investigating ai mod aircraft never leave the deck

[Hawkeye60]

As the title states.

Using the ED created aircraft  carrier mod,.

 

add any prop ai aircraft via the saved games location.

Spawn the ai on deck.

All looks as it should so far.

the deck crew get to the spinning hand gesture, but never finish with the launch gesture.

The ai aircraft pops up like it is ready to launch, and sits there,

with its engine running.

This is the same with any prop aircraft mod.

I have not tested and FC3 mods yet.

Notice the wheels spawn in the incorrect position?

This is  new behavior.

I changed the wheel location in the lua which fixed that issue,

But she still will not launch from the ED carrier.

Or any other carrier but  one or two.

And those are not quite right with strange runway behavior.

This is all new since the last few patches.

I hope the fix is a easy one!

@BIGNEWY

The report, as requested.

If you want logs, or a mission and / or track,

I will supply them.

Thanks for the help!

 

[Oban]

I can concur, same issue, also never noticed the tail raise like that once hooked up before.

[Seaside]

Please fix this as soon as possible as it impedes the best resource we have for WW2 gameplay. 

[Oban]

11 minutes ago, Urbi said:

Is this a joke?

Firstly, the animations of ED's carrier are not designed for this type of aircraft and secondly.

I have never seen an aircraft with a propeller and this tricycle design with a kattapult takeoff.

Firstly there's more than ED's carriers out there, some don't have steam driven catapaults, there's also several aircraft that are prop/piston driven that are carrier based/operated, like the ones from the Cuesta brothers, so no, it's not a joke, it's a problem that's only started happening since the last update.

[TeTeT]

2 hours ago, Urbi said:

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I have never seen an aircraft with a propeller and this tricycle design with a kattapult takeoff.

There's no problem with propeller aircraft launching from a cat. See the E-2, C-2, or A-1. But you are right taildraggers are not an option, if you meant this with tricycle.

Pic of a Skyraider with a bridle catapult.

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

there are some community mods creating this issue, please attach your dcs log also so we can take a look. 

thank you

[crazyeddie]

I also have this issue, with the F4U and Bungo's HMAS Melbourne Mod. 

If I set it to Launch from Runway - it appears to work as a Cat launch, but that is misleading because Cat 1 is the first launch point on the runway as such, so thats where it will start from.  Any subsequent aircraft in that flight will stack up behind No 1 and take off in sequence, from wherever they are on the flight deck.  That all works okay. 

If I set it to Launch from Ramp it will taxi to the Cat normally, it appears to try and get the rear wheel into the trap, powers up, blast screen up,  then I also get what is being shown above.   Any subsequent aircraft in that flight are stuck wherever they are on the deck in the taxi routes.

Up until the last update it would actually take off from the Cat, the blast screen dropped but the aircraft always froze in flight about 30 yds in front of the ship.  Any subsequent aircraft in that flight stayed where they were.

There are no issues with any Jets on this ship, its a prop aircraft problem.

My game is very heavily modified so no point in sending you my logs, but I can verify what is being reported above. 

 

[Hawkeye60]

@Urbi

The issue you describe is related to the code assignment of the wheel position.

Since a few patches ago, this was not a issue.

All you need to do is swap the front and rear gear code.

It will place the front wheels at the cat.

But this does not fix the underlying issue of a stalled aircraft.

 

 

@BIGNEWY

I test with minimal mods installed.

Just the ED carrier mod, to allow the WWII birds to use the carriers, and the mod aircraft.

I use the ED carriers to be sure.

I can still post my logs if they might help.

This only affects the prop aircraft.

Jets are fine, As Eddie states above.

[BIGNEWY]

Yes please post your logs, and a track replay example with vanilla units if possible

We are seeing lots of issues currently created by user mods. 

thank you 

[Hawkeye60]

OK, here is a track, and clean logs..

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/mxdyhzl9k0yh09n8vuzw8/prop-aircraft-take-off-test.zip?rlkey=qmhk9ewxk1k2mfpmwwsrqryie&dl=0

Links to the assets used,

 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dhyyvr9ut2fo5muqeqvg3/Macchi-C202-Folgore-Thunderbolt-V1.2.1.zip?rlkey=95wq4wy85ydnmzaahx18lfyxa&dl=0

And the mission.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/uo4fj9nr8yelndj99j6g1/prop-aircraft-take-off-test.miz?rlkey=fxkqyle6ai85bwgtp3s2agdvo&dl=0

Thank you!

 

[Hawkeye60]

I may have found a fix.

Testing shall continue but it is looking much better!

Thanks @BIGNEWY

For looking.

No need to bother the team with this at present.

I will let all know how test goes.

Cheers!

[Seaside]

17 hours ago, Hawkeye60 said:

@BIGNEWY

Is there any news on this?

The issue still persists after todays up-date.

Others have told me the same.

Stalled on deck, engine running.

Never moves.

Thanks!

Issue still exists.

[Hawkeye60]

Not for my new float plane!

Lua edits will be needed to fix any other ai aircraft mods.

Edited December 29, 2023 by Hawkeye60

[Slippa]

I can’t keep up with it all. 

Nice one.

[crazyeddie]

I'm still getting the exact same issues as well, prop aircraft dipping into the flight deck on the cat, tail wobble, tail up in the air, engine up to full power and stuck. 

[BIGNEWY]

We can not test unofficial mods, we simply do not have the time to test dcs core, all ED modules, and all third party modules between patches.

If something has changed however I am happy to ask the team about it. With that said the team are on a break for a week so I will not be able to get any information until after their break. 

thanks

[Hawkeye60]

Thank you for the reply.

I will wait patiently.

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Edited January 2 by Hawkeye60

[BIGNEWY]

I have asked the team to investigate this after their New year break. 

thank you