F-2 Posted March 12, 2024 Posted March 12, 2024 38 minutes ago, okopanja said: Let's wait for Mig-29A in its original form, but I would not go so far to claim we will not see sub-variants based on upgrades. We know that DCS allows for sub-variants within the same module (several examples already), so I would not be too surprised if this occurs with Mig-29 in future. Upgrades that were offered or implemented did range from under-the-hood changes (e.g. making longer ranged more ECM resistant radar capable of guiding R-77), toward relatively minor cockpit modifications (e.g. replaced HUD repeater with MFI-55) toward really comprehensive changes where the cockpit is radically changed (SMT). SMT 9.18 uses the 9.13 airframe and no hump and similar performance. The radar manual for the export Yemeni version has been publicly available for around a decade like the manuals being used for this module. Maybe that, we would have a 9.12B to correspond with the FC3 9.12 and a 9.18 to correspond with the FC3 9.13S.
Alfa Posted March 12, 2024 Posted March 12, 2024 1 hour ago, F-2 said: SMT 9.18 uses the 9.13 airframe and no hump and similar performance. The radar manual for the export Yemeni version has been publicly available for around a decade like the manuals being used for this module. Maybe that, we would have a 9.12B to correspond with the FC3 9.12 and a 9.18 to correspond with the FC3 9.13S. it uses the 9.12 airframe actually: Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29SMT (9-12) - Russia - Air Force | Aviation Photo #1297445 | Airliners.net So no hump(not even the small one of the 9.13), but has the "swing-out" IFR probe typical of the SMT variants. 1 1 JJ
F-2 Posted March 12, 2024 Posted March 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Alfa said: it uses the 9.12 airframe actually: Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29SMT (9-12) - Russia - Air Force | Aviation Photo #1297445 | Airliners.net So no hump(not even the small one of the 9.13), but has the "swing-out" IFR probe typical of the SMT variants. Thanks man! probably even easier then. Classic airframe and much more modernized avonics.
Alfa Posted March 12, 2024 Posted March 12, 2024 1 hour ago, F-2 said: Thanks man! probably even easier then. Classic airframe and much more modernized avonics. You are welcome . Yeah my thoughts exactly . a nice looking SMT with the new cockpit and upgraded systems, but without that ugly hump of 9.19. I guess its sort of the "budget" version of the SMT and I cannot remember whether it has the upgraded version of the N019 radar(N019MP) or the Zhuk-ME...probably the latter though it could be a customer option. 1 JJ
F-2 Posted March 12, 2024 Posted March 12, 2024 2 hours ago, Alfa said: You are welcome . Yeah my thoughts exactly . a nice looking SMT with the new cockpit and upgraded systems, but without that ugly hump of 9.19. I guess its sort of the "budget" version of the SMT and I cannot remember whether it has the upgraded version of the N019 radar(N019MP) or the Zhuk-ME...probably the latter though it could be a customer option. It has the Zhuk-ME, I’ve got the manual.
Harlikwin Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 13 hours ago, draconus said: Any upgrade makes it a different variant. We're only getting MiG-29A 9.12, that's all there is to it. Well, the general standard for models in 3rd parties is 2-3 variants or time frames at least. Look at razbam with different suites for the F15, Heatblur with 2 F14's (so far, maybe more "tm"), or Aerges with what 3 delivered and one more coming variants for the F1. Seems like the ED value proposition makes them seem like a bit of a piker in the contemporary sense... New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
draconus Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 5 hours ago, Harlikwin said: Well, the general standard for models in 3rd parties is 2-3 variants or time frames at least. Look at razbam with different suites for the F15, Heatblur with 2 F14's (so far, maybe more "tm"), or Aerges with what 3 delivered and one more coming variants for the F1. Seems like the ED value proposition makes them seem like a bit of a piker in the contemporary sense... Yes, but it's ED's and nothing of more variants was hinted. Not that they couldn't because of time and money but I suspect more because of what they could legally simulate in full fidelity. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
okopanja Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 24 minutes ago, draconus said: Yes, but it's ED's and nothing of more variants was hinted. Not that they couldn't because of time and money but I suspect more because of what they could legally simulate in full fidelity. A good Software Architect will identify the need to cover the possibility of covering the multiple sub-variants of the 9.12 and in particular those that can be added with minimal effort in near future. This not only works toward user benefits but also cost savings for the ED as company. Some of those sub-variants require more effort and/or mean legal issues, but there are those which are likely not that troublesome to add at later time. Fortunately the later also include the improved processing of radar and ability to support R-77, and even limited multi-role capability. Overall these less capable variants certainly will not pose a larger threat to much more modern modules that are already in the game, but will enable more capable players to utilize them in more modern scenarios without being a plane cannon fodder.
