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You can see this weird colored powerlines in Caucasus when you fly low and look against a bright, foggy or cloudy background.

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Track: CA UH-1H PowerlinesWiredColoring.trk

Log: dcs.log

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25 minutes ago, AstonMartinDBS said:

You can see this weird colored powerlines in Caucasus when you fly low and look against a bright, foggy or cloudy background.

hello. i may be wrong. this looks like an AA issue. your DLAA is greyed out in the screenshot.

what do you have in NCP for AA?

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45 minutes ago, silverdevil said:

your DLAA is greyed out in the screenshot.

Indeed! I didn't recognice that so far... I'll re-check my settings.

 

45 minutes ago, silverdevil said:

what do you have in NCP for AA?

All default:

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[Modules] A-10C, A-10C II, AH-64D, F-14A/B, F-16C, F/A-18C, FC3, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H, CA, SC
[Maps] PG, NTTR, Normandy, Sinai, Syria, TC

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17 minutes ago, AstonMartinDBS said:

I'll re-check my settings.

Well, changing Upscaling from "DLSS" to "OFF" enabled the drop-down Anti-Aliasing, which I've set to "DLAA".

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But changing this settings didn't solve the issue, the color of the powerlines is still weird:

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When I'm understand the grapical options correct then setting Upscaling from "OFF" to "DLSS" just locks the setting Anti-Aliasing to "DLAA", but doesn't disable it. It wjust greyed-out, but not invisible. This could mean that DLSS is requiring DLAA. Please correct me, if I'm wrong.


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1 hour ago, silverdevil said:

i may be wrong. this looks like an AA issue.

I don't think so. I've tried several AA options (DLAA only, DLAA with DLSS, MSAA 2x, MSAA 4x) - sadly always with the same result.

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37 minutes ago, AstonMartinDBS said:

I don't think so. I've tried several AA options (DLAA only, DLAA with DLSS, MSAA 2x, MSAA 4x) - sadly always with the same result.

more i look, it seems to me an AA issue. try to turn off all the AA settings in DCS. see if there is a change. all sorts of things it could be. i personally do not have this issue.

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10 hours ago, silverdevil said:

try to turn off all the AA settings in DCS. see if there is a change.

  • [NVCP] AA mode: off, [DCS] AA: off -> same issue
  • [NVCP] AA mode: default (application-controlled), [DCS] AA: off -> same issue
  • [NVCP] AA mode: default (application-controlled), [DCS] AA: DLAA, [DCS] UPSCALING: off, [NVCP] AA gamma correction: off -> same issue
  • [NVCP] AA mode: default (application-controlled), [DCS] AA: DLAA, [DCS] UPSCALING: DLSS, [NVCP] AA gamma correction: default -> same issue

 

I also tried to change SHARPENING from 0,5 to 0 and 1, but that hadn't any effect to this issue either.

 

10 hours ago, silverdevil said:

i personally do not have this issue.

Did you watch the whole track (~1 Minute)? Which GPU do you have?

BTW: I'm using the latest nVidia drivers (546.17 DCH)


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2 hours ago, AstonMartinDBS said:

Did you watch the whole track (~1 Minute)? Which GPU do you have?

BTW: I'm using the latest nVidia drivers (546.17 DCH)

sorry i do not have huey so i cannot watch the track. @Flappie may be able to interject. i have a 3090.

have you emptied your shader folders? reinstalled graphics driver? renamed your options.lua to options.lua.bak? restart DCS and it will be recreated.

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33 minutes ago, Flappie said:

I've seen the same issue yesterday. I'm sure it had been fixed at some point (when 2.8 came out, I believe). Here's a track you can try, @silverdevil. Tell us if you see it too.

thanks flappie. i will test today and let y'all know.

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@AstonMartinDBS and @Flappie here is a screenshot taken running flappies track. it seems to happen at certain angles. but this screenshot definitely shows the same white powerlines.

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Thanks for confirming @silverdevil & @Flappie.

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