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3 hours ago, Devil 505 said:

Just out of curiosity, where are you digging up the content for the 3D model/cockpit?  Any chance you will be messing with photogrammetry from a museum piece? If you are in Texas, I believe there are some 

This way we would go if this was a third party module. Texas is far away. We checked if there is a museum piece close enough or with reasonable effort for a hobby project without luck. So we have to stick to pics on the internet and from manuals. I am pretty sure this way we get an enjoyable mod too.

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4 hours ago, tobi said:

This way we would go if this was a third party module. Texas is far away. We checked if there is a museum piece close enough or with reasonable effort for a hobby project without luck. So we have to stick to pics on the internet and from manuals. I am pretty sure this way we get an enjoyable mod to

Really appreciate the heads up.  You are doing a fantastic job and absolutely cannot wait for this to come out.  

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On 1/13/2024 at 8:48 PM, tobi said:

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Looks good to me 🙂.

Wondered if there will be any training missions with it? Cold start etc. or maybe even a little training course to mess around with. I don't wanna make more work for you both though. Could take the project over the two week™️  window. 😉

A bit like CommandT I'm getting more out of these 'community mod' type projects than I do official modules I think? Looking forward to this and the Lanc more than any official module somehow.

Good innit. Well done, keep it up - pardon the pun, makes me wonder if it'll have any auto-hover type settings? Probably didn't have it originally, I dunno?

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This is probably redundant reference material but thought it might come in useful if you do not have it already.  Pulled it from one of my books.  A few door gunner configurations and a livery I would love to see you guys do.

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16 hours ago, Slippa said:

Looks good to me 🙂.

Wondered if there will be any training missions with it? Cold start etc. or maybe even a little training course to mess around with. I don't wanna make more work for you both though. Could take the project over the two week™️  window. 😉

A bit like CommandT I'm getting more out of these 'community mod' type projects than I do official modules I think? Looking forward to this and the Lanc more than any official module somehow.

Good innit. Well done, keep it up - pardon the pun, makes me wonder if it'll have any auto-hover type settings? Probably didn't have it originally, I dunno?

We are working on a cold start training mission.

Auto hover is not planned. You are right it does not have something like that originally. It does not even have something like SAS. You have to fly it by your self completely. That can be challenging, but it's exactly what makes this helicopter so charming for me

9 hours ago, Devil 505 said:

This is probably redundant reference material but thought it might come in useful if you do not have it already.  Pulled it from one of my books.  A few door gunner configurations and a livery I would love to see you guys do.

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Thx for sharing! We have this bag of grenades already implemented 🙂

 

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@tobi

Out of curiosity (may have implications for use) - is your mod a "cosmetic makeover" of a existing module, like a lot of the FC3 based mods are (is that even possible for helicopters?), or is it a completely original mod like the A-4 for example, including its flight model?

Forgive me if that was answered earlier and I missed it!

Either way, I'm very excited for it and appreciate your efforts!!! 


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"Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"

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Amazing! I thought we might never see a good OH-6 in DCS. After watching progress on this mod for a while now, I finally logged in to say that I’m fully stoked and ready for this. My dad used to work on these in Vietnam and I fly the Cowansim 500e in MSFS more than anything else; mostly dropping smoke in areas nothing else can reach. I’ve been patiently waiting for a good version of this in DCS more than any other module (except maybe the F-117).

Also, please recommend the best scenery/mission mods, since detailed LZ environment is going to be critical for this bird. I may try my hand at creating some since I have prior scenery experience.

Keep up the good work!


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7 hours ago, Hiob said:

@tobi

Out of curiosity (may have implications for use) - is your mod a "cosmetic makeover" of a existing module, like a lot of the FC3 based mods are (is that even possible for helicopters?), or is it a completely original mod like the A-4 for example, including its flight model?

Forgive me if that was answered earlier and I missed it!

Either way, I'm very excited for it and appreciate your efforts!!! 

 

It is standalone

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On 1/15/2024 at 12:41 AM, tobi said:

This way we would go if this was a third party module. Texas is far away. We checked if there is a museum piece close enough or with reasonable effort for a hobby project without luck. So we have to stick to pics on the internet and from manuals. I am pretty sure this way we get an enjoyable mod too.

Quick question, is the below video the OH-6 in action you are working?  It was on Eight Ball's YouTube Channel.

