known issue City night lights unrealistic

[-Scrat-]

Dear ED Team,

I would like to express my concern about the city night lights on the new Iraqy map. 

Let's take an example with 2 pictures more or less in the same position (see below). 

1st pic, it's a "real picture" over Baghdad at FL350.

2nd pic, in the "game", flying at the same level (FL350) no WX setup (fully CAVOK).

We can clearly see the difference in terms of lights intensity !

From my point of view this is unrealistic.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Scrat

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

we will be tweaking the lights in a future update, so thank you for your feedback, it certainly needs to be improved. 

best regards 

bignewy

[Hawkeye_UK]

I came onto the forums purely to post this issue, and one other.

I also jumped into the PG map, which for a map what 7 years older looks a magnitude times better at night.

The dull image is bagdad at night, the brighter image is PG map and Bandar Abbas, notice the draw distance setting (high) is the same on both maps - im in VR, pimax crystal and distance setting high.

New Afgan map is woefully close in night time lights - these need to be pushed out (and i'd argue on their own slider).  Look how far they extend out on PG - absolutely unsure how this was released with the lights so dull?

As a side note - the mountains to the North along the Turkish border, some of the best we've seen thus far for daylight "flying".

 

 

Edited December 11, 2024 by Hawkeye_UK

[Ala12Rv-Tundra]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye_UK said:

I came onto the forums purely to post this issue, and one other.

I also jumped into the PG map, which for a map what 7 years older looks a magnitude times better at night.

The dull image is bagdad at night, the brighter image is PG map and Bandar Abbas, notice the draw distance is the same on both maps - im in VR, pimax crystal and distance setting high.

New Afgan map is woefully close in night time lights - these need to be pushed out (and i'd argue on their own slider)

 

 

PG at night didn´t look like that, it was featured later. 2 years ago? 3? It´s the way of early access. I don´t remember Sinai or Syria, but I think PG is the best map all across DCS, night enviroment wise.
Caucasus and NTTR are older than PG, but they don´t like that great at night. My point is map age is not a factor either.

[Hawkeye_UK]

4 minutes ago, Ala12Rv-Tundra said:

PG at night didn´t look like that, it was featured later. 2 years ago? 3? It´s the way of early access. I don´t remember Sinai or Syria, but I think PG is the best map all across DCS, night enviroment wise.
Caucasus and NTTR are older than PG, but they don´t like that great at night. My point is map age is not a factor either.

No Sinai is way ahead, it is by far the most realistic looking nightime, evening lit map by some distance, nothing comes close at present.

its just a pity OnReTec is so poor at getting the Nav beacons sorted!

[Ala12Rv-Tundra]

2 hours ago, Hawkeye_UK said:

No Sinai is way ahead, it is by far the most realistic looking nightime, evening lit map by some distance, nothing comes close at present.

its just a pity OnReTec is so poor at getting the Nav beacons sorted!

Will try tomorrow over Cairo thanks for suggestion! 

[NineLine]

Yes as BIGNEWY stated, night lighting needs some tuning still. 

[Lekaa]

@BIGNEWY
Is this something that are currently being tuned or something for the future? 

Will give us a hint if it will be this year or in the unknown future.

[BIGNEWY]

2 hours ago, Lekaa said:

@BIGNEWY
Is this something that are currently being tuned or something for the future? 

Will give us a hint if it will be this year or in the unknown future.

As soon as it is tuned it will be in a change log, I dont have any other information currently. 

thank you 

[wilbur81]

Just curious - what is your gamma slider set at? I usually keep it at 1.8 - 2.0 for daytime flying...however, at night I usually have to slide it up to 2.3-2.7 in order to get a realistic look.

[Hawkeye_UK]

23 hours ago, wilbur81 said:

Just curious - what is your gamma slider set at? I usually keep it at 1.8 - 2.0 for daytime flying...however, at night I usually have to slide it up to 2.3-2.7 in order to get a realistic look.

Pimax crystal original ( so eye tracking - quad views etc) i have Gamma always on 1.5, never more than 1.6.  

Headset brightness 0.90, dimming level 0.9999 (although i note i've had some odd looking light blurs inside cockpit and saturation issues on night mission last night so need to look at that (note not iraq map as not flying on it at present)