Alfa Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 18 hours ago, F-2 said: It has the Zhuk-ME, I’ve got the manual. You got the manual?! - that sounds interesting. 1 JJ
bies Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 On 3/12/2024 at 1:27 PM, strelok2014 said: DCS: F/A-18C lot 20, F-16C block 50 and F-15E Suite4E+ has engines, radars and avionics 1992+. After 1990-1991 and the collapse of the Soviet Union, the development of military equipment in the USSR/Russia stopped abruptly. So, i think the best and fair timeline is <1989 (before aim-120, R-27ER(ET), R-77): F-86F, F-100D, F-104, F-5E, AJS37, A-4E, Mirage F1, A-7E, F-4E, IAI Kfir, A-10A, F-15C, F-14A/B, AV-8B(NA), Mirage 2000C. (AIM-7M, AIM-54A(C), AIM-9M and old) MiG-15bis, MiG-17F, MiG-19P, MiG-21bis, MiG-23MLA, MiG-29A (9-12), Su-25, Su-27P (R-24R(T), R-27R(T), R-60M, R-73 and old) 100% agree. 1980s was the last time when some kind of natural balance existed IRL and Soviet aircrafts could put up a fight. Both in tactical engagements and on a strategic scale. And "artificail" balancing is not a job of a simulator, its job is to pick the spots/timeframes where some kind of real life balance occured naturally, like WW1, WW2, Cold War air campaigns of Korea, Vietnam, Middle East wars like Iraq-Iran war etc. Before the 1990s AMRAAM, R-27ER, Link16 etc and collapse of the Soviets. 1980s with a mix of a bit older 1970s and brand new 1980s aircrafts like full fidelity F-14A/B, Mirage F.1, Huey, Gazelle L, MiG-21bis, L-39, C-101, MB-339, F-5E, Mi-8, Mi-24, Bolkov-105, Tornado IDS, Kfir, F-4E, MiG-23MLA, MiG-29A, A-7E, A-6E, with low fi FC3 A-10A, Su-25A, F-15C, Su-27S is one of such sweet spots. AJS-37 Viggen and Mirage 2000 could nearly squeeze as well into the 1980s with small modifications. Early Cold War with MiG-15bis, F-86, G.91, MiG-17, MiG-19, F-100, F-104, A-1 would be the other one. That's why MiG-29 9.12 is a perfect variant, fitting the timeframe with the biggest number of DCS modules. 2
Ronin_Gaijin Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 Instead of thinking about extra variants, can we please ask from ED, a full spec, ready on release module? Including the Biryuza. 7 1 Авиабаза 1521, Мары - Центр боевого применения | Airbase 1521, Mary - Combat Operations Center
Ramius007 Posted April 6, 2024 Posted April 6, 2024 (edited) Sweet spot for Mig-29A will be REAL 80's setup, propably on Persian Gulf or Syria map, we can get milsim like order of battle on those 2 maps, with Tomcat, both Eagles, both Mirages, Migs, Phantom and some older cold war airframes, excluding everything with datalinks (even Flankers) and Litening pod (maybe except Harrier) this would be healthy balanced DCS MP setup, what exact missiles type we get is irrelevant, becouse Mig in XXI centaury will be obsolete in every role, even with ER/ET, but against planes with similar limited situational awerness it will be competetive and blast to fly. Also small thing, but seems nobody noticed, our FC3 Mig dont have HD bombs except KGMU and antirunway one currently, with Mig crazy performance, low altidue strikes will be chellenging, but also fun if we get more unguided ordenace that can be fired just from over the tree line Edited April 6, 2024 by Ramius007 2
Seaeagle Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 16 hours ago, Ramius007 said: Sweet spot for Mig-29A will be REAL 80's setup, propably on Persian Gulf or Syria map, Except that; - the 9.12A that we are getting is the Warsaw Pact export variant, which wasn't supplied to applicaple nations until the very end of the 80'ies and as such actually better suited for an early 90'ies scenario. - The Warsaw Pact nations were all in Eastern Europe, while nations in the Middle East(such as Iraq, Iran and Syria) that operrate MiG-29s got the lower spec 9.12B variant or/and got them later. Probably not the biggest realism omissions for your suggested scenario, but a "REAL 80's setup"......not quite.:) 2
AeriaGloria Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, Seaeagle said: Except that; - the 9.12A that we are getting is the Warsaw Pact export variant, which wasn't supplied to applicaple nations until the very end of the 80'ies and as such actually better suited for an early 90'ies scenario. - The Warsaw Pact nations were all in Eastern Europe, while nations in the Middle East(such as Iraq, Iran and Syria) that operrate MiG-29s got the lower spec 9.12B variant or/and got them later. Probably not the biggest realism omissions for your suggested scenario, but a "REAL 80's setup"......not quite.:) It’s not much of an immersion breaker for me to consider it a Soviet version since performance is identical. For MiG-29 9.12b, I think the main difference is different IFF unit that requires manual interrogation. So you need to press “ZANPOC/break lock” button to identify, and the panel is clearly different in cockpit. But that’s also a small difference in my book. These first three pictures are 9.12B with Parol IFF. Last 4 are 9.12A. Different between the round IFF selector with codes, and IFF you would be more familiar with in say Mi-24P module Edited April 7, 2024 by AeriaGloria 1 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
F-2 Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 The 9.12B has a weaker processor but it has the same range as the Soviet and Warsaw pact version per overscan.
Ramius007 Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 11 hours ago, Seaeagle said: Except that; - the 9.12A that we are getting is the Warsaw Pact export variant, which wasn't supplied to applicaple nations until the very end of the 80'ies and as such actually better suited for an early 90'ies scenario. - The Warsaw Pact nations were all in Eastern Europe, while nations in the Middle East(such as Iraq, Iran and Syria) that operrate MiG-29s got the lower spec 9.12B variant or/and got them later. Probably not the biggest realism omissions for your suggested scenario, but a "REAL 80's setup"......not quite.:) yeah, even Viggen and M2k we have in game are early 90's modernizations, but lets call this Gulf War like scenario, so no Fox3, no INS/GPS based munition, INS navigation, no omni datalinka but with awacs, peak of cold war technology
HWasp Posted May 16, 2024 Posted May 16, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 2:36 PM, Seaeagle said: Except that; - the 9.12A that we are getting is the Warsaw Pact export variant, which wasn't supplied to applicaple nations until the very end of the 80'ies and as such actually better suited for an early 90'ies scenario. - The Warsaw Pact nations were all in Eastern Europe, while nations in the Middle East(such as Iraq, Iran and Syria) that operrate MiG-29s got the lower spec 9.12B variant or/and got them later. Probably not the biggest realism omissions for your suggested scenario, but a "REAL 80's setup"......not quite.:) It's not really possible to build good scenarios without such compromises in DCS... For me, any 9.12 is perfect for the 80ies. 2
Harlikwin Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 5:38 PM, F-2 said: The 9.12B has a weaker processor but it has the same range as the Soviet and Warsaw pact version per overscan. The export version was also missing one of the autonomous search modes. Range is a funky thing as well because of course it depends on processing alot in some cases but not others, i.e. in lookup it should have similar performance to the regular soviet radar. But in the presence of clutter or jamming I would expect that weaker processor to have significant problems and not process as well or use simpler processing schema, hence more clutter. IIRC mig29 pilots of the 9.12 reported a good bit of clutter issues over radar/radio reflective terrain i.e. cities/marshes/swamps and so forth. Similarly, for the IRST, the consensus was that it was worthless as a search instrument, but worked quite well with the helmet in WVR missile cueing. Though ED would have to actually build an IR/IRST model for that, and I'm not really hopeful about it. 1 New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
okopanja Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 20 minutes ago, Harlikwin said: Range is a funky thing as well because of course it depends on processing alot in some cases but not others, i.e. in lookup it should have similar performance to the regular soviet radar. But in the presence of clutter or jamming I would expect that weaker processor to have significant problems and not process as well or use simpler processing schema, hence more clutter. IIRC mig29 pilots of the 9.12 reported a good bit of clutter issues over radar/radio reflective terrain i.e. cities/marshes/swamps and so forth. Range can be entered manually based on the feedback from GCI. Also if the information is not provided, the pilot is supposed to enter the certain value himself. So trajectories and calculation of trajectories does not have to be entirely the way it is in DCS. On 4/8/2024 at 1:38 AM, F-2 said: The 9.12B has a weaker processor but it has the same range as the Soviet and Warsaw pact version per overscan. My understanding is that 9.12A and 9.12B have the same processor. Later the faster processor combo was created and this was built-in into the later version. At some point these processors were offered as part of the upgrade package that also enabled R-77 and many other useful stuff. 1
F-2 Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 16 minutes ago, Harlikwin said: The export version was also missing one of the autonomous search modes. Range is a funky thing as well because of course it depends on processing alot in some cases but not others, i.e. in lookup it should have similar performance to the regular soviet radar. But in the presence of clutter or jamming I would expect that weaker processor to have significant problems and not process as well or use simpler processing schema, hence more clutter. IIRC mig29 pilots of the 9.12 reported a good bit of clutter issues over radar/radio reflective terrain i.e. cities/marshes/swamps and so forth. Similarly, for the IRST, the consensus was that it was worthless as a search instrument, but worked quite well with the helmet in WVR missile cueing. Though ED would have to actually build an IR/IRST model for that, and I'm not really hopeful about it. As I understand it SP mode is also removed from later build Soviet Fulcrums as well and was not generally used in practice Quote Mode "SP" (Svobodnoye Prostranstvo) Free Search According to Russian pilots this mode was only found on early production Russian MiG-29s. It was a search mode, and was removed on later production batches. It was not present on any export MiG-29s. The name suggests it might have been a non-lookdown mode, but this is speculation. Your right about processor, though I understand it both were considered insufficient until N019m. The manual ED use I believe is for export aircraft. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2378427/ in theory that is enough for an ultra real radar model and it describes N019B in great detail. They could probably estimate the difference in performance due to processor speed. I don’t think in terms of operations per second N019 and N019EB are that different, like 170,000-200,000 compared to 400,000 in N019M on the Mig-29S. The only available manual newer then the above is ironically the zhuk-me so it can’t be directly compared.
