OH-6A by Tobsen and Eightball

[andyc]

1 hour ago, Slippa said:

I have a green spring in my Warthog. I should look for a softer one really. When I was messing with it I tried it without a spring at all for an hour or so. Silly idea , I should get myself some heli HOTAS probably as I'm getting somewhere with em lately, the huey I'm fine with and this little bird's great. Yet to learn the Apache sytems, same with the Gazelle but I can fly em. Some crackers on their way too (Two weeks ™) .

For now, the green spring with nothing else but the standard Warthog is all I'm using. Marshallmans' curves and clearing out the crazy bindings did it for me. Good luck with it, you'll love it when you can whizz it about .

 

thanks for heads up - i will have to go purchase a spring -  i got mine second hand - so no idea whats currently in it  I'll double check all the bindings....

[Esac_mirmidon]

Im using the green spring with no extension and is ok, but the yellow spring could be a nice option.

Edited May 30, 2024 by Esac_mirmidon

[andyc]

5 hours ago, andyc said:

yeah i had the same and i've cleared all them bindings - but i'll do another double check, the problem appears to be roughly below 60 knots - after that its fine. Does anyone remove the spring on their wh hotas on the cyclic ?? the constant return to center doesn't feel right to me when flying a helicopter... ???

So i definitely do have something wierd going on - and I can't see anything wrong with the bindings ! So in a hover and pulling collective up results in helicopter spinning to right and down and it spins to the left as though the collective is acting as a rudder - now my pedals are assigned to my mfg's. In the bindings window - i do not see this effect at all - ie collective just does collective, mfg just does the pedals... anyone else seen this ?? can i try deleting the config files from the inputs folder for the oh-6a to try and reset it all ???? See screen shot for current config - 

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Just now, andyc said:

So i definitely do have something wierd going on - and I can't see anything wrong with the bindings ! So in a hover and pulling collective up results in helicopter spinning to right and down and it spins to the left as though the collective is acting as a rudder - now my pedals are assigned to my mfg's. In the bindings window - i do not see this effect at all - ie collective just does collective, mfg just does the pedals... anyone else seen this ?? can i try deleting the config files from the inputs folder for the oh-6a to try and reset it all ???? See screen shot for current config - 

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the throttle works fine - and doesn't affect pedals and infact issue was occuring before i even tried assigning that... its definitely the collective acting like pedals

[andyc]

2 hours ago, Esac_mirmidon said:

Im using the green spring with no extension and is ok, but the yellow spring could be a nice option.

 

ordered yellow spring

[andyc]

1 hour ago, andyc said:

So i definitely do have something wierd going on - and I can't see anything wrong with the bindings ! So in a hover and pulling collective up results in helicopter spinning to right and down and it spins to the left as though the collective is acting as a rudder - now my pedals are assigned to my mfg's. In the bindings window - i do not see this effect at all - ie collective just does collective, mfg just does the pedals... anyone else seen this ?? can i try deleting the config files from the inputs folder for the oh-6a to try and reset it all ???? See screen shot for current config - 

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the throttle works fine - and doesn't affect pedals and infact issue was occuring before i even tried assigning that... its definitely the collective acting like pedals

don't have this issue with any other mods... 

[MAXsenna]

I have a green spring in my Warthog. I should look for a softer one really. When I was messing with it I tried it without a spring at all for an hour or so. Silly idea , I should get myself some heli HOTAS probably as I'm getting somewhere with em lately, the huey I'm fine with and this little bird's great. Yet to learn the Apache sytems, same with the Gazelle but I can fly em. Some crackers on their way too (Two weeks ) .
For now, the green spring with nothing else but the standard Warthog is all I'm using. Marshallmans' curves and clearing out the crazy bindings did it for me. Good luck with it, you'll love it when you can whizz it about .
 

If possible, get a 20cm extension, and have it centre mounted. That will probably make it even better.

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[andyc]

6 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

If possible, get a 20cm extension, and have it centre mounted. That will probably make it even better.

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I got a next level racing boeing sim rig - so the stick is already at the correct height

[MAXsenna]

I got a next level racing boeing sim rig - so the stick is already at the correct height

Well, I was answering Slippa, and an extension is not for the height, but better control.

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[Floyd1212]

6 hours ago, andyc said:

So in a hover and pulling collective up results in helicopter spinning to right and down and it spins to the left as though the collective is acting as a rudder

What you describe sounds like the natural effect of added torque on the system when the main rotor is spinning counter-clockwise.  When you increase the collective you will need to apply some left pedal to counter the torque to maintain the same heading.

If you pull up the controls indicator and you actually see the pedal axis moving as you move the collective up and down, then you have some other problem.

[Slippa]

Reading that post myself Andy I was thinking you’d have found what I did. That little nipple button (technical term escapes me) on the throttle, in line with your left middle finger, that little bugger. I’m sure that was bound to either pitch or roll? Or maybe it was the toe-brakes that were? It had me scrabbling about trying to fly this for a couple of days but when I sussed it, with a mixture of help from here and sheer luck of stumbling on it, I tried it out and knew within seconds of taking off it was sorted.

Believe me, I know how frustrating it is. It was driving me nuts. I’m no expert rotor pilot by any stretch but I knew I wasn’t as bad as it was making me look . Before you shell out too much, if all else fails just clear all the bindings for everything and do em all again? Then get the hammer or the wallet out?

