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Hello Guys,

i found an associate that will be taking over the bigger part of the Kit work. He will be preparing the kits like before. He will be taking over the packing of the parts and partial preassembly. Also Customer relations as well as sales and all responsibilities that come with it.
I will be there in the background providing the 3D printed parts in the learned quality.
His name is Rolf (kaltokri). He will be introducing himself in this thread.

Now for some facts on the kit:
The kit is based on the awesome work of @Protomaker964 and for sure Walmis from VPForce - so big Kudos and thanks for your work and allowing for providing the kits to the community!
The Kit comes with a two part Gimbal design (just like the original Rhino).
The lower part comes printed in 100% Infill material from carbon reinforced PETG-CF. The lower part is connectzed to the upper Stick connector using a 20x20 aluminium profile. The DIN Connector block and cable are riginal VPForce parts.
The Uppoer Stick connector comes printed from laser sinteres PA12 plastick wich is very durable and not prone to break.
This connector is an official VPForce 3D model and therefor is directly compatible with the Upgrade CNC machined connector that is available as an optional upgrade in the VPForce store.
The Housing comes printed from PETG with 5 Walls, Roofs and bottom layers with 35% infill wich provides for a very sturdy structure.

The kit includes all needed screws neatly bagged in labeled plastic bags.
The internal power wiring comes pre crimped and pre assembled to the complete assembly is SOLDER FREE!

Other than this kit and the VPForce motor kit you will need a psu. There is good cheap solutions for around 50 to 80 bucks all around the world. Closer information on specifications and connector needed can be found in the assembly instructions.

All you need to complete the Rhino assembly in a day is:
Basic tools like allen keys and screw drivers
2x57BLF03 + USB Kit from VPForce store
a wire end ferrule crimper (all cables in the kit come pre crimped but the power cables of the motor kit have to be crimped with wire end ferrules).
Some patience.
The Assembly can be done in one evening.

Price of the kit is 449,- plus shipping. Shipping worldwide is possible.
Together with the Price for the VPForce motor kit following over all price (roughly) the rhino will set you back 678,-

299,- Motor Kit
449,- DIY Kit
Additional you will face the cost for shipping (depending on your location varying) and depending on your needs a PSU (roughly 60-80 Bucks)

So if you want to be part of the "VPForce Forced flying community" in roughly 2 weeks (deliverytimes may vary) contact  kaltokri
CHEERS and happy flying!

The Belt covers shown in the picture are an optional upgrade. For more info contact Rolf please.
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No, he is offering a supplied built service to avoid the wait times, 

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I am absolutely happy with mine.
Built one for 3 friends already.
Its almost as much of a revelation as VR was back in the day IMHO.
I even converted my TM TPRs to Rhino pedals and i love both.

51 minutes ago, markturner1960 said:

No, he is offering a supplied built service to avoid the wait times, 

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Cool! Thank you for clearing that up, I'm definitely interested in FF, it's just out of my pocket league atm. But I'm glad to know people who have this swear by it.

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To clarify is that 1000 £, €, $, yen?

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On 2/7/2024 at 6:44 PM, lxsapper said:

It's EU so € most likely.

this!
EDIT:
I can also only recommend anyone who wants one to build one yourself. Its such a great piece of hardware and increases immersion and quality of your flying by such a big margin! I learned a lot building mine and hada lot of fun doing so.
AND its great to have a joystick base that you can replace every single part of in case something breaks and not having to worry about warranty and stuff.
So if anyone wants to build one and has questions - feel free to ask. Ill gladly help.

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On 2/7/2024 at 12:11 PM, Winger said:

I am absolutely happy with mine.
Built one for 3 friends already.
Its almost as much of a revelation as VR was back in the day IMHO.
I even converted my TM TPRs to Rhino pedals and i love both.

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Hey! Do you have a video or more info on the TPR rhino mod? How much for that?

 

I have the rhino and would love to convert my TPR pedals!

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hey, i dont sell that mod. I just replicated it from smitty on VPForce Discord.
Was kind of problematic cause some of the parts are in inch and i live in germany so i couldnt get the parts. Only got them with lots of difficulties.

@ LuseKofte yepp. the Rhino is an awesome piece of equipment. Must havve for Flightsimmers just like VR IMHO.

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Hey everyone,

i saw Winger's offer on January 6th as an alert i had set on kleinanzeigen.de (online fleamarket like craigslist, gumtree etc.) went off.

