Raisuli Posted July 8, 2024 Posted July 8, 2024 As far as I know you aren't going to hunt me down at home and beat me with a shillelagh for asking... Airspeed callouts every five or ten knots. Really useful when my head is out of the cockpit but we really need to keep the speed up. Can't imagine a situation where that might make a difference... Supposed to be a two person crew. Crew resource management; I do this, you do that. Come on, Jester, do that. Do something! 1
RaisedByWolves Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 I just wish he wouldn’t use the Lords name in vain. 2
Super-B Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 Agreed, Jester should be making airspeed call-outs at least during the landing phase. 1 Ryzen 7 5800X / EVGA RTX 3080 / 64gb DDR4 RAM / 750W PS / VPC WarBRD / VKB STECS Max
Zabuzard Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 Airspeed callouts during dogfight are planned. During AG they are already added for the next patch.For landing, he can call out altitude, soeed doesn't matter, you are supposed to ride the AoA tone down. (IRL WSOs didnt do these assisting callouts during landing actually) 1 2
MAXsenna Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 (edited) I just wish he wouldn’t use the Lords name in vain. Come off it! We've heard you now. I could tell you a thing or two about facts of life. But I ain't gonna get myself warning points for religious discussions here, which are not allowed for good reasons. Do better! Cheers! EDIT: "Raised by Wolfs"... Fat chance! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Edited July 9, 2024 by MAXsenna Spelling grammar 8 2
G.J.S Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 Airspeed calls during a fight every 5-10 KTS may be a bit much! The rate of speed decay could give you a constant stream of speed calls. Every 25 KTS down to around 225 would be better, any slower would just get a call of “airspeed” (as long as gear is up), more insistent and with more urgency the closer to tone you get, by then your primary alert should be tone. 2 - - - The only real mystery in life is just why kamikaze pilots wore helmets? - - -
Q3ark Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 7 hours ago, Super-B said: Agreed, Jester should be making airspeed call-outs at least during the landing phase. Airspeed is of no use to you on the landing phase, the F4 should be flown by AOA on landing like a navy aircraft at the boat. AOA doesn’t care about aircraft weight, if you fly the correct AOA you’ll always be at the appropriate airspeed for your weight. 1
Raisuli Posted July 9, 2024 Author Posted July 9, 2024 6 hours ago, Zabuzard said: Airspeed callouts during dogfight are planned. During AG they are already added for the next patch. For landing, he can call out altitude, soeed doesn't matter, you are supposed to ride the AoA tone down. (IRL WSOs didnt do these assisting callouts during landing actually) Dang it, you're always one feature request ahead of me! Well...except he's still not going to be my auto-pilot in a pinch. 2
Cab Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 21 minutes ago, Raisuli said: Well...except he's still not going to be my auto-pilot in a pinch. I hadn't thought of that. There is really no reason you shouldn't be able to tell Jester "Take the controls" and have him continue straight and level. 1
Raisuli Posted July 9, 2024 Author Posted July 9, 2024 Just now, Cab said: I hadn't thought of that. There is really no reason you shouldn't be able to tell Jester "Take the controls" and have him continue straight and level. I've read in a couple places the WSO/RIO did just more than that. Visibility is crap, but there's the whole IFR thing, so he should be able to maintain a bank, or even orbit a point on the ground. Neither of those seem over the top from a code perspective for a company that models the filaments in light bulbs. HB says no, and realistically he is just a software crutch for lack of a real GIB. There's quite a bit in the pipe for Jester and the aircraft; I'm pretty sure their feature list is pretty full right now. It'll be fun to see where all this goes. 1
Cab Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 2 hours ago, Raisuli said: HB says no, and realistically he is just a software crutch for lack of a real GIB. There's quite a bit in the pipe for Jester and the aircraft; I'm pretty sure their feature list is pretty full right now. It'll be fun to see where all this goes. Yep, agree. That's why I was thinking small with just straight and level. 1
Super-B Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 13 hours ago, Zabuzard said: Airspeed callouts during dogfight are planned. During AG they are already added for the next patch. For landing, he can call out altitude, soeed doesn't matter, you are supposed to ride the AoA tone down. (IRL WSOs didnt do these assisting callouts during landing actually) My father, a retired F-4 WSO, and my Stepfather, retired F-4 Pilot both disagree. WSO would calculate the landing speed, and make airspeed calls from pattern entry to the ground...yes AoA tone was followed but not Always Ryzen 7 5800X / EVGA RTX 3080 / 64gb DDR4 RAM / 750W PS / VPC WarBRD / VKB STECS Max
Q3ark Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Super-B said: My father, a retired F-4 WSO, and my Stepfather, retired F-4 Pilot both disagree. WSO would calculate the landing speed, and make airspeed calls from pattern entry to the ground...yes AoA tone was followed but not Always Having an AoA indexer and not using it seems like having a power drill and opting to use a hand cranked one, don’t know why you wouldn’t use it unless it was unserviceable for some reason. 1
_BringTheReign_ Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 20 hours ago, RaisedByWolves said: I just wish he wouldn’t use the Lords name in vain. DCSWorld\Mods\aircraft\F-4E\Sounds\Jester\phrases outofgoddamnmind.ogg outofgoddamnmindmatterwithyou.ogg delete and enjoy 2 1 .