I’m passing on the yellow spring advice to Mrs Slippa as it’s coming up for my Birthday . Cheers for the pointer Esac, I’m sure she’ll be over the moon .

Cheers Max for the extension idea too, I’ll have a look but have been drooling over some of the Virpil gear so?

hope you get lucky Andy.

[HoneyBadger]

Sorry if it has been asked already but could we get an option for force trim? I know the real aircraft doesn't have it but it's a really convenient function to have that makes flying helicopters in sims more comfortable.

Edited May 31, 2024 by HoneyBadger

[Devil 505]

2 hours ago, HoneyBadger said:

Sorry if it has been asked already but could we get an option for force trim?

It is coming in his next patch for the OH-6A.  It was on a list of things coming in the next patch.  My buddy found the list today somewhere.

 

[andyc]

7 hours ago, Floyd1212 said:

What you describe sounds like the natural effect of added torque on the system when the main rotor is spinning counter-clockwise.  When you increase the collective you will need to apply some left pedal to counter the torque to maintain the same heading.

If you pull up the controls indicator and you actually see the pedal axis moving as you move the collective up and down, then you have some other problem.

yeah i was pondering that was the actual issue.... 

[Marshallman]

16 hours ago, Slippa said:

I have a green spring in my Warthog. I should look for a softer one really. When I was messing with it I tried it without a spring at all for an hour or so. Silly idea , I should get myself some heli HOTAS probably as I'm getting somewhere with em lately, the huey I'm fine with and this little bird's great. Yet to learn the Apache sytems, same with the Gazelle but I can fly em. Some crackers on their way too (Two weeks ™) .

For now, the green spring with nothing else but the standard Warthog is all I'm using. Marshallmans' curves and clearing out the crazy bindings did it for me. Good luck with it, you'll love it when you can whizz it about .

 

Instead of changing springs Buy an extension, BIG improvement in accuracy.

[andyc]

8 hours ago, Devil 505 said:

It is coming in his next patch for the OH-6A.  It was on a list of things coming in the next patch.  My buddy found the list today somewhere.

 

is there a list of changes upcoming somewhere ?

[Mapi]

3-4 weeks

 

[Mistermann]

This was on the discord page

[Slippa]

6 hours ago, andyc said:

yeah i was pondering that was the actual issue.... 

That’d be ideal, more left rudder and not too quick with the collective, and cheaper .

Looking forward to seeing what’s new in the update. I haven’t seen a list yet but I’ve got a bit protective of our little bird already. I’m feeling guilty for leaving her while I learn the Phantom and between you and me, I’ve got one eye on the Cobra and another on the Kiowa too. Probably shouldn’t be flying anything with my eyes the way they are.

I’ll have a think about extensions. I have desk-mounts with my stick between my legs so it depends how things measure up. Also, well, most of you are probably the same, or will be in time but I keep eyeing up flashy lights and clicky-switches and fancy some peripheral therapy .

Wonder what’s coming in the update now? I really must try to focus.

 

Ah, I was writing while the list was posted. Nice, looking forward to it.

Edited May 31, 2024 by Slippa
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[andyc]

28 minutes ago, Slippa said:

That’d be ideal, more left rudder and not too quick with the collective, and cheaper .

Looking forward to seeing what’s new in the update. I haven’t seen a list yet but I’ve got a bit protective of our little bird already. I’m feeling guilty for leaving her while I learn the Phantom and between you and me, I’ve got one eye on the Cobra and another on the Kiowa too. Probably shouldn’t be flying anything with my eyes the way they are.

I’ll have a think about extensions. I have desk-mounts with my stick between my legs so it depends how things measure up. Also, well, most of you are probably the same, or will be in time but I keep eyeing up flashy lights and clicky-switches and fancy some peripheral therapy .

Wonder what’s coming in the update now? I really must try to focus.

 

Ah, I was writing while the list was posted. Nice, looking forward to it.

 

well the yellow spring was posted today... so change that 1st and then decide if i need an extesion however i think the spring will make a HUGE difference...

[HoneyBadger]

11 hours ago, Devil 505 said:

It is coming in his next patch for the OH-6A.  It was on a list of things coming in the next patch.  My buddy found the list today somewhere.

 

Nice, thanks.

[Scarecrow84]

20 hours ago, Mapi said:

3-4 weeks

 

Is that what Tobi said?

Here is Mover's video on the OH-6 mod, in case anyone missed it...He has flown the aircraft irl.

 

[Mapi]

man - 3-4 falcon-weeks ;o)

[jubuttib]

JEEZ, the new v1.2 flight model makes hovering _butter smooth_! This is now right up there with the post-updates Gazelle as my favorite hovering helicopter, and it's not even actively damped/stabilized!

It was a lot of fun even before, but jeez it's just hecking awesome now.

Edited June 2, 2024 by jubuttib

[MAXsenna]

JEEZ, the new v1.2 flight model makes hovering _butter smooth_! This is now right up there with the post-updates Gazelle as my favorite hovering helicopter, and it's not even actively damped/stabilized!
It was a lot of fun even before, but jeez it's just hecking awesome now.

Now, how did you get that? Compiled it yourself?
Cheers!


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[HawaiianRyan]

9 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Now, how did you get that? Compiled it yourself?
Cheers!


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It's available for download from github.