Moza inconsistent information about supported grips

[MAXsenna]

Clearly a case of loat in translation as the Moza representative doesn't know what cockpit means while they probably are referring to the software.
Guess this thread is done.

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[Nightdare]

41 minutes ago, trev5150 said:

All I'm trying to do is give the flight sim community the chance to see what happened

 

Ok, let's break that down: 

Moza said other grips don't work,...but they do

 

...the horror, the shame, , rivers of blood, , cats and dogs living together,...the non-news most people already know is incorrect, including you

And here you are screaming "look what they did to me, these CONMEN! How dare they!" as if some great tragedy has struck you, that -of course, will engulf the entire world and you, our saviour have warned us of this terrible future

 

All because a company with the main focus on sim racing, apparently has an employee that isn't up to speed handling the customer service desk

How could we venture the assumption this employee isn't informed? Because their own software does support other brand grips

 

So, conclusion:

Someone appears to be in error

All you are trying to do is create unnecessary drama over nothing

 

 

Sure,... could be Moza does decide to retract their plan for open support, but currently, there is neither an official statement, nor has the functionality been taken out of their software

 

 

We'll start the drama when they won't support Virpil's VFX grip 

[rob10]

19 hours ago, trev5150 said:

I simply showed that someone in their company lied to me in an email.

If they told you it worked but it didn't, then maybe I could see the point of your post.  But them telling you it won't work but it does?  Pretty hard to get upset about that.  Saying it DOESN'T work I imagine would be the default position if for some reason someone wasn't sure of an answer but was answering it anyway because there's a lot less chance of blowback if they say it doesn't work but it actually does.  In fairness, it's arguably in their own interest to "officially" claim it doesn't work since maybe that'll drive more people to buy their stick and base rather than just a base.  I can't really fault them for that either because any indication of support and you'll be back screaming that they won't help you with their competitors hardware.

I agree with previous posts, either there's a language issue or else you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

[The_Nephilim]

15 hours ago, trev5150 said:

They said they don’t support other grips when they clearly do support other grips. That’s the lie. 
You’re joining in the “you should calm down” rhetorical tactic. You should stop trying to tell people they’re wrong and they’re crazy and unsettled for calling attention to malfeasance. 

Whatever.. you did not read my post apparently..

[Aapje]

On 3/10/2025 at 8:17 AM, trev5150 said:

They said they don’t support other grips when they clearly do support other grips. That’s the lie. 
You’re joining in the “you should calm down” rhetorical tactic. You should stop trying to tell people they’re wrong and they’re crazy and unsettled for calling attention to malfeasance. 

You need to keep in mind that support is a very hard job, since they basically have to know everything about all the products, yet it is typically staffed by junior people who are not necessarily the brightest. And they are often overworked as well. So most likely, the person you talked to was misinformed and not intentionally lying.

This is a difficult topic anyway, since the support for third party sticks changes over time.

And we already know that Moza is not the most expensive company with the best support, so expectations are not on the level of Virpil or such.

Frankly, you sound like a rather unreasonable customer, who demands perfection and doesn't accept that other people accept cheaper products from companies that cut corners. It's not really a great look when you demand that the entire world adopt your personal preferences.

[Thadiun Okona]

21 hours ago, trev5150 said:

I am perfectly calm. I've been shot at and missed and sh!t at and hit and I'm good in ways you can never understand. All I'm trying to do is give the flight sim community the chance to see what happened so they can be aware and not just blindly trust that they're being taken care of for their money. Unfortunately, the flight sim community also includes people like you. I love how all you sycophants come out of the woodwork to jump on the "calm down" bandwagon. Y'all are hilarious. May you get taken for as much money as possible by a deposed prince via email, Mr. Benefit of the Doubt.

This is definitely how people that are calm behave. 

You can stop trying to save us simps of the flight sim community anytime you like. We're obviously too dumb to understand how BIG JOYSTICK is trying to scam us so you are wasting your energy tilting at windmills

[VirusAM]

hello...does someone know if Moza base is compatible with Realsimulator grips?
Thanks

[Aapje]

No clear information about this on the Discord.

[tekwoj]

On 5/16/2025 at 4:50 PM, VirusAM said:

hello...does someone know if Moza base is compatible with Realsimulator grips?
Thanks

If they are compatible with TM base, it MIGHT be compatible, but I would avoid MOZA anyway. They have a ton of issues and are not worth the money compared to other options FFB. Unless you're restricted by things like being able to mount it to your desk there's no reason to pick it up.

[zcaa0g]

Moza has the best looking force feedback base by far, but they can't code software or package software installers worth a beep.  It's almost comical.  I've never seen anything like it.

[tekwoj]

Not just software, firmware is bad too, right now their base is pulling a little above half advertised force for Direct Input forces.

[Mr_sukebe]

Just to add, I’ve recently moved from a Virpil alpha to an alpha prime on my AB9.  Both work fine.

[Shortcut]

I'm also using the alpha prime it works great. Tekwoj I hope you own the AB9 because mine is working fine and has plenty of force for my setup. for me FFB is here to stay.

[tekwoj]

17 hours ago, Shortcut said:

I'm also using the alpha prime it works great. Tekwoj I hope you own the AB9 because mine is working fine and has plenty of force for my setup. for me FFB is here to stay.

I do own one and I have reported this on their discord. I'm the guy who has written fixes for their export script to support chinook and kiowa. The forces that come from telemetry or cockpit app settings have full range, the forces that come from a game through direct input are not translated to the base's full range and cut off early. 

[Shortcut]

Thanks I learned something today and at my age that's a good thing. I guess like a lot of new products it's going to take a bit to get all the bugs out but I'm still enjoying it a lot more than my old TM Warthog or my Winwing.

[tekwoj]

2 hours ago, Shortcut said:

Thanks I learned something today and at my age that's a good thing. I guess like a lot of new products it's going to take a bit to get all the bugs out but I'm still enjoying it a lot more than my old TM Warthog or my Winwing.

Compared to regular joystick bases it's a night and day and I don't think I can go back to non-ffb experience anymore. Hardware seems solid, firmware and software though need a lot of work to fully unlock the base's potential.

[Mr_sukebe]

1 hour ago, tekwoj said:

Compared to regular joystick bases it's a night and day and I don't think I can go back to non-ffb experience anymore. Hardware seems solid, firmware and software though need a lot of work to fully unlock the base's potential.

+1.  Love mine, and that's coming from a Virpil base.