Art-J Posted March 16 Posted March 16 (edited) It's an old and reoccuring issue. Most likely your Defender or Antivirus deleted one of .dll files required for the module to work. Exclude your DCS folder, run a repair (to restore the file) and you're done. More details here: Edited March 16 by Art-J 1 i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
Morat Posted March 16 Posted March 16 This is getting detected by multiple AV programs, the answer should not be to disable AV but for ED/HB to fix it. ED don't get to say that their software is forever beyond suspicion and they should be excluded from AV scans. That's piss poor. 2
Silent Film Posted March 16 Posted March 16 I keep receiving this message for several days when I start the game. 1
SOLIDKREATE Posted March 16 Posted March 16 I disabled all AV and Windows Defender (all of it). The problem still persists. I have Windows 11 Home AVIONICS: ASUS BTF TUF MB, INTEL i9 RAPTORLAKE 24 CORE, 48GB PATRIOT VIPER TUF, 16GB ASUS RTX 4070ti SUPER, ASUS TUF 1000w PSU CONTROL: LOGI X-56 RHINO HOTAS, LOGI PRO RUDDER PEDALS, LOGI G733 LIGHTSPEED MAIN BIRDS: AJS37, MB339A, MIRAGE F1, Su-25A
scommander2 Posted March 16 Posted March 16 16 minutes ago, SOLIDKREATE said: I disabled all AV and Windows Defender (all of it). The problem still persists. The repair had performed? 2 Spoiler Dell XPS 9730, i9-13900H, DDR5 64GB, Discrete GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080, 1+2TB M.2 SSD | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + TPR | TKIR5/TrackClipPro | Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box | Win 11 Pro
Draken35 Posted March 16 Posted March 16 3 hours ago, Morat said: This is getting detected by multiple AV programs, the answer should not be to disable AV but for ED/HB to fix it. ED don't get to say that their software is forever beyond suspicion and they should be excluded from AV scans. That's piss poor. A bit earlier in this thread: Perhaps we should blame the people that makes the viruses ? 2
Zabuzard Posted March 16 Posted March 16 This is getting detected by multiple AV programs, the answer should not be to disable AV but for ED/HB to fix it. ED don't get to say that their software is forever beyond suspicion and they should be excluded from AV scans. That's piss poor.Kindly read through this and other similar threads in the Phantom subforum, as well as the Mirage and F-15 forum.It has been explained multiple times in detail, also already in this thread, why it is not really possible and why this is happening.Cheers 2
Rudel_chw Posted March 17 Posted March 17 4 hours ago, Morat said: This is getting detected by multiple AV programs, the answer should not be to disable AV but for ED/HB to fix it. ED don't get to say that their software is forever beyond suspicion and they should be excluded from AV scans. That's piss poor. Piss poor? ... what I find poor is this expectation of you that a fault of the Antivirus software, tagging as infected a file that is not, should somehow be solved by an entirely different company. Why don't you better go onto your AV company's forum and tell them that they are doing a piss poor job? 4 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
SOLIDKREATE Posted March 17 Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Zabuzard said: Kindly read through this and other similar threads in the Phantom subforum, as well as the Mirage and F-15 forum. It has been explained multiple times in detail, also already in this thread, why it is not really possible and why this is happening. Cheers I have zero AV running or Windows Defender. I'll wait until the next update. This only happened after the recent one we got. "Gypsy Roll", VF-32, 1994-1998. AVIONICS: ASUS BTF TUF MB, INTEL i9 RAPTORLAKE 24 CORE, 48GB PATRIOT VIPER TUF, 16GB ASUS RTX 4070ti SUPER, ASUS TUF 1000w PSU CONTROL: LOGI X-56 RHINO HOