Booted from DCS Because "Login Expired"

[Rudel_chw]

39 minutes ago, rob10 said:

My personal suspicion is that this occurs if you have 2FA turned on

Could be, for the record I’m not using 2FA.

[Pizzicato]

I am using 2FA. I haven't initiated any trials, though.

Any ideas why 2FA might be causing an issue? I'm not technical enough to know what problems that might cause.

[Rex]

On 5/1/2025 at 2:47 PM, Rudel_chw said:

 maybe your Internet connection is less steady than mine? 

Sure, maybe.  Let's say that it is.  Why is that relevant?  If that is indeed the case, it is a near-certainty that he does not want his connection to be less steady, and probably did nothing to cause it.  He may live in an area of the world where that's the best he can get.  Or maybe he lives where his ISP is a monopoly and therefore his service is @#$@. I heard about this one obscure little country where this sometimes happens, but I forget the name of it.  The Untied Status of Abracadabra or something like that.

Anyway, his unstable Internet is likely not his fault.  Why hold his hobby hostage over something third-world governments or widespread corporate en<profanity>tifcation? (seriously guys, you're doing substring searches for magic words now?).   He paid for his modules the same as the rest of us, does he deserve to enjoy them less because he didn't have the good sense to be born to parents in a geographic area with more stable internet?   Remember, he isn't playing multiplayer, in which case, sure, he'd be out of luck due to technical regions beyond his and ED's control.  No, he's CREATING A MiSSION, a decidedly single-player, "offline".  Good news, the unstable connection doesn't really matter in this case.  Unless, due to purely selfish reasons, someone decides to makes it matter.

Kicking legitimate, paid-up users out of their hobby likely won't curb piracy.  It may very well increase it.  How many times will someone get locked out before deciding to seek a way around it?  Humans are ingenious creatures, and more often than now, they find a way.

Punishing your most loyal, profitable users has become businesses knee-jerk default way of dealing with the "bad behavior" of others, but companies like EA get away with it due to pure market dominance across numerous titles.

DCS is more of a niche market, and in niche markets, things like customer loyalty and goodwill are much bigger factors in a company's success.  For instance, I've always purchased modules directly from ED because I wanted then to get the 30% that otherwise would have gone to, say, Steam.  I also purchase modules that I know I'll probably rarely use, purely to support the company.

Do you think I've ever done anything like that for EA?  Do you think I've spend a nanosecond contemplating what was best for them?

So it's hugely disappointing to me that they've taken this play from the Customer Hostile Playbook.

Now ANY network problem, regardless of who is at fault, becomes your problem, and removes the content you paid for from your library.   At least until the problem is fixed.  What about people who bought their modules before this policy was initiated?   And there is not one technical reason that this person needs to be barred from making their mission.  The reason they cannot is 100% an ED decision.  

 I mean, what if you move to Internet-Connection Nirvana, get a stable connection, get three backups, hire eight super-attractive women to act as your harem and indulge your every carnal impulse (I mean, as long as we're fantasizing) and hire a team of elite security guards to stand by your routers and dispatch any and all who dare to tamper with them? Can you finish your mission now?

Well, maybe. Then again, maybe not.

Does anyone honestly think ED themselves will never, ever experience a network outage?  What if that outage is due to a mistake or bad decision on their part?  It doesn't matter!  Regardless of the reason, you will get punished, and you will be relieved of the modules that you've paid hundreds to thousands of dollars to enjoy.  And apparently you deserve it, because ... because ... I mean, because ... actually, I don't know, you'd have to ask ED for that rationale, but make no mistake, you clearly deserve it.  

Unfortunately, when it becomes apparent to a company that something like this is a bad idea, it's nearly always too late to reverse.  The damage has been done.

Hopefully that happens later rather than sooner, but for every person posting about their problems on this forum, there are probably 10-20 who don't use the forums, so we really don't know just how often this is happening now.

Edited yesterday at 05:14 AM by Rex

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, Rex said:

Sure, maybe.  Let's say that it is.  Why is that relevant?

I was just trying to help identify the cause of the problem, why it happens to some users and not others. However, your reaction makes me doubt myself and its maybe best to just keep to myself. 

[draconus]

Any relation to PC suspension/sleep mode?

[Rex]

20 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

I was just trying to help identify the cause of the problem, why it happens to some users and not others. However, your reaction makes me doubt myself and its maybe best to just keep to myself. 

 

Please accept my apology.  That was not my intent.  The whole thing just irks me, and I guess I took it out on the first post that struck me.  I am an ashole.   I didn't mean to direct ire your way.  It was mis-directed.  Your feedback certainly was helpful.  I'm sorry.

Edited 11 hours ago by Rex

[Rudel_chw]

3 hours ago, Rex said:

Please accept my apology.  That was not my intent.

apology accepted, no worries, and hopefully a solution to this can be found.

[BIGNEWY]

Internet connection can go down, IP'S can change during a session, ISP's can have local issues, master server could also have issues. DCS requires a connection, we make that clear in our specifications. 

We do have an offline mode for those who are away from a connection for long periods, and it can be activated before loosing the connection or by simply tethering the pc / laptop to a mobile connection. 

If you continue to have a problem contact our support directly and they can check the account

thanks