Got in contact with him the same evening and immediatly noticed his passion for flight sims and the rhino base. We talked for half an hour, and my concerns about buying expensive DIY hardware without any warranty or customer support from someone i just got to know vanished quickly.

The base arrived five weeks later, which included a week of waiting for the pulleys to arrive. Winger kept me well informed and built up my anticipation. Since registering to the Rhino queue in September last year i asked the bot about my position about once per week, so it's safe to say i was hyped.

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The base arrived in a cardbord box which contained this wood box.

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This thing is a beast! All in all the best protected piece of hardware i have ever recieved. Yes, the cover on the edge was slightly bent first, but evened out later. I suspect it might have happened because of temperature differences. Did a quick comparison to my CM3 base to decide on mounting height, as Wingers base has 20 degrees of throw and a shorter connector than Walmis' Rhino base. Coming from a CM3 with 30 cm extension, i mounted the Rhino base 2cm lower and ended up with a similar sight height and a few degrees less throw. I always thought that 20+5cm or 20+7,5cm extensions would have worked out better with the CM3 base, so this was a very happy moment for me already!

 

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S-Curve mounted, definitely difficult and something that should be done with absolute caution and care to not damage the threads. I'd go as far as saying that Virpil's 20cm S-Curve is a must-have for the Rhino. I was too clumsy when i first tried to attach the extension and made a dent in the upper threads. Eventually i managed to tighten the extension and i know i'm never going to take it off again. Changing grips is no problem with Virpil's metal connection and the profile loading is just as easy.

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Oh no, i spent all my money on hardware so i had to.. improvise.. on the mounts. I never tried a proper simrig with profile mounts, and yes my PC is stopping the throttle and panel from shaking. Its far from rock steady, but normal use on the panels doesn't let you notice they're mounted on a wobbly mess of wood and screws.

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The base is a huge gamechanger, i am still in the process of learning and tuning configurations, but i can't really find the words to describe how much more immersed it makes you feel. It's amazing how little time it took to configure and start flying. I really like the look and feel of the emergency stop button. The second potentiometer allows for perfect tuning on the go, i wouldn't want to miss it.

Demonstration of the amount of throw:

As a helohead experiencing how proper force trim feels for the first time was another very happy moment:

So yeah, i'm really happy with my base so far. If flying virtual aircraft is your passion, you won't regret getting this amazing hardware from Winger. I was blown away by the feel and precision of Virpil's hardware when i replaced my 10+ year old X52. The step from Virpil to the Rhino now feels even bigger and more sigificant.

What i've experienced so far from Winger and the VPForce Discord communtiy makes me confident to recieve support if any problems come up after long term use. I'll definitely do the FFB mod for my pedals later this year, which i'm sure will be another huge gamechanger for flying helos.

Thanks a lot Winger!

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2 hours ago, bertOC said:

Hey everyone,

i saw Winger's offer on January 6th as an alert i had set on kleinanzeigen.de (online fleamarket like craigslist, gumtree etc.) went off.

Got in contact with him the same evening and immediatly noticed his passion for flight sims and the rhino base. We talked for half an hour, and my concerns about buying expensive DIY hardware without any warranty or customer support from someone i just got to know vanished quickly.

The base arrived five weeks later, which included a week of waiting for the pulleys to arrive. Winger kept me well informed and built up my anticipation. Since registering to the Rhino queue in September last year i asked the bot about my position about once per week, so it's safe to say i was hyped.

image.jpeg

The base arrived in a cardbord box which contained this wood box.

2.jpg

3.jpg

5.jpg

This thing is a beast! All in all the best protected piece of hardware i have ever recieved. Yes, the cover on the edge was slightly bent first, but evened out later. I suspect it might have happened because of temperature differences. Did a quick comparison to my CM3 base to decide on mounting height, as Wingers base has 20 degrees of throw and a shorter connector than Walmis' Rhino base. Coming from a CM3 with 30 cm extension, i mounted the Rhino base 2cm lower and ended up with a similar sight height and a few degrees less throw. I always thought that 20+5cm or 20+7,5cm extensions would have worked out better with the CM3 base, so this was a very happy moment for me already!

