fixed Game freezes when I try to select aircraft in MP lobby.

[Wrecking Crew]

I'm attaching my Client and Server logs.

When I try to join my server that is on my LAN, the Server's List Of Players screen never shows any indication of my Client joining. I have also tried joining directly to my server by its IP address and get the same problem.

Hollo Pointe Server Logs 202412.7z Hollo Pointe Client 202412.7z

[Wesjet]

Checking in to this with a friend and we noticed the logs of users here all appear to be on Windows 11 24H2 (Build 26100).

There is a reported error with 24H2 from Microsoft where AutoHDR can cause games to freeze:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-24h2#3466msgdesc

While trying to compare to Wrecking Crew, I upgraded myself to the new Nvidia app, and the latest 566.36 driver without this issue occurring. I am using AutoHDR, but my system is on Windows 11 23H2 (Build 22631). The update is blocked for users with AutoHDR enabled per the Microsoft note linked above.

Not sure if this will solve it, but thought the info might be worth sharing in case it does.

If you want to try disabling AutoHDR, go to Settings -> Display -> HDR (click on this section not the toggle to get the the HDR settings menu) -> part way down is the AutoHDR toggle.

[Wrecking Crew]

Hello. I did enable Windows HDR and dl'd and run the calibration for it. That was a couple of days ago.

In the past two days I have been able to join in MP roles. The significant change I made was to the 7 Zip program.

Now my 7-Zip program association is to 7zFM.exe (7-Zip File Manager) -> that now is associated with .miz files. My .miz files open normally now with 7-Zip.

Before I switched this, the .miz files wanted to open with 7z Console.

If this sounds like a wild theory, yes, it is

[AJaromir]

12 hours ago, Wrecking Crew said:

Hello. I did enable Windows HDR and dl'd and run the calibration for it. That was a couple of days ago.

In the past two days I have been able to join in MP roles. The significant change I made was to the 7 Zip program.

Now my 7-Zip program association is to 7zFM.exe (7-Zip File Manager) -> that now is associated with .miz files. My .miz files open normally now with 7-Zip.

Before I switched this, the .miz files wanted to open with 7z Console.

If this sounds like a wild theory, yes, it is

This is off-topic. Yes, the .miz is pack file which contains subfolders, e.t.c..

[AJaromir]

"Finally"

Since the last time only changes were:

Installed Steam

Installed Thrustmaster Dual throttle direvs and mounted those into powered USB hub

Installed Virpil Moongoos Stick

Set View center button on joystick button in the TrackIR software

Adjusted special settings for prop planes (take-off assists set to 0)

Adjusted trim modes for helicopters (central position trimming mode, no rudder trim, microswtitch in Mi-24 only to button)

Set english cockpit for most aircrafts

Assigned controls

dcs.log

Edited January 2 by AJaromir

[AJaromir]

Freezes are back like in good old time.

dcs.log

Note: There are absolutely no issues in single player mode.

Edited January 2 by AJaromir

[Mordants]

35 minutes ago, AJaromir said:

Freezes are back like in good old time.

dcs.log 5.95 MB · 1 download

Note: There are absolutely no issues in single player mode.

I have had freezing recently with others. Try deleting Images Shop Folder in Saved Games and try again.

 

[AJaromir]

Not sure why Images Shop could cause freezes when In the log I can clearly see it alway freezes at loading some aircraft's .dll file.

Edited January 2 by AJaromir

[Mordants]

35 minutes ago, AJaromir said:

Not sure why Images Shop could cause freezes when In the log I can clearly see it alway freezes at loading some aircraft's .dll file.

It was just a suggestion that is easy to do based on some research. The option is yours entirely.

[Wrecking Crew]

2 hours ago, AJaromir said:

This is off-topic. Yes, the .miz is pack file which contains subfolders, e.t.c..

It was an observation that might help others. Anyway, I was able to join MP slots yesterday afternoon, no problems.

[Special K]

Am 30.12.2024 um 01:36 schrieb Wrecking Crew:

I'm attaching my Client and Server logs.

When I try to join my server that is on my LAN, the Server's List Of Players screen never shows any indication of my Client joining. I have also tried joining directly to my server by its IP address and get the same problem.

Hollo Pointe Server Logs 202412.7z 101.14 kB · 5 Downloads Hollo Pointe Client 202412.7z 19.27 kB · 9 Downloads

You're completely hijacking a report for a different thing. 

Am 2.1.2025 um 15:55 schrieb AJaromir:

Not sure why Images Shop could cause freezes when In the log I can clearly see it alway freezes at loading some aircraft's .dll file.