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Irisz Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 (edited) Two interesting descriptions of the MiG-29's radars! The range of the MiG-29S radar could be corrected based on this in the DCS World because it underperforms! Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29A izdeliye 9-12 - The Red Eagle is Born The first ever production variant of the MiG-29 is the MiG-29A izdeliye 9-12, also known as “izdeliye 5” to confuse Western intelligence. Official production of this variant commenced in 1982, however the first batches were rolled out in 1979 and 1980. On the basis of this variant became the entirety of the legendary Fulcrum series and the main export variants that were delivered to some nations of the Warsaw Pact and less trusted allies such as Iraq. This is the baseline feature, in a way not the Fulcrum they were fully expecting. While it did receive the intended RPLK-29 system (built around the N019 Rubin radar), plans were already drawn for a much better version with the in-house designation of izdeliye 9-13S that was being tested less than a year later in 1983, which later became the izdeliye 9-13S (the MiG-29S). Despite this, the MiG-29A was still a production variant that served the Soviet Air Force. On the 11th of June, 1987, an order was issued to officially induct the MiG-29 into service, though it had achieved operational capabilities in 1983. Most of the batches were split into 15 examples, though it was 30 sometimes. The first 70 examples had small ventral fins outboard of the engine nacelles to improve the spinning characteristics of the engines. The batches that were rolled out in 1984 had the automatic bank corrector which rendered those small ventral fins unnecessary. The MiG-29A was powered by two Tumansky RD-33 engines with 5,040 kgf of thrust on regular power and 8,340 kgf on afterburner, each. The climb rate of the MiG-29A was an impressive 330 meters per second, and it could go up to 1,480 km/h at low altitude. Technically 1,500 km/h, but that’s when flying in it became really really dangerous. Its top speed was 2,450 km/h at 11,000 m, and the service ceiling was 17,000 m. One of the features that definitively decided the MiG-29A’s title as a fourth generation fighter is its WCS & FCS. Its targeting system was the RPLK-29, built around the Phazotron N019 Rubin radar that was decidedly superior to contemporary western systems of that time. The maximum detection range of a fighter in open air space was proven to be 75 km, while the AN/APG-66 of the F-16A fell short by 35 km, measuring at 40 km max. In look-down/shoot-down modes, the maximum detection range was 65 km in head-on situations and 35 km when in pursuit. It was a very capable radar with impressive look-down/shoot-down capabilities. The scan limit in azimuth was ±67º and +60º plus -38º in elevation. The maximum range it attempts to search at is 150 km (not the range it detects targets at; for example the MiG-23MLD’s radar goes as far as to 90 km to search but doesn’t find targets past 70 - 80 km). There were six modes: High PRF: this is the main search mode, which gives a detection range of fighter-sized targets between 50 and 75 km (can reach 100 km in open air space), and tracking range between 40 and 60 km at high altitude, however below 3 km of altitude it falls shorter by 10 km in both detection and tracking. It has a 130º scan area which is divided into left, center and right sectors; the left sector scans between -65º to -15º, center covers -25º to +25º and right sector from +15º to +65º. Medium PRF: a mode used in pursuit engagements only when necessary since it’s prone to ground clutter and displaying false targets, at which point the pilot has to visibly identify them. It detects and tracks targets between 20 and 35 km above 3 km of altitude, and below that, the detection range is 20 - 35 km and tracking is 18 - 35 km. At extremely low altitudes (500 m) the range is 15 - 30 km of detection/search and 13 - 25 km of tracking. Scan coverage in azimuth 40º and 16.5º in elevation. If the range of a detected aircraft is above 20 km, scan coverage becomes 30º in azimuth and 13.5º in elevation. SP Free Search: this is a mode that substitutes the “High PRF” mode when in dense ECM environments as it has ECCM capabilities. BLBOY / Tracking Mode: much like the western aircraft, the Soviets employed a dedicated “ACM” mode to acquire and track targets. “BLBOY” is short for “Bleyzhni Boy” which means “Close Combat”, and it has a target acquisition and tracking range of 250 m - 10 km achievable through a fixed targeting ahead vertical scan of + 37º/ -13º Track-While-Flyby (TWF): used in conjunction with High PRF, this is the mode that allows the tracking of 10 targets simultaneously (albeit still cannot engage more than one target at once). It also allows the missiles to be launched at their best possible ranges while minmizing warning. AVT: the last but not least is AVT or the automatic mode, which combines both High and Medium PRF to achieve optimal performance and displays a range of 100 km on the HUD. However, TWF is not available when using this one. When attacking with the cannon, here is a brochure from MiG detailing the gunnery modes 10 available. The optoelectronic sighting and navigation system, designated OEPrNK-29, includes the optical-electronic sighting system designated as the “OEPS-29”, which basically includes the aircraft’s IRST by the designation of “KOLS”, with up to 15 km of detection range against aerial targets, while the range of the laser rangefinder included in the system had a range measured at 6 km (Azimuth 30 ‘/ - 30’ or 15 ‘/ - 15’ elevation 15 ‘/ - 15’). It was also capable of slaving heat-seekers, feeding its missiles the coordinates of the bogies to allow them to track better initially while also passively attacking the enemy. Moreover, this sighting and navigation system also has the: SN-29 navigation system Schchel-U3M helmet mounted sight (HMS) SUO-29M weapons selector SEI-31 joint indication system (JIS) ILS-31 heads-up-display (HUD) FKP-EU gun camera Along with all these avionic systems, the impressive Schchel-3UM helmet-mounted sight was inducted. This helmet could slave heat-seeking missiles (mainly the R-73) just by aiming the pilot’s head / helmet at the target, and at this point every Soviet fighter had the tail protection system, a system with the purpose of defending the aircraft’s rear. It allowed the R-73 to be launched from the rear, giving it a full 360 degree FOV! It also came equipped with the SPO-15LM Beryoza RWR. However, it lacked a comprehensive ECM suite. It was supposed to come equipped with the Gardeniya-F1U jammer, and this was later remedied on later production models. Other avionics include the SRZP-1 IFF interrogator and