tengah]

Have been looking for something similar myself.

[crazyeddie]

Thats quite difficult to achieve. The ground is very uneven in places so the concrete 'blocks' have to be quite thick to compensate for the undulations, and even then a large block will almost always disappear on one side or corner depending on how the ground below it lies.  The block when placed will be flat, or it might tilt dramatically (I'm not sure why that happens but it has to be something to do with the ground underneath it I expect).

So, you are probably restricted to quite small  blocks of concrete and putting them side by side, BUT its very unlikely they will meet up perfectly along the joining edges.  The only place you might be able to get a good match is on an existing in game concrete texture, but there would be no point in doing that of course.  

Your other choice is to make a very long or very large block of concrete and find a place where it does not tilt or fade into the sloping ground below it too much.  We never managed to do it well. 

Hawkeye and I played around with this ages ago, we made a few small blocks with a bit of thickness to them and I use them a bit, but there is no damage model so any vehicle you place on them sits on the ground below the block, not very accurate really.  No aircraft could land on them, we found they will always crash because they are landing on the ground underneath, not the block.  We never tried to resolve that, better things to be getting on with. 

The chances of finding a long enough bit of map to place a single runway on as a single block, say, is pretty remote I fear. 

Your other choice is to edit existing game ground texture files but that's a huge task and not one I would spend time on.  Others have done that by creating better textures for certain maps and I have done a little bit of that to my own Caucasus Map but that took me a huge amount of time to do and again I had other things I wanted to be doing.  

There were a couple of Mods, one done by eightball I think, of a building you could add floors to, but I'm not aware of any large concrete block or long runway mods.  

It might be done one day, so keep asking. 

[Tengah]

On 9/26/2023 at 10:02 PM, crazyeddie said:

Thats quite difficult to achieve. The ground is very uneven in places so the concrete 'blocks' have to be quite thick to compensate for the undulations, and even then a large block will almost always disappear on one side or corner depending on how the ground below it lies.  The block when placed will be flat, or it might tilt dramatically (I'm not sure why that happens but it has to be something to do with the ground underneath it I expect).

So, you are probably restricted to quite small  blocks of concrete and putting them side by side, BUT its very unlikely they will meet up perfectly along the joining edges.  The only place you might be able to get a good match is on an existing in game concrete texture, but there would be no point in doing that of course.  

Your other choice is to make a very long or very large block of concrete and find a place where it does not tilt or fade into the sloping ground below it too much.  We never managed to do it well. 

Hawkeye and I played around with this ages ago, we made a few small blocks with a bit of thickness to them and I use them a bit, but there is no damage model so any vehicle you place on them sits on the ground below the block, not very accurate really.  No aircraft could land on them, we found they will always crash because they are landing on the ground underneath, not the block.  We never tried to resolve that, better things to be getting on with. 

The chances of finding a long enough bit of map to place a single runway on as a single block, say, is pretty remote I fear. 

Your other choice is to edit existing game ground texture files but that's a huge task and not one I would spend time on.  Others have done that by creating better textures for certain maps and I have done a little bit of that to my own Caucasus Map but that took me a huge amount of time to do and again I had other things I wanted to be doing.  

There were a couple of Mods, one done by eightball I think, of a building you could add floors to, but I'm not aware of any large concrete block or long runway mods.  

It might be done one day, so keep asking. 

Thanks for the reply, CrazyEddie.

[Hawkeye60]

I believe this is now possible.

It can be done with a proper collision shell, code, and arg.

I did not ever thibk I could make a Island, with a runway,

which you could spawn upon.

What you have here,

is a attempt to do just that!

The spawn height may be off.

And position.

Place as a shp

give no way points or speed.

Spawn any carrier capable aircraft on board.

You should be in the center of the runway.

There are trees to add ambiance.

The Island is armed!

Taking this idea one step further,  why not on land?

As Eddie said, the runway would need to be raised.

But like a FARP, the collision makes it work.

A WIP

I was not going to release this but,

No time like the present!' Will start a new thread is it works out.