I have seen that also. It happens with many AV solutions when the scanner for whatever reason takes a ton of time to scan. I assume you've created an exclusion already and you're on windows standard?

[AJaromir]

2 hours ago, Special K said:

You're completely hijacking a report for a different thing. 

I have seen that also. It happens with many AV solutions when the scanner for whatever reason takes a ton of time to scan. I assume you've created an exclusion already and you're on windows standard?

Yes, both DCS:World folders are in exclusion in MS Defender.

[HC_Official]

had this myself earlier, DCS crashed when I tried to select a slot in MP
 

[AJaromir]

I've found the good old trick with preloading aircraft in single players still works.

[318_Bonzo]

Hey, I've just had this problem. Everything was fine until I installed Windows 24H2 update. I was using 23H2 all the time, but eventually I gave in to the system's update reminders. And now I have the same problem as you. I've noticed that when the game hangs, dropping it to the bar and then picking it up again helps.
At present, no known solutions seem to help.

[Flappie]

This thread may help, but please, before reading it, make a backup of this folder: "Saved Games/DCS.../Config/Input":

 

[318_Bonzo]

20 hours ago, Flappie said:

This thread may help, but please, before reading it, make a backup of this folder: "Saved Games/DCS.../Config/Input":

 

Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately it didn't help.

 

Edit.

I got so desperate that I deleted the entire INPUT folder. And here a miracle happened. The planes load in the blink of an eye. Now I have to find what's causing the problem. I've already deleted all the old files, old controllers, but something must still be sitting somewhere and causing problems.

Edited January 15 by 318_Bonzo

[AJaromir]

So I think this is not solution for myself because I have clean OS installation with everything. Because of that I guess once I re-assign all controls, it will start again. Mind this issue happens in Multiplayer only. In single player there is literally no issue.

Edited January 15 by AJaromir

[318_Bonzo]

I found it! For me it's the Default folder in the Input folder

Thanks a lot @Flappie for the discovery and for pointing me in the right direction.

@AJaromir I also had a clean install. But I always copied my old files to Saved Games. Have you tried starting the game without your saves in INPUT?

Edited January 15 by 318_Bonzo

[AJaromir]

2 minutes ago, 318_Bonzo said:

I found it! For me it's the Default folder in the Input folder

Thanks a lot @Flappie for the discovery and for pointing me in the right direction.

@AJaromir I currently have a clean install. But I always copied my old files to savedGames. Have you tried starting the game without your saves in INPUT?

No, I never used backups. Every clean installation I manually re-assign controls.

Edited January 15 by AJaromir

[318_Bonzo]

This is a massacre. When something breaks in DCS, there's no fu*** way to know why
In general, I don't understand why this problem appeared at all, and after 24H2 installation.

I thought something went wrong with my Windows update. I didn't need to reinstall it.!!!

Edited January 15 by 318_Bonzo

[AJaromir]

I think there is definitely some issue when the data are being loaded into memory. Because as I have written above. I tried to preload aircraft in single player mission and then entered multiplayer mission. Because the files were already preloaded into memory, there was no freeze nor stutter at all. Because I have 64 gigs of RAM, I think it would not be any out of memory issue or slow drive issue (NVMe SSD). Maybe there is some very unique issue like in communication with host server. Really have no idea.

Edited January 15 by AJaromir

[MoleUK]

3 hours ago, 318_Bonzo said:

I found it! For me it's the Default folder in the Input folder

Thanks a lot @Flappie for the discovery and for pointing me in the right direction.

@AJaromir I also had a clean install. But I always copied my old files to Saved Games. Have you tried starting the game without your saves in INPUT?

Hm. This is interesting.

As it happens today I had to change an input due to getting a new keyboard with less keys, I had to rebind one of the UI keybinds (to bring up FPS graph), when I tried to change it my whole system almost came to a standstill (I was on a MP server sitting in a hind on the ground) while it updated all the modules to the new bind since it was a universal binding.

So I do wonder if it's struggling to load all the relevant aircraft bindings on role select? Seems odd but might be worth checking.

Edited January 15 by MoleUK

[318_Bonzo]

The joy was short-lived. The problem returned. Now, the game sometimes completely shuts down after selecting a plane.
I don't understand where the problem is anymore. One moment it's OK and then it freezes again. The first choice of plane/commander is problem-free - no matter what plane it is. After respawn and changing plane - crash.

Edited January 18 by 318_Bonzo

[Flappie]

1 minute ago, 318_Bonzo said:

The joy was short-lived. The problem returned. Now, the game sometimes completely shuts down after selecting a plane.

Please attach your dcs.log (may appear as "dcs" in Windows) and dcs.log.old files.