the SRO-1P transponder. Coupled with the radar were of course the R-27 air-to-air missiles for beyond-visual range combat, which came in two versions: the R-27T infrared-homing model and the R-27R semi-active radar-homing model. These were efficient, long-ranged missiles with 50 km and 60 km of range in head-on mode respectively. In pursuit, the R-27T’s maximum range was measured at 20 km, while the R-27R capped at 27 km. Moreover, it had a maneuverability of 24G. Though similar to the R-24 in such terms, it had a lower launch range of 300 m instead of 500 m, making it a true dogfight missile. Furthermore, much like its predecessor (the R-24R), it had an inverse monopulse seeker. The MiG-29A’s usual air-to-air loadouts were four R-73A and two R-27R/T missiles, or two R-60M, two R-73A and two R-27R/T. The R-73A was an extremely agile dogfight missile, capable of attacking targets pulling up to 12G! This is thanks to the thrust-vectoring system. The seeker was also capable of detecting targets at approximately 20 km and could track at a whopping 60°/s. The maneuverability of the R-73A was measured at 45G, and it did not have a launch limit. On the newer models such as the R-73M found on the MiG-29S (+), the maneuverability was improved to 50-60G thanks to improvements to the aerodynamics of the missile. However, unlike the later models, it did not come with the R-77 active radar-homing missile to pit it up against fighters armed with the AIM-120A/C, neither the extended range R-27ER and R-27ET missiles. One should also not forget that despite the MiG-29 initially being intended for air superiority only (they underestimated the need for a secondary CAS role, improved on later models), it was still capable of attacking ground targets. Such loadouts included up to four 500 kg FAB-500M54 or FAB-500M62 bombs, or four 500 kg ZB-500 napalm bombs, up to six FAB-250 or sixteen OFAB-100 or 120 kg OFAB-120s. As for unguided rockets, up to four S-24 240mm heavy unguided rockets could be carried or four UB-32A-73 rocketpods totalling 128 rockets or 80 S-8 rockets in B-8M1 rocketpods. The manufacturer set an AoA limit of 26° on the aircraft, however in the VVS the imposed limit was 24° to ensure pilot safety. Its maneuverability at an altitude of 3,000 m with 50% fuel was 23.5 deg/° and this was achieved with the help of the leading edge flaps. For reference, the F/A-18C and Mirage 2000-5 maneuver at 20 deg/°, and the F-16C at 21.5 deg/°. The maximum airframe G limit was 9G, but the max G force in a turn was 7G. Comparatively, the F-16C, F/A-18C and EF2000’s maximum G force in turns were 6.2G, 6.4G and 7G respectively. Thanks to the Tumansky RD-33 engines with 5,040 kgf and 8,300 kgf (without and with afterburners), its maximum rate of climb was an impressive 330 m/s, better than all four previously mentioned western fighters. It took the MiG-29 around 13.5 seconds to reach 1,000 km/h from 600 km/h. Its top speed was 2,450 km/h at 11,000 m and 1,480 km/h at sea level. As a fourth generation fighter, it was of course armed with countermeasures. The MiG-29A was armed with 2 x BVP-30-26M chaff/flare dispensers with 30 x 26mm PPI-26 flare cartridges each, fired by the SUVP-29 unit. These dispensers were located in a shallow strake-like fairings ahead of the fins. They were tested on the “917” prototype. It was powered by two, two-shaft turbofan Tumansky RD-33 afterburning engines, each producing thrust rated at 5,040 kgf on regular power, 5,600 kgf on minimum afterburner and 8,300 kgf on full. All MiG-29s except the MiG-29M and MiG-29K (see below) used this one. With the aerodynamic design of the aircraft, it helped it achieve a maximum speed of 1,480 km/h at sea level (though technically it’s 1,500 km/h, but that speed was very risky for the aircraft) and 2,450 km/h at high altitude. Its maximum achievable Mach speed was/is Mach 2.35. This speed data more or less applies to all variants of the MiG-29. Up to 779 were produced (9-12, 9-12A and 9-12B combined). However, this variant was very quickly succeeded by the MiG-29S by converting many MiG-29As to the “S” standard, rendering it irrelevant from the service standpoint. It mainly served as the basis for exporting the Fulcrum. A two-seater version based on this one for training was designated the MiG-29UB. Equivalent: F-14A/B, F-15A, F-16A, F/A-18A/C, Mirage 2000C Pros: Very fast, accelerates from 600 - 1000 km/h in 13.5 seconds High top speed at sea level; 1,480 km/h, and 2,450 km/h at 11,000 m High 9G limit Very good roll rate Has countermeasures; 2 x BVP-30-26M chaff/flare dispensers with 30 x 26mm PPI-26 flare cartridges each Impressive climb rate measured at 330 m/s Has Schchel-U3M HMS (Helmet Mounted Sight) Very maneuverable; sharper at dogfights than even the Mirage 2000 and has a high AoA limit of 26 degrees Comes equipped with the modern OEPS-29 IRST with 15 km of tracking range Has the extremely deadly R-73A (R-73 RMD-1) dogfight thrust-vectoring air-to-air missile, with 40-50G of maneuverability and 60 deg/s of tracking Has R-27 heat-seeking and SARH BVR missiles (ranges of 50 and 60 km in head-on, 20 and 27 km in pursuit respectively), which are also maneuverable and track as soon as launched Powerful Phazatron N019 Rubin radar, beating the one of the F-16 and on par with the F-15’s Powerful 30mm cannon with high 1,600 RPM Comes with leading edge flaps Has the SPO-15LM Beryoza RWR Cons: Low amount of countermeasures in comparison with other aircraft of its time Limited CAS capabilities Lacks the R-77 and active radar-homing / FOX-3 missiles in general Does not have the extended-range R-27ER and R-27ET missiles Does not have the newer R-73M with solidified 50G maneuverability, higher gimbal limit and built-in ECM resistance Only capable of loading six missiles, whereas most of its opponents have eight to ten Comparably low range High cannon RPM makes 150 rounds of ammo little (limited ammo) Unpleasant stall characteristics Lacks a comprehensive ECM suite Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29S izdeliye 9-13S - The Definitive Early Fulcrum The MiG-29S izdeliye 9-13S is the definitive MiG-29 of the first iteration. When the extended-range R-27 models and the R-77 entered service, the Soviets began integrating those missiles into their aircraft; two former izdeliye 9-13 examples (“05 Blue” in 1988 and “04 Blue in 1989”) were modified for further research in this area. With the new SUV-29S WCS comprising the RPLK-29M avionics suite built around the new Phazotron N019M Topaz radar instead of the N019 Rubin, the MiG-29 became capable of using the impressive R-77 dogfight active radar-homing missile, which outperforms the first models of the AIM-120 AMRAAM, as well as the R-27ET and R-27ER missiles which vastly improved on the range of the former models from 50 and 60 km