T4buk Posted February 11 Posted February 11 (edited) before any one from ED say the word clasified! ED can give us Su-27M* based on the existing FC3 Su-33 and Su-27 : - 12 paylone hardpoint (like Su-33) - refueling capability (like Su-33) - cheff, flare 96 *2 (like Su-27) - refreshing the cockpit with MFDs - bit enhanced radar, N011 Radar instead of N001 - adding R-77 like J-11 and adding some range to it, and called R-27EA - it will be awesome, if they choose thrust vectoring version bort #711 Aka Su-37 - and if you made it clickble full fidelity.. wow I buy per order Who is with it? * "I edit this post many times to fit in reality, from S-27SM to Su-27SMK to Su-27M" Edited March 4 by T4buk 13
Alexey_Aviation Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Su-27SM doesn't have refueling capability like Su-33 XD 1
T4buk Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 (edited) Quote 5 hours ago, Alexey_Aviation said: Su-27SM doesn't have refueling capability like Su-33 XD the upgraded Su-27S didnot had.. but the neu build of Su-27SM had. the 1st prototype of Su-27SM with Designation Su-27SK Nr: 305 was shown in Maks 2003. so in DCS we allow our self to use the neu one Edited February 12 by T4buk 2
T4buk Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 First (and only) prototype of upgrade Su-27S/P to Su-27SM standard previosly served as demonstrator of Su-30SMK and Su-30KI. With new configuration of weapons, avionics from RBKB and radar N001V developed by NIIP named after Tikhomirov take first flight in 12.2002, then was displayed to public on MAKS-2003. 1
MA_VMF Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 часа назад, T4buk сказал: the upgraded Su-27S didnot had.. but the neu build of Su-27SM had. the 1st prototype of Su-27SM with Designation Su-27SK Nr: 305 was shown in Maks 2003. so in DCS we allow our self to use the neu one nullThe Su-27SM does not have a refueling probe
upyr1 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 On 2/11/2025 at 1:24 PM, T4buk said: before any one from ED say the word clasified! ED can give us Su-27SMK based on the existing Su-27 : - adding 2 paylone hardpoint (SM3 upgrade) - adding refueling capability like Su-33 - refreshing the cockpit with MFDs -bit enhanced radar -adding R-77 like J-11 and adding some range to it, and called R-77-1 -and if you made it clickble full fidelity.. "Mamma Mia" = sale hit Who is with it? If we got the data then I'm game Flankers are cool
MA_VMF Posted February 13 Posted February 13 7 часов назад, T4buk сказал: @MA_VMF it has been updated to Su-27SMK The SMK exists in a single copy. It also has a different wing than the Su-27SM. 1
MA_VMF Posted February 13 Posted February 13 3 часа назад, T4buk сказал: @MA_VMF How different? the thickness of the wing profile is different 2
T4buk Posted February 26 Author Posted February 26 (edited) Su-27M bort #711 Aka Su-37 Edited February 26 by T4buk 1
bies Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Before considering classified Su-27M, which would be made up, completely unrealistic and with fictional avionics, weapons, systems, sensors, performance, with zero SME input and fine tuning etc. - let's wait if 1980s Soviet Su-27S will be possible and announced after the 1980s Soviet MiG-29 9.12. Reasonably realistic 1980s Soviet Su-27S, working like the real aircraft, would be a lot better then made up, unrealistic, fictional, extremely simplified Su-27M. When Su-27S would flight along other 1980s Soviet MiG-29, Su-25, MiG-23MLA, Su-17M, MiG-21bis, Mi-24P, Mi-8 etc., and against 1980s NATO F-14A/B, Tornado IDS, A-6E Intruder, A-7E Corsair, Bo-105, Mirage 2000, L-39, IAI Kfir, Mirage F.1, Viggen, Gazelle L, Huey, C-101, F-4E etc. 4 1
