Topper81 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Hello, I sometimes have "black frames", in the attached video @ ~ 20sec. I tested to change some settings without success. Settings are as Desktop 2023.10.28 - 14.46.55.01_2.mp4 follows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Please attach a short DCS track over Caucasus along with your options.lua file (from Saved Games/DCS.../Config). 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 17 hours ago, Topper81 said: Hello, I sometimes have "black frames", in the attached video @ ~ 20sec. I tested to change some settings without success. Settings are as Desktop 2023.10.28 - 14.46.55.01_2.mp4 5.31 MB · 5 downloads follows: Very rarely but the same. 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper81 Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Hi sure I added a trackfile I noticed that it seems to be depend on where you looking at. I also recorded this as a video, and when I look frame by frame, it seems not to be complete black, to me it looks more like flying in the dusk for one frame: "Black" frame (dusk): Next frame (normal): you can see this also in the attached video: I also sometimes observed some "flickering" caused by lighning changes on the displays (Maybe related to this issue in general): But it's not related to the Hornet, I have the same issue with the Apache... blackframes.trk options.lua Edited October 29, 2023 by Topper81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Thank you. I'm not able to reproduce this issue, which makes me think it might be the issue seen here, often described as a "white flash": Devs are investigating. 2 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Flappie said: Thank you. I'm not able to reproduce this issue, which makes me think it might be the issue seen here, often described as a "white flash": Devs are investigating. Thx. When I notice it again, I will record a track and check if the problem repeats itself. Generally, its very rare for me (5% chance for me to encounter it), it probably depends on the settings and the appropriate time of day (I think). Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper81 Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just one more possible hint: I only have noticed this issue when TGP or MAV picture was displayed, or video image in the Apache. When I turn off those stuff, I don't see any dark frames so far. Maybe it has something to do with the rendering of those picture... But for sure it could also be performance related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman222 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) Interesting. I also have the black frames. Running a i13900KS, RTX 4090, Varjo Aero. What I also had was long blackouts of the image while refueling. Really unpredictable, not able to reproduce with any logic. Just close to the tanker and the image went black. One solution was to uninstall Tacview. It was gone afterwards. Then I reinstalled it and it came back. But after some updates. Not instantly. I have Tacview installed currently. Maybe I will uninstall. Do you have Tacview installed too? EDIT: Reading what Flappie says: It seems like the Tacview deinstallation was a placebo. Edited November 1, 2023 by darkman222 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 The black frame issue has been reported internally. It is different from the white flash issue, for the black frame occludes the whole screen, while the white flash appears exactly like the result of a lightning (land and cockpit react to a very strong, distant light). 2 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinobi61 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 any news on this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 The issue is not forgotten but devs haven't found the cause yet. Don't hesitate to attach short tracks demonstrating the issue, because black flickers can be caused by various sources (that's what happened in the past - sometimes caused by mirrors, or ships, or other things). I'll add your tracks to the internal report. 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper81 Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 As mentioned, I have the feeling that it has to do fith the FLIR rendering. If I don't have any FLIR rendering device selected, I never noticed this issue. Does this happent to someone without FLIR image rendering? Even the TV mode for the TGP seems to make no trouble, but as soon as I swicht to FLIR, I always got "black frames"... I know I'm speculating with this, but as we saw, it's not really a black frame. What we saw it that it's a different "time of the day" for one frame or so... The question is why? And my next question is, how do you avoid shadows in the FLIR image? Or in other words: Is it possible that the time is change for rendering the FLIR image, and it's not changed back for the "Main Frame" in time? I know it's a very specualtive Idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper81 Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Hi is this fixed by todays patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Solution BIGNEWY Posted December 19, 2023 ED Team Solution Share Posted December 19, 2023 you should see improvement, please test and give us feedback thanks 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper81 Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Seems to be no issue anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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