 

Presenting,

Midway Island!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7n9y714qhft6b5/Midway Island 2.7 V 1.0.rar?dl=0

 

 

[Hawkeye60]

Seems to work for ai!

But player sinks into the ground a bit. A collision up-date is needed.

 

Runway needs love.

No trees added

[Slippa]

I wondered about something like this a while back. Well done for working on it, hope it works out ok. 

I was gonna ask if I could land a Spit of a Mossie on it but I see you’re testing it with a Pony so should be good.

Will take a look later, cheers.

[Shrike88]

There was a "Mats" or AM2 Mats for DCS by Suntsag, Those worked pretty well.   You might want to try those as they came in difference sizes.  Worked well for parking taxiing etc. However as a runway . . . meh as different modules landing gear reacted differently at high speed to the interesections of the long mats.  
could probably do a AM2 mat with the skijump combo for shorter STOL stuff.

Good luck 

again all predicated on the smoothness of the terrain.  My issue was always the grass protruding from the mats.  couldnt remove the grass and bushes texture even with the clear/ remove ME lua commands.  Kind of lame
 

 

[Linx]

On 9/28/2023 at 1:33 AM, Hawkeye60 said:

I believe this is now possible.

It can be done with a proper collision shell, code, and arg.

Wow! The potential of this is amazing.
With this we can easily make additional "airfields" and revitalize older maps like Caucasus.

As a mission maker myself, this is one the best mods I have seen in a while.

Well done.

Edited October 17, 2023 by Linx

[Hawkeye60]

I am totally amazed by this one!

I have not looked at this for ages.

Did not think it would work.

WELL!!

Let me show you "The WAY"

I present, for your consideration,
 

Pearl Harbor!

With all you see here,

and,

I am in the cockpit of the Spitfire,

ON THE RUNWAY!

HOLY CRAP!

Where are those Japs?

After testing, I MAY release this IF, there is interest.

Tower in the distance.

Talk about concrete!

They had no asphalt.

WWII radar next to the runway

 

 

 

 

[Eiserne Adler]

I am getting in the thread. Really hard work and lots of patience to do an island or any kind of terrain as I noticed. 
Well done!

[Linx]

18 hours ago, Hawkeye60 said:

After testing, I MAY release this IF, there is interest.

 

The interest is here.

 

This could be useful as Kharg island stand in, on PG map.

[352ndDeacon]

If you can get Pearl Harbor and Midway Island to work so we could spawn and take off and land, the Pacific War missions would be opened up with all the mod planes and WWII carriers available. 

[hammergaming1978]

Please release the Pearl Harbor one, that looks great.

 

[Linx]

On 11/20/2023 at 5:13 PM, hammergaming1978 said:

Please release the Pearl Harbor one, that looks great.

 

+1

[Hawkeye60]

It seems the last ED up-date of a few days ago broke my island!

Investigating.......

[Slippa]

Ah, gutting. Hope it’s an easy fix for ya. I hadn’t thought about this for a while.

Good luck with it.

[Linx]

Good luck! Fingers crossed and looking forward to news.

[Hawkeye60]

I now can report,

Success!

This is the result!

A new island

Spawnable with ai so far......

Work continues......

[Hawkeye60]

Now spawnable as Player!

[Miro]

Can this object be placed on land? I would like to replace the missing airports in Sinai with it. so, for example, I want to fly to Ramat David, I place this object at the airport and I can land there

[Hawkeye60]

No. Ocean only.

But a land runway FARP could  be made

[Miro]

15 hours ago, Hawkeye60 said:

No. Ocean only.

But a land runway FARP could  be made

I need runway  as I wrote above, to relocate flights in places that are on the map, but for some reason there is no runway there, for example Ramat David in Sinai. I think that such a mod would be a hit, just a runway with a length of, let's say, 3 km and that's it.

[Hawkeye60]

Send a PM to @crazyeddie

He may be able to help.

[Woogey]

Hawkeye, 

The last post you did kind of reminds me of Cubi Point.  I know it is not, but makes me think....... Cubi with all of its Terraces and different Ramp elevations would be a cool little mod.

-Preston