to 84 and 93 km respectively (though in very specific and severe conditions such as extremely high altitudes and in head-on, the R-27ER could engage from 100 km). These missiles were capable of 25-30G and tracking right off the rail, with a launch limit of 8G. The new radar was also capable of engaging two targets simultaneously (however only while utilizing the R-77). With this, the MiG-29S became the first aircraft to destroy two targets at the same time, with two R-77 missiles. Moreover, the N019M Topaz has increased ECM resistance, all-new software, a more advanced built-in monitoring system, a new Ts.101M digital processor and a slightly increased maximum detection range to 80 km. The R-77 was also very potent; capable of 30G in mid-air and has no issue being fired upon a plane pulling 12G. This is the first true dogfight BVR air-to-air missile in the world. With the R-77, the designers estimated that its combat efficiency increased by 2.5 - 3 times. As it is also one of the newer models, it later received the upgraded R-73M dogfight IR missile, with an increased gimbal limit from 45 degrees to 60, a solid 50G maneuvering capability and a new seeker which improved its frontal lock-on range at low altitude from 10 - 12 km (as on the previous R-73A) to 20 km. Moreover, the automatic flight control system was modified in order to help the new variant reach 28 degrees of AoA instead of 26, the maximum MTOW was increased to 20,000 kg and the ordnance load was increased to 4,000 kg; permitting the plane to heavier bombs such as 4 x FAB-500M62 instead of just two. A new SUV-29S weapons control system was also installed, a new Ts101 digital processor and an upgraded OEPrnK-29-1 optoelectric navigation/targeting suite, which had a new combined control mode that helped it with gunnery against aerial targets. Despite being a big improvement, this very specific model was only produced in limited numbers (just 16 examples for the USSR alone). Instead, the original MiG-29A was retrofitted with the new changes. Equivalent: F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, Mirage 2000-5, JAS39 Gripen Pros: New dogfight active radar-homing R-77 missiles New higher range R-27ET and R-27ER BVR missiles New R-73M missiles with higher maneuverability, gimbal limit and an increased frontal lock-on range from 10 - 12 km to 20 km at low altitude Higher AoA limit (28°) than the previous models OEPS-29 IRST with a range of 15 km, capable of “slaving” heat-seekers and passively attack targets New powerful Phazotron N019M Topaz radar with higher ECM resistance and capable of tracking engaging two targets simultaneously Schchel-3UM helmet-mounted sight, capable of slaving heat-seekers just by aiming the helmet at the target Very good roll rate Hard-hitting 30mm cannon with high ROF Leading edge flaps Has countermeasures Has the SPO-15LM Beryoza RWR Increased ordnance load Full ECM suite Good fuel capacity Cons: Comparatively low countermeasures capabilities; up to 60 cartridges Despite the increase in air-to-ground capabilities, it’s still limited Six pylons / missiles max; most western fighters of its time could carry at least eight Underwhelming effective range although increased Unpleasant stall characteristics, although the AoA was improved Fast-firing cannon with relatively limited ammunition (150 rounds) Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29A izdeliye 9-12A - Entrusting Close Allies Of course, the USSR had to provide its satellite states with self-protection. A slightly downgraded version of the MiG-29A emerged, known as the “version A” (or MiG-29A izdeliye 9-12A) with an RPLK-29E (“e” for eksportni, export) based on the N019EA Rubin radar designed for Warsaw Pact nations lacking the “Free Search” mode which limits its ECCM capabilities. It was also modified with the OEPrNK-29E optoelectronic and navigation system and older IFF transponders. Much like the Soviet model, it came equipped with a helmet mounted sight; the Schchel-U3M was designated “Schchel-U3M-1” for export. This model carries the export variants of the missiles carried by the Soviet version: the R-60MK, R-73MK, R-27R1 and R-27T1. However, it should be noted that Germany did not receive the infrared-homing version. Other than that, nothing else happened. Performance was identical to the Soviet version. It stayed in production from 1988 till 1991 and was supplied to East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Poland and Romania. Interestingly, Poland loaned two examples to Israel. They retained their original color scheme but had altered roundels. They were used for testing and evaluation against Israeli F-16As over the Negev desert. Equivalent: F-14A/B, F-15A, F-16A, F/A-18A/C, Mirage 2000C Pros: Identical performance to the Soviet model Best short-range heat-seeking missiles of its time; the R-73A had an agility of 40 - 50G, 60°/s, a launch limit of 8G and capable of attacking targets pulling up to 12G Passive BVR missiles (R-27T1) Very good BVR missiles; retained the R-27R (R-27R1) Retained the R-60M and R-73A heat-seekers (R-60MK and R-73MK in export designation) High AoA limit (26°) OEPS-29 IRST with a range of 15 km, capable of “slaving” heat-seekers and passively attack targets Powerful N019EA Rubin radar Schchel-3UM helmet-mounted sight, capable of slaving heat-seekers just by aiming the helmet at the target Very good roll rate Hard-hitting 30mm cannon with high ROF (1,500 - 1,800 RPM) Leading edge flaps Has countermeasures Has the SPO-15LM Beryoza RWR Cons: Comparatively low countermeasures capabilities; up to 60 cartridges Limited CAS / Ground-strike capabilities Six pylons / missiles max; most western fighters of its time could carry at least eight Missing R-77 active radar-homing BVR missiles The extended range R-27ER1 and R-27ET1 missiles were not included Low effective range (700 km at low altitude) Unpleasant stall characteristics Fast-firing cannon with relatively limited ammunition (150 rounds) Slightly downgraded avionics Lacks a comprehensive ECM suite Edited May 25, 2024 by Irisz