 

6.jpg

S-Curve mounted, definitely difficult and something that should be done with absolute caution and care to not damage the threads. I'd go as far as saying that Virpil's 20cm S-Curve is a must-have for the Rhino. I was too clumsy when i first tried to attach the extension and made a dent in the upper threads. Eventually i managed to tighten the extension and i know i'm never going to take it off again. Changing grips is no problem with Virpil's metal connection and the profile loading is just as easy.

7.jpg

Oh no, i spent all my money on hardware so i had to.. improvise.. on the mounts. I never tried a proper simrig with profile mounts, and yes my PC is stopping the throttle and panel from shaking. Its far from rock steady, but normal use on the panels doesn't let you notice they're mounted on a wobbly mess of wood and screws.

8.jpg

9.jpg

The base is a huge gamechanger, i am still in the process of learning and tuning configurations, but i can't really find the words to describe how much more immersed it makes you feel. It's amazing how little time it took to configure and start flying. I really like the look and feel of the emergency stop button. The second potentiometer allows for perfect tuning on the go, i wouldn't want to miss it.

Demonstration of the amount of throw:

As a helohead experiencing how proper force trim feels for the first time was another very happy moment:

So yeah, i'm really happy with my base so far. If flying virtual aircraft is your passion, you won't regret getting this amazing hardware from Winger. I was blown away by the feel and precision of Virpil's hardware when i replaced my 10+ year old X52. The step from Virpil to the Rhino now feels even bigger and more sigificant.

What i've experienced so far from Winger and the VPForce Discord communtiy makes me confident to recieve support if any problems come up after long term use. I'll definitely do the FFB mod for my pedals later this year, which i'm sure will be another huge gamechanger for flying helos.

Thanks a lot Winger!

Thanks for your Kind words Bert. I am very glad you Like it. But i told you youll love it☺️

All kudos Go to Walmis for developing this awesome Joystick Base, the Community and Walmis for their ongoing improved awesome Software and protomaker964 that shared the DIY Plans this Base ist bult upon on GitHub.

I am nothing more than a helper for fellow simmers that want to also Go the DIY Route but can for whatever reason.

 

Cheers

 

Winger

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Here my setup for Winger‘s Rhino VPForce. A realy well build piece of technic. I got it 2-3 weeks ago and i‘m very happy, it brings the immersion to an higher level. Thanks to Winger 😁👍🤘

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On 3/6/2024 at 10:02 AM, wofei said:

Here my setup for Winger‘s Rhino VPForce. A realy well build piece of technic. I got it 2-3 weeks ago and i‘m very happy, it brings the immersion to an higher level. Thanks to Winger 😁👍🤘

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Thanks for you kind words. But I am nothing more than a mere helper. All the KUDOS belog to Walmis at VPForce for developing this great thing, the community for contributing with the development and Protomaker964 for sharing the files on Github.
i am really glad you like it Wofei!
 

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Winger,  any chance of reposting your instructions for 3-D printing?  (Materials, fill, etc?)  I was just getting ready to do it when you took down the post describing them!

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On 4/18/2024 at 4:20 PM, FlyDoc said:

Winger,  any chance of reposting your instructions for 3-D printing?  (Materials, fill, etc?)  I was just getting ready to do it when you took down the post describing them!

PM sent

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Hi,

I also would like to give feedback on Wingers work.
The base arrived promptly and well packaged.
Everything is very well made and works very well.
I got everything from him that fit, including the power supply and an additional cover for the belts.
I also received good support during the subsequent configuration.
I'm very happy with it and it's fun to fly with it. I can recommend it, it's worth the money!!!

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Hi,

I'm kaltokri and I will be selling the do-it-yourself kits for building the Rhino from now on.
Winger prints all the parts (so that the quality is as usual) and I put the kits together and take care of the customer contact.
For questions or orders please send me a PN here in the forum or an e-mail to rolf.geuenich AT gmail.com

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Hey guys appreciate you doing this with the DIY options.  I'm close to coming up in the build que and was weighing the pros and cons of building myself.  If I wanted to buy the 450Euro kit and build my own can I sub in the more powerful motors?  Is there anything else that would need to be added to do so?  Or just buy the more powerful kit?  Also which one does what?  I see one for 439 Euros and one for 399 Euros....Thanks!

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Posted
1 minute ago, Greekbull said:

can I sub in the more powerful motors?

Absolutely No. Neither do they fit in the case, nor would the gimbal be strong enough for them. You can 100% forget this.

If you want the big motors, you need to design something on your own or find a completely different kit.

"Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"

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