Glove Vanes

[Aja]

Is there a way how to extend the leading-edge glove vanes? At least for A variant, there should be a way how to manually extend them, from what I found online...

 

[razo+r]

Just now, Aja said:

Is there a way how to extend the leading-edge glove vanes? At least for A variant, there should be a way how to manually extend them, from what I found online...

 

Not implemented (yet).

If you search for "Glove Vanes" in the forum you'll find several discussions about it.

For example: 

 

[Despayre]

I seem to recall reading that they were quickly welded closed by most units, they created more work than the advantages they provided. 

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

As commented, the glove vanes didn't last long in fleet service. They didn't offer enough advantage for the effort they required. I can find crew members stating that the A's lost them at the start of the 80s. The B's and D's never had them.

Edited December 8, 2024 by MiG21bisFishbedL

[MicroShket]

2 часа назад, MiG21bisFishbedL сказал:

B's

F-14B have had it, but it was permanently blocked. Anyway, no functioning glove vanes in the end of 1990s even on early blocks, as I understand.

Edited December 8, 2024 by MicroShket

[WarthogOsl]

It's possible we will get them as a cosmetic feature (no aerodynamic simulation) in the early A.  In that case, they may extend automatically via the CADC, or be manually extended with the DLC wheel when the wing is swept back beyond a certain amount.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

2 hours ago, MicroShket said:

F-14B have had it, but it was permanently blocked. Anyway, no functioning glove vanes in the end of 1990s even on early blocks, as I understand.

I'd heard that some B's didn't even have them? Either way, though, no glove vanes for us.

[Cab]

1 hour ago, WarthogOsl said:

It's possible we will get them as a cosmetic feature (no aerodynamic simulation) in the early A. 

Heatblur did say they would do this in the future.

[Swordsman422]

 

As others have said, the glove vanes are not yet implemented, but the two variants we have (LANTIRN-capable A and B), either had theirs welded shut or were built new without them. Expect them to show up on the earlier A models when they are released.

[MicroShket]

In two light-weeks. After implementing the Jester 2.0 and making Iranian block. Almost never.

[RustBelt]

7 hours ago, MiG21bisFishbedL said:

I'd heard that some B's didn't even have them? Either way, though, no glove vanes for us.

Depends what you mean by "B"

A+ "B"s, or

New manufacture "B"s

 

[Aja]

I could not find the other topic on this forum about this; my search skills are low. Otherwise, the linked thread concludes that it will not be implemented, not even as a graphical feature, because it is a waste of man-hours.

[Naquaii]

It's more or less correct that the F-14Bs didn't have them as by the time the B came around they had started disabling them. There might be some edge cases where they were around but I haven't seen it.

And as been alluded to here at a point they started not even fitting them from the factory so you'll have both aircraft with them welded shut and not having the slots for it at all.

What has been said from the bosses afaik is that we might add them and if so it's very likely they'll only be cosmetic. For the current F-14s we have in game they're not really a good fit as they're versions after they stopped using them. So if they're added it'll be for the early versions that are coming.

[Rhrich]

The glove vanes was an artifact of a mistaken view of how the future of air combat would look like.
I remember it well, we thought a lot of stuff would happen supersonic. Looking back on it now it seems rather stupid, but it wasn’t just the tomcat, «everyone» believed this. 

[MicroShket]

Iranian airframes still have glove vanes operating.  Video was taken on 10-11th December 2024.

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[Dragon1-1]

Now that's interesting, it'd be nice to see it on the Iranian version. Makes sense, too. Iran got its Tomcats before US crews started disabling the vanes.

I guess they never figured out they weren't worth the trouble (then again, operating them ashore might have changed this equation a bit).

Edited December 23, 2024 by Dragon1-1

[RustBelt]

22 hours ago, MicroShket said:

Iranian airframes still have glove vanes operating.  Video was taken on 10-11th December 2024.

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So Iran gave up on the cool paint jobs? That’s too bad. They have what, 12 left?

[JupiterJoe]

The old girl still looks great.  Let's hope HB add vanes to the upcoming early F-14 model.  It will help set them apart from the existing A.