AeriaGloria Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 5 hours ago, Irisz said: Two interesting descriptions of the MiG-29's radars! The range of the MiG-29S radar could be corrected based on this in the DCS World because it underperforms! Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29A izdeliye 9-12 - The Red Eagle is Born The first ever production variant of the MiG-29 is the MiG-29A izdeliye 9-12, also known as “izdeliye 5” to confuse Western intelligence. Official production of this variant commenced in 1982, however the first batches were rolled out in 1979 and 1980. On the basis of this variant became the entirety of the legendary Fulcrum series and the main export variants that were delivered to some nations of the Warsaw Pact and less trusted allies such as Iraq. This is the baseline feature, in a way not the Fulcrum they were fully expecting. While it did receive the intended RPLK-29 system (built around the N019 Rubin radar), plans were already drawn for a much better version with the in-house designation of izdeliye 9-13S that was being tested less than a year later in 1983, which later became the izdeliye 9-13S (the MiG-29S). Despite this, the MiG-29A was still a production variant that served the Soviet Air Force. On the 11th of June, 1987, an order was issued to officially induct the MiG-29 into service, though it had achieved operational capabilities in 1983. Most of the batches were split into 15 examples, though it was 30 sometimes. The first 70 examples had small ventral fins outboard of the engine nacelles to improve the spinning characteristics of the engines. The batches that were rolled out in 1984 had the automatic bank corrector which rendered those small ventral fins unnecessary. The MiG-29A was powered by two Tumansky RD-33 engines with 5,040 kgf of thrust on regular power and 8,340 kgf on afterburner, each. The climb rate of the MiG-29A was an impressive 330 meters per second, and it could go up to 1,480 km/h at low altitude. Technically 1,500 km/h, but that’s when flying in it became really really dangerous. Its top speed was 2,450 km/h at 11,000 m, and the service ceiling was 17,000 m. One of the features that definitively decided the MiG-29A’s title as a fourth generation fighter is its WCS & FCS. Its targeting system was the RPLK-29, built around the Phazotron N019 Rubin radar that was decidedly superior to contemporary western systems of that time. The maximum detection range of a fighter in open air space was proven to be 75 km, while the AN/APG-66 of the F-16A fell short by 35 km, measuring at 40 km max. In look-down/shoot-down modes, the maximum detection range was 65 km in head-on situations and 35 km when in pursuit. It was a very capable radar with impressive look-down/shoot-down capabilities. The scan limit in azimuth was ±67º and +60º plus -38º in elevation. The maximum range it attempts to search at is 150 km (not the range it detects targets at; for example the MiG-23MLD’s radar goes as far as to 90 km to search but doesn’t find targets past 70 - 80 km). There were six modes: High PRF: this is the main search mode, which gives a detection range of fighter-sized targets between 50 and 75 km (can reach 100 km in open air space), and tracking range between 40 and 60 km at high altitude, however below 3 km of altitude it falls shorter by 10 km in both detection and tracking. It has a 130º scan area which is divided into left, center and right sectors; the left sector scans between -65º to -15º, center covers -25º to +25º and right sector from +15º to +65º. Medium PRF: a mode used in pursuit engagements only when necessary since it’s prone to ground clutter and displaying false targets, at which point the pilot has to visibly identify them. It detects and tracks targets between 20 and 35 km above 3 km of altitude, and below that, the detection range is 20 - 35 km and tracking is 18 - 35 km. At extremely low altitudes (500 m) the range is 15 - 30 km of detection/search and 13 - 25 km of tracking. Scan coverage in azimuth 40º and 16.5º in elevation. If the range of a detected aircraft is above 20 km, scan coverage becomes 30º in azimuth and 13.5º in elevation. SP Free Search: this is a mode that substitutes the “High PRF” mode when in dense ECM environments as it has ECCM capabilities. BLBOY / Tracking Mode: much like the western aircraft, the Soviets employed a dedicated “ACM” mode to acquire and track targets. “BLBOY” is short for “Bleyzhni Boy” which means “Close Combat”, and it has a target acquisition and tracking range of 250 m - 10 km achievable through a fixed targeting ahead vertical scan of + 37º/ -13º Track-While-Flyby (TWF): used in conjunction with High PRF, this is the mode that allows the tracking of 10 targets simultaneously (albeit still cannot engage more than one target at once). It also allows the missiles to be launched at their best possible ranges while minmizing warning. AVT: the last but not least is AVT or the automatic mode, which combines both High and Medium PRF to achieve optimal performance and displays a range of 100 km on the HUD. However, TWF is not available when using this one. When attacking with the cannon, here is a brochure from MiG detailing the gunnery modes 10 available. The optoelectronic sighting and navigation system, designated OEPrNK-29, includes the optical-electronic sighting system designated as the “OEPS-29”, which basically includes the aircraft’s IRST by the designation of “KOLS”, with up to 15 km of detection range against aerial targets, while the range of the laser rangefinder included in the system had a range measured at 6 km (Azimuth 30 ‘/ - 30’ or 15 ‘/ - 15’ elevation 15 ‘/ - 15’). It was also capable of slaving heat-seekers, feeding its missiles the coordinates of the bogies to allow them to track better initially while also passively attacking the enemy. Moreover, this sighting and navigation system also has the: SN-29 navigation system Schchel-U3M helmet mounted sight (HMS) SUO-29M weapons selector SEI-31 joint indication system (JIS) ILS-31 heads-up-display (HUD) FKP-EU gun camera Along with all these avionic systems, the impressive Schchel-3UM helmet-mounted sight was inducted. This helmet could slave heat-seeking missiles (mainly the R-73) just by aiming the pilot’s head / helmet at the target, and at this point every Soviet fighter had the tail protection system, a system with the purpose of defending the aircraft’s rear. It allowed the R-73 to be launched from the rear, giving it a full 360 degree FOV! It also came equipped with the SPO-15LM Beryoza RWR. However, it lacked a comprehensive ECM suite. It was supposed to come equipped with the Gardeniya-F1U jammer, and this was later remedied on later production models. Other avionics include the SRZP-1 IFF interrogator and the SRO-1P transponder. Coupled with the radar were of course the R-27 air-to-air missiles for beyond-visual range combat, which came in two versions: the R-27T infrared-homing model and the R-27R semi-active radar-homing model. These were efficient, long-ranged missiles with 50 km and 60 km of range in head-on mode respectively. In pursuit, the R-27T’s maximum range was measured at 20 km, while the R-27R capped at 27 km. Moreover, it had a maneuverability of 24G. Though similar to the R-24 in such terms, it had a lower launch range of 300 m instead of 500 m, making it a true dogfight missile. Furthermore, much like its predecessor (the R-24R), it had an inverse monopulse seeker. The MiG-29A’s usual air-to-air loadouts were four R-73A and two R-27R/T missiles, or two R-60M, two