MAXsenna Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 DCSWorld\Mods\aircraft\F-4E\Sounds\Jester\phrases outofgoddamnmind.ogg outofgoddamnmindmatterwithyou.ogg delete and enjoy Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Zabuzard Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 I hadn't thought of that. There is really no reason you shouldn't be able to tell Jester "Take the controls" and have him continue straight and level.(note that you do have an autopilot that can do exactly that) 4
Cab Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 5 minutes ago, Zabuzard said: 9 hours ago, Cab said: I hadn't thought of that. There is really no reason you shouldn't be able to tell Jester "Take the controls" and have him continue straight and level. (note that you do have an autopilot that can do exactly that) I know, but I fly in VR with point ctrl and reaching behind to throw the switches is a pain. I should just map a HOTAS switch, but I haven't gotten around to it because I don't really use the autopilot anyway. Stupid, I know. Please don't judge me. 1
Q3ark Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 36 minutes ago, Cab said: I know, but I fly in VR with point ctrl and reaching behind to throw the switches is a pain. I should just map a HOTAS switch, but I haven't gotten around to it because I don't really use the autopilot anyway. Stupid, I know. Please don't judge me. So you want heatblur to modify jester because you haven’t bothered to assign two autopilot switches to your HOTAS? 1
Cab Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 5 minutes ago, Q3ark said: So you want heatblur to modify jester because you haven’t bothered to assign two autopilot switches to your HOTAS? Negative, Ghostrider. I just said it’s something Jester could be made to do. The poor guy is taking so much flak, i thought it would be something helpful he could do. I don’t really care one way or another. 1
MAXsenna Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 VoiceAttack.... Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
G.J.S Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 5 hours ago, Super-B said: My father, a retired F-4 WSO, and my Stepfather, retired F-4 Pilot both disagree. WSO would calculate the landing speed, and make airspeed calls from pattern entry to the ground...yes AoA tone was followed but not Always Some countries drive on the left, some drive on the right. They both get where they’re going. Neither is wrong, Back seat Brian can calculate as a cross check. The audible indexer is mainly used for ease - it will always give tone at the correct angle for weight. Fly the tone on finals to land (amongst other things that tone can be used for). If mental arithmetic is your thang’ then by all means, calculate your “on speed” and perform a greaser. 2 - - - The only real mystery in life is just why kamikaze pilots wore helmets? - - -
Bosun Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 Can Jester CRM manage emailing clients and tracking event participation? Does the Jester CRM come with its own payment processor, or can it integrate with other payment processors? Can Jester CRM integrate with Asana, or Quickbooks? I had no idea Jester was a CRM but I'm stoked! 1
G.J.S Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 5 hours ago, Bosun said: Can Jester CRM manage emailing clients and tracking event participation? Does the Jester CRM come with its own payment processor, or can it integrate with other payment processors? Can Jester CRM integrate with Asana, or Quickbooks? I had no idea Jester was a CRM but I'm stoked! M for management is the same, but C & R should be “Crew Resource”. Unless Jester has ideas for his next career. 2 - - - The only real mystery in life is just why kamikaze pilots wore helmets? - - -
=DROOPY= Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/9/2024 at 4:09 PM, _BringTheReign_ said: DCSWorld\Mods\aircraft\F-4E\Sounds\Jester\phrases outofgoddamnmind.ogg outofgoddamnmindmatterwithyou.ogg delete and enjoy Thank you very kindly for sharing this... Much appreciated! I also removed same from the F-14 files... Unique aviation images for the passionate aviation enthusiast: Fb: FighterJetGeek Aviation Images - Home | Facebook IG: https://www.instagram.com/the_fighterjetgeek/ Aviation Photography Digest: AviationPhotoDigest.com/author/SMEEK9
Raisuli Posted July 11, 2024 Author Posted July 11, 2024 2 hours ago, =DROOPY= said: Thank you very kindly for sharing this... Much appreciated! I also removed same from the F-14 files... Might have to replace a few of Jester's color commentary with Monty Python quotes; at least those are funny. 3
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