DLSS "update"

[jnr4817]

Has anyone experienced switching from upscaling using dlss back to off and the game still appears to be in dlss mode. I’m using dlaa always. 

[Czar66]

19 minutes ago, jnr4817 said:

Has anyone experienced switching from upscaling using dlss back to off and the game still appears to be in dlss mode. I’m using dlaa always. 

DLAA and DLSS looks very similar but you can easily see their difference with a simple test. Both cast ghosting.
Set a tanker or fighter 5nm from you in the editor:

In DLSS its shape will be warped and distorted more than in DLAA.

In 1080p DLSS is horrible for target ID while DLAA seems to be very good.

It can be a confusion between the two. I'll test this one and report back.

Edit: I could disable DLSS in the same session without restarting DCS keeping DLAA on.

Edited June 21, 2024 by Czar66

[Bigity]

Should I still be using preset F or did E take over as the 'best'?

[mmike87]

6 hours ago, Bigity said:

Should I still be using preset F or did E take over as the 'best'?

I have tried them all and I think that E gives me the best results. It seemed to have less motion blur.

[scommander2]

On 7/20/2024 at 12:26 AM, BunyipBilly said:

DLSS 3.72 Now Released , I tried it and seems to work ok!

Just wondering when ED will update nvngx_dlss.dll?

[Rufuz64]

On 8/31/2024 at 4:58 AM, scommander2 said:

Just wondering when ED will update nvngx_dlss.dll?

Now that you mention it... I already had 3.7.2. Now I checked, it was 3.7.0 again
Will a patch put it back?

[Bigity]

1 hour ago, Rufuz64 said:

Now that you mention it... I already had 3.7.2. Now I checked, it was 3.7.0 again
Will a patch put it back?

Yes

[coldViPer]

I use Ovgme for this new 3.7.2.0 file, I treat it like a mod and always disable it before DCS update.

[zildac]

3 hours ago, coldViPer said:

I use Ovgme for this new 3.7.2.0 file, I treat it like a mod and always disable it before DCS update.

Exactly this

[slughead]

6 hours ago, zildac said:

Exactly this

Snap.

[Rufuz64]

On 10/21/2024 at 8:10 AM, coldViPer said:

I use Ovgme for this new 3.7.2.0 file, I treat it like a mod and always disable it before DCS update.

Is it necessary to deactivate OVGME mods before a patch? I thought you only had to enable it on again afterwards?

[slughead]

6 minutes ago, Rufuz64 said:

Is it necessary to deactivate OVGME mods before a patch? I thought you only had to enable it on again afterwards?

If you don't deactivate them, the patch will / may overwrite the OVGME mod files. So you are left with OVGME thinking the mods are still active. When you try to reinstall the OVGME mods, you will have to uninstall the active mods first. Doing so will install the pre-patch changes. So you're left in quite a mess if you do not deactivate the OVGME mods before installing any DCS patches.

I always uninstall any OVGME-installed mods and then perform a repair to ensure the base files are as they should be before any patches are installed.

[Apache 64]

Version 3.8.10 released. Brought me significantly less ghosting. You should try this version. So far I am very satisfied.

[Tango3B]

52 minutes ago, Apache 64 said:

Version 3.8.10 released. Brought me significantly less ghosting. You should try this version. So far I am very satisfied.

Just tested and confirmed. I would even go so far as to say that 3.8.10 almost completely eliminates ghosting in DCS. At least it does on my system. Looks really good. In any case, I would suggest that this nvngx_dlss.dll be included in future updates as a significant improvement is observable. I would kindly request that ED test this version more thoroughly and then consider including this version in future patches if necessary.

[sleighzy]

Yup. This release removed all the presets except for E and F. DCS used to use C, but now this is defaulting to E. No more need to use DLSSTweaks to override the preset (unless you still want to use it for updating other values / debug overlay).

[KCOOL]

Was D better for image quality?

3.7.20 with D

vs

3.8.20 with default E?

[sleighzy]

17 minutes ago, KCOOL said:

Was D better for image quality?

3.7.20 with D

vs

3.8.20 with default E?

Don't know. DCS was always using C if not overridden. I'd only honestly tried E and F if memory serves me correctly (in VR), and stuck with F at the time like a lot of folk. Were you using D?

Edited November 14, 2024 by sleighzy

[KCOOL]

21 hours ago, sleighzy said:

Don't know. DCS was always using C if not overridden. I'd only honestly tried E and F if memory serves me correctly (in VR), and stuck with F at the time like a lot of folk. Were you using D?

 

I used d for vr with good results (quality) 3.7, less fps than e

I tried e with 3.8 and not sure this was better in visual fidelity. I believe great in smoothness and no ghosting.

I run 4090 at 200 render wmr, quad views and 13600k. Reverb g2 v2. 55-65 fps with default 3.8.2 and DLAA.

 

Edited November 15, 2024 by KCOOL

[Bigity]

Oh yea this version is much better.

[Mustang]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidias-latest-dlss-3-8-10-version-features-only-two-presets-preset-e-and-preset-f-chipmaker-trimmed-the-dll-file-size-by-more-than-50-percent

[BlackReef]

Now that I have placed the latest nvngx_dlss.dll in my bin-mt and bin directory, can I remove the DLSSTweaksConfig app?

It's confusing me bcause I have the 3.8.10 DLL file in the bin/bin-mt folders now but if I open DLSSTweaksConfig App, it is still showing me preset options A,B,C,D,E,F,G

 

[Rufuz64]

I think DLSSTweaksConfig is not updated yet and you should only use Preset E or F.

[scommander2]

A silly question:  can I simply drop the dll file under bin/mt-bin without using DLSSTweaksConfig? Thanks.

[BlackReef]

26 minutes ago, scommander2 said:

A silly question:  can I simply drop the dll file under bin/mt-bin without using DLSSTweaksConfig? Thanks.

I believe this is correct.  That's what I did

6 hours ago, Rufuz64 said:

I think DLSSTweaksConfig is not updated yet and you should only use Preset E or F.

Thanks, so if I do not use DLSSTweaksConfig to choose preset, how do I choose preset then?  Is it as simple as in DCS I go to graphic options in-sim?

• Quality → Preset E
• Performance → Preset F

[sleighzy]

4 hours ago, BlackReef said:

I believe this is correct.  That's what I did

Thanks, so if I do not use DLSSTweaksConfig to choose preset, how do I choose preset then?  Is it as simple as in DCS I go to graphic options in-sim?

• Quality → Preset E
• Performance → Preset F

DCS will use preset E for Performance, Balanced, Quality. The "Ultra Performance" option in the dropdown will set preset F.

Edited November 15, 2024 by sleighzy