R-73A and two R-27R/T. The R-73A was an extremely agile dogfight missile, capable of attacking targets pulling up to 12G! This is thanks to the thrust-vectoring system. The seeker was also capable of detecting targets at approximately 20 km and could track at a whopping 60°/s. The maneuverability of the R-73A was measured at 45G, and it did not have a launch limit. On the newer models such as the R-73M found on the MiG-29S (+), the maneuverability was improved to 50-60G thanks to improvements to the aerodynamics of the missile. However, unlike the later models, it did not come with the R-77 active radar-homing missile to pit it up against fighters armed with the AIM-120A/C, neither the extended range R-27ER and R-27ET missiles. One should also not forget that despite the MiG-29 initially being intended for air superiority only (they underestimated the need for a secondary CAS role, improved on later models), it was still capable of attacking ground targets. Such loadouts included up to four 500 kg FAB-500M54 or FAB-500M62 bombs, or four 500 kg ZB-500 napalm bombs, up to six FAB-250 or sixteen OFAB-100 or 120 kg OFAB-120s. As for unguided rockets, up to four S-24 240mm heavy unguided rockets could be carried or four UB-32A-73 rocketpods totalling 128 rockets or 80 S-8 rockets in B-8M1 rocketpods. The manufacturer set an AoA limit of 26° on the aircraft, however in the VVS the imposed limit was 24° to ensure pilot safety. Its maneuverability at an altitude of 3,000 m with 50% fuel was 23.5 deg/° and this was achieved with the help of the leading edge flaps. For reference, the F/A-18C and Mirage 2000-5 maneuver at 20 deg/°, and the F-16C at 21.5 deg/°. The maximum airframe G limit was 9G, but the max G force in a turn was 7G. Comparatively, the F-16C, F/A-18C and EF2000’s maximum G force in turns were 6.2G, 6.4G and 7G respectively. Thanks to the Tumansky RD-33 engines with 5,040 kgf and 8,300 kgf (without and with afterburners), its maximum rate of climb was an impressive 330 m/s, better than all four previously mentioned western fighters. It took the MiG-29 around 13.5 seconds to reach 1,000 km/h from 600 km/h. Its top speed was 2,450 km/h at 11,000 m and 1,480 km/h at sea level. As a fourth generation fighter, it was of course armed with countermeasures. The MiG-29A was armed with 2 x BVP-30-26M chaff/flare dispensers with 30 x 26mm PPI-26 flare cartridges each, fired by the SUVP-29 unit. These dispensers were located in a shallow strake-like fairings ahead of the fins. They were tested on the “917” prototype. It was powered by two, two-shaft turbofan Tumansky RD-33 afterburning engines, each producing thrust rated at 5,040 kgf on regular power, 5,600 kgf on minimum afterburner and 8,300 kgf on full. All MiG-29s except the MiG-29M and MiG-29K (see below) used this one. With the aerodynamic design of the aircraft, it helped it achieve a maximum speed of 1,480 km/h at sea level (though technically it’s 1,500 km/h, but that speed was very risky for the aircraft) and 2,450 km/h at high altitude. Its maximum achievable Mach speed was/is Mach 2.35. This speed data more or less applies to all variants of the MiG-29. Up to 779 were produced (9-12, 9-12A and 9-12B combined). However, this variant was very quickly succeeded by the MiG-29S by converting many MiG-29As to the “S” standard, rendering it irrelevant from the service standpoint. It mainly served as the basis for exporting the Fulcrum. A two-seater version based on this one for training was designated the MiG-29UB. Equivalent: F-14A/B, F-15A, F-16A, F/A-18A/C, Mirage 2000C Pros: Very fast, accelerates from 600 - 1000 km/h in 13.5 seconds High top speed at sea level; 1,480 km/h, and 2,450 km/h at 11,000 m High 9G limit Very good roll rate Has countermeasures; 2 x BVP-30-26M chaff/flare dispensers with 30 x 26mm PPI-26 flare cartridges each Impressive climb rate measured at 330 m/s Has Schchel-U3M HMS (Helmet Mounted Sight) Very maneuverable; sharper at dogfights than even the Mirage 2000 and has a high AoA limit of 26 degrees Comes equipped with the modern OEPS-29 IRST with 15 km of tracking range Has the extremely deadly R-73A (R-73 RMD-1) dogfight thrust-vectoring air-to-air missile, with 40-50G of maneuverability and 60 deg/s of tracking Has R-27 heat-seeking and SARH BVR missiles (ranges of 50 and 60 km in head-on, 20 and 27 km in pursuit respectively), which are also maneuverable and track as soon as launched Powerful Phazatron N019 Rubin radar, beating the one of the F-16 and on par with the F-15’s Powerful 30mm cannon with high 1,600 RPM Comes with leading edge flaps Has the SPO-15LM Beryoza RWR Cons: Low amount of countermeasures in comparison with other aircraft of its time Limited CAS capabilities Lacks the R-77 and active radar-homing / FOX-3 missiles in general Does not have the extended-range R-27ER and R-27ET missiles Does not have the newer R-73M with solidified 50G maneuverability, higher gimbal limit and built-in ECM resistance Only capable of loading six missiles, whereas most of its opponents have eight to ten Comparably low range High cannon RPM makes 150 rounds of ammo little (limited ammo) Unpleasant stall characteristics Lacks a comprehensive ECM suite Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29S izdeliye 9-13S - The Definitive Early Fulcrum The MiG-29S izdeliye 9-13S is the definitive MiG-29 of the first iteration. When the extended-range R-27 models and the R-77 entered service, the Soviets began integrating those missiles into their aircraft; two former izdeliye 9-13 examples (“05 Blue” in 1988 and “04 Blue in 1989”) were modified for further research in this area. With the new SUV-29S WCS comprising the RPLK-29M avionics suite built around the new Phazotron N019M Topaz radar instead of the N019 Rubin, the MiG-29 became capable of using the impressive R-77 dogfight active radar-homing missile, which outperforms the first models of the AIM-120 AMRAAM, as well as the R-27ET and R-27ER missiles which vastly improved on the range of the former models from 50 and 60 km to 84 and 93 km respectively (though in very specific and severe conditions such as extremely high altitudes and in head-on, the R-27ER could engage from 100 km). These missiles were capable of 25-30G and tracking right off the rail, with a launch limit of 8G. The new radar was also capable of engaging two targets simultaneously (however only while utilizing the R-77). With this, the MiG-29S became the first aircraft to destroy two targets at the same time, with two R-77 missiles. Moreover, the N019M Topaz has increased ECM resistance, all-new software, a more advanced built-in monitoring system, a new Ts.101M digital processor and a slightly increased maximum detection range to 80 km. The R-77 was also very potent; capable of 30G in mid-air and has no issue being fired upon a