 

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16 hours ago, Devil 505 said:

Quick question, is the below video the OH-6 in action you are working?  It was on Eight Ball's YouTube Channel.

 

Handling qualities look promising! Any plans for a VR pilot body in the pit?

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On 1/15/2024 at 1:48 AM, CommandT said:

Guys, this looks truly outstanding!!! I'm not sure I've been this excited about a new "module". We have a serious lack of little fun helicopters in DCS. Something you can throw around between the trees! Absolutely can't wait.

Could I ask, is there a virtual pilot body planned? And with regards to the flight model - is this built from the ground up or is it limited in some way by DCS's code as it's a mod? How close to the real thing would we expect it to handle? Huey being a benchmark in terms of a realistic FM, would this be in the same ballpark? 

Many Thanks! Please keep up the great work! Can't wait to make some videos with this 🙂

Hard to judge on this but I put a lot of focus on the FM. It uses a detailed dynamic main rotor simulation and the fuselage aerodynamics are based on wind tunnel data. Downwash of the main rotor has impact on the empenage aerodynamics. In addition to that I spend some time to test the FM against flighttest reports. I am quite happy with the results.

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1 hour ago, tobi said:

Hard to judge on this but I put a lot of focus on the FM. It uses a detailed dynamic main rotor simulation and the fuselage aerodynamics are based on wind tunnel data. Downwash of the main rotor has impact on the empenage aerodynamics. In addition to that I spend some time to test the FM against flighttest reports. I am quite happy with the results.

Thanks for the response! Very excited to fly it. Do we have a ballpark release date-ish? 

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3 hours ago, tobi said:

Hard to judge on this but I put a lot of focus on the FM. It uses a detailed dynamic main rotor simulation and the fuselage aerodynamics are based on wind tunnel data. Downwash of the main rotor has impact on the empenage aerodynamics. In addition to that I spend some time to test the FM against flighttest reports. I am quite happy with the results.

Impressive!

Can‘t wait to try it.

"Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"

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Oh boy! Something that I have been waiting for forever is finally coming to pass. The OH-6A Cayuse scout has been one of my absolute favorite aircraft of all times. A few years back I obtained a Cayuse static plastic model by 21st Century Toys in GI-Joe scale (1/6th). Being a lifelong modeler, I went about reconfiguring as much as I could ending a years worth of work with something I like and has won show awards. To get there, I got as many references I could find....such as the December 1976 TM for the OH-6A (Operators Manual) # 55-1520-214-10. I am making it available to you for this project should you need. 

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16 minutes ago, Wulf103 said:

Oh boy! Something that I have been waiting for forever is finally coming to pass. The OH-6A Cayuse scout has been one of my absolute favorite aircraft of all times. A few years back I obtained a Cayuse static plastic model by 21st Century Toys in GI-Joe scale (1/6th). Being a lifelong modeler, I went about reconfiguring as much as I could ending a years worth of work with something I like and has won show awards. To get there, I got as many references I could find....such as the December 1976 TM for the OH-6A (Operators Manual) # 55-1520-214-10. I am making it available to you for this project should you need. 

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Would love to see some photos of the 1/6th scale you built on here. Appreciate you throwing this up for the mod devs.  I am sure there is some good stuff in there they could use.  Great to be part of a community that has access to this stuff still.

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9 hours ago, Wulf103 said:

Oh boy! Something that I have been waiting for forever is finally coming to pass. The OH-6A Cayuse scout has been one of my absolute favorite aircraft of all times. A few years back I obtained a Cayuse static plastic model by 21st Century Toys in GI-Joe scale (1/6th). Being a lifelong modeler, I went about reconfiguring as much as I could ending a years worth of work with something I like and has won show awards. To get there, I got as many references I could find....such as the December 1976 TM for the OH-6A (Operators Manual) # 55-1520-214-10. I am making it available to you for this project should you need. 

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Very interesting! i would love to see some pics of your model too! We got a copy of the manual already. Thank you

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On 1/11/2024 at 12:29 AM, tobi said:

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Any chance we could get a sneak preview of flight from the cockpit, or is that not quite ready to show yet? The anticipation is growing daily! Cant wait for this mod. 

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2 hours ago, Devil 505 said:

Any chance we could get a sneak preview of flight from the cockpit, or is that not quite ready to show yet? The anticipation is growing daily! Cant wait for this mod. 

 

There are some more "older" videos on the discord channel

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looks like a little fidgety Philipp 👍🙃

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Neo

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