Evoman Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, bies said: Before considering classified Su-27M, which would be made up, completely unrealistic and with fictional avionics, weapons, systems, sensors, performance, with zero SME input and fine tuning etc. - let's wait if 1980s Soviet Su-27S will be possible and announced after the 1980s Soviet MiG-29 9.12. Reasonably realistic 1980s Soviet Su-27S, working like the real aircraft, would be a lot better then made up, unrealistic, fictional, extremely simplified Su-27M. When Su-27S would flight along other 1980s Soviet MiG-29, Su-25, MiG-23MLA, Su-17M, MiG-21bis, Mi-24P, Mi-8 etc., and against 1980s NATO F-14A/B, Tornado IDS, A-6E Intruder, A-7E Corsair, Bo-105, Mirage 2000, L-39, IAI Kfir, Mirage F.1, Viggen, Gazelle L, Huey, C-101, F-4E etc. The Su-27S would be far more useful as you pointed out being classified as a 1980's cold war era aircraft that would further contribute to balancing the era that is currently the most fleshed out. Edited February 26 by Evoman 2
T4buk Posted February 28 Author Posted February 28 Quote On 2/26/2025 at 12:06 PM, bies said: Before considering classified Su-27M, which would be made up, completely unrealistic and with fictional avionics, weapons, systems, sensors, performance, with zero SME input and fine tuning etc. - let's wait if 1980s Soviet Su-27S will be possible and announced after the 1980s Soviet MiG-29 9.12. Reasonably realistic 1980s Soviet Su-27S, working like the real aircraft, would be a lot better then made up, unrealistic, fictional, extremely simplified Su-27M. When Su-27S would flight along other 1980s Soviet MiG-29, Su-25, MiG-23MLA, Su-17M, MiG-21bis, Mi-24P, Mi-8 etc., and against 1980s NATO F-14A/B, Tornado IDS, A-6E Intruder, A-7E Corsair, Bo-105, Mirage 2000, L-39, IAI Kfir, Mirage F.1, Viggen, Gazelle L, Huey, C-101, F-4E etc. But we have already Su-27S my friend! DCS Su-27 is Su-27S.
Evoman Posted February 28 Posted February 28 13 minutes ago, T4buk said: But we have already Su-27S my friend! DCS Su-27 is Su-27S. Yes, but its not full fidelity with a clickable cockpit that I know of. That's why a full fidelity F-15C has been one of the top requested aircraft for years even though there is already a decent Flaming Cliffs 3 version. 4
T4buk Posted February 28 Author Posted February 28 (edited) Quote 9 hours ago, Evoman said: Yes, but its not full fidelity with a clickable cockpit that I know of. That's why a full fidelity F-15C has been one of the top requested aircraft for years even though there is already a decent Flaming Cliffs 3 version. But what will be in avionic different compare to the FC3 Su-27? other than the clickable keys. Edited February 28 by T4buk
Tom P Posted February 28 Posted February 28 If it's a prototype then we'll most definitely get it since we have the ka50 1
draconus Posted February 28 Posted February 28 5 hours ago, T4buk said: But what will be in avionic different compare to the FC3 Su-27? other than the clickable key. Advanced and more realistic simulation of the systems. 2 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
bies Posted March 3 Posted March 3 This eliminates the possibility of any Russian advanced module in the future. And eliminates the point of working on it at all - once it was released, the Russian government, obsessed with paranoia, could immediately block it any day and waste years of work, bringing the company to the brink of bankruptcy.
Velik Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Some greedy guys met some equally greedy guys. And they want royalties. Even now, this is just a small inconvenience. I understand that the "beach" fanboys are ready to make a sensation out of this. 2 Спойлер Wishlist: MiG-31BM, An-72P, YaK-38M, A-5 Vigilante, Textron Scorpion, YaK-3, He-162
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Velik said: Even now, this is just a small inconvenience. For us, totally. For someone with the resources and willingness to give us Russian aircraft? Not so sure. This could be disconcerting to someone like that. Though, it is curious that it only effects the rotary winged and not fixed. Edited March 3 by MiG21bisFishbedL Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
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