plane pulling 12G. This is the first true dogfight BVR air-to-air missile in the world. With the R-77, the designers estimated that its combat efficiency increased by 2.5 - 3 times. As it is also one of the newer models, it later received the upgraded R-73M dogfight IR missile, with an increased gimbal limit from 45 degrees to 60, a solid 50G maneuvering capability and a new seeker which improved its frontal lock-on range at low altitude from 10 - 12 km (as on the previous R-73A) to 20 km. Moreover, the automatic flight control system was modified in order to help the new variant reach 28 degrees of AoA instead of 26, the maximum MTOW was increased to 20,000 kg and the ordnance load was increased to 4,000 kg; permitting the plane to heavier bombs such as 4 x FAB-500M62 instead of just two. A new SUV-29S weapons control system was also installed, a new Ts101 digital processor and an upgraded OEPrnK-29-1 optoelectric navigation/targeting suite, which had a new combined control mode that helped it with gunnery against aerial targets. Despite being a big improvement, this very specific model was only produced in limited numbers (just 16 examples for the USSR alone). Instead, the original MiG-29A was retrofitted with the new changes. Equivalent: F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, Mirage 2000-5, JAS39 Gripen Pros: New dogfight active radar-homing R-77 missiles New higher range R-27ET and R-27ER BVR missiles New R-73M missiles with higher maneuverability, gimbal limit and an increased frontal lock-on range from 10 - 12 km to 20 km at low altitude Higher AoA limit (28°) than the previous models OEPS-29 IRST with a range of 15 km, capable of “slaving” heat-seekers and passively attack targets New powerful Phazotron N019M Topaz radar with higher ECM resistance and capable of tracking engaging two targets simultaneously Schchel-3UM helmet-mounted sight, capable of slaving heat-seekers just by aiming the helmet at the target Very good roll rate Hard-hitting 30mm cannon with high ROF Leading edge flaps Has countermeasures Has the SPO-15LM Beryoza RWR Increased ordnance load Full ECM suite Good fuel capacity Cons: Comparatively low countermeasures capabilities; up to 60 cartridges Despite the increase in air-to-ground capabilities, it’s still limited Six pylons / missiles max; most western fighters of its time could carry at least eight Underwhelming effective range although increased Unpleasant stall characteristics, although the AoA was improved Fast-firing cannon with relatively limited ammunition (150 rounds) Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29A izdeliye 9-12A - Entrusting Close Allies Of course, the USSR had to provide its satellite states with self-protection. A slightly downgraded version of the MiG-29A emerged, known as the “version A” (or MiG-29A izdeliye 9-12A) with an RPLK-29E (“e” for eksportni, export) based on the N019EA Rubin radar designed for Warsaw Pact nations lacking the “Free Search” mode which limits its ECCM capabilities. It was also modified with the OEPrNK-29E optoelectronic and navigation system and older IFF transponders. Much like the Soviet model, it came equipped with a helmet mounted sight; the Schchel-U3M was designated “Schchel-U3M-1” for export. This model carries the export variants of the missiles carried by the Soviet version: the R-60MK, R-73MK, R-27R1 and R-27T1. However, it should be noted that Germany did not receive the infrared-homing version. Other than that, nothing else happened. Performance was identical to the Soviet version. It stayed in production from 1988 till 1991 and was supplied to East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Poland and Romania. Interestingly, Poland loaned two examples to Israel. They retained their original color scheme but had altered roundels. They were used for testing and evaluation against Israeli F-16As over the Negev desert. Equivalent: F-14A/B, F-15A, F-16A, F/A-18A/C, Mirage 2000C Pros: Identical performance to the Soviet model Best short-range heat-seeking missiles of its time; the R-73A had an agility of 40 - 50G, 60°/s, a launch limit of 8G and capable of attacking targets pulling up to 12G Passive BVR missiles (R-27T1) Very good BVR missiles; retained the R-27R (R-27R1) Retained the R-60M and R-73A heat-seekers (R-60MK and R-73MK in export designation) High AoA limit (26°) OEPS-29 IRST with a range of 15 km, capable of “slaving” heat-seekers and passively attack targets Powerful N019EA Rubin radar Schchel-3UM helmet-mounted sight, capable of slaving heat-seekers just by aiming the helmet at the target Very good roll rate Hard-hitting 30mm cannon with high ROF (1,500 - 1,800 RPM) Leading edge flaps Has countermeasures Has the SPO-15LM Beryoza RWR Cons: Comparatively low countermeasures capabilities; up to 60 cartridges Limited CAS / Ground-strike capabilities Six pylons / missiles max; most western fighters of its time could carry at least eight Missing R-77 active radar-homing BVR missiles The extended range R-27ER1 and R-27ET1 missiles were not included Low effective range (700 km at low altitude) Unpleasant stall characteristics Fast-firing cannon with relatively limited ammunition (150 rounds) Slightly downgraded avionics Lacks a comprehensive ECM suite Manuals explaining the 14% detection increase from N-019 M have been around a while and often referenced. ED won’t change it unless they have a better reason. Regardless this is about 9.13S which we will not get full fidelity yet with 9.12A A few simplifications, you can pull 9 G with it with the limiter. Dont know where they get 7 G, MiG-29 can hold 9 G sustained on the deck. Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Irisz Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 26 minutes ago, AeriaGloria said: Manuals explaining the 14% detection increase from N-019 M have been around a while and often referenced. ED won’t change it unless they have a better reason. Regardless this is about 9.13S which we will not get full fidelity yet with 9.12A A few simplifications, you can pull 9 G with it with the limiter. Dont know where they get 7 G, MiG-29 can hold 9 G sustained on the deck. MiG-29A and MiG-29S do not have G limiter! Fred "Spanky" Clifton flew the Mig-29. He says there was no G-Limiter. ‘I could pull the black out of the stick and bend the airplane’ - around 28:10 in the video. ED Forum LINK
AeriaGloria Posted May 25, 2024 Posted May 25, 2024 21 minutes ago, Irisz said: MiG-29A and MiG-29S do not have G limiter! Fred "Spanky" Clifton flew the Mig-29. He says there was no G-Limiter. ‘I could pull the black out of the stick and bend the airplane’ - around 28:10 in the video. ED Forum LINK My mistake. Was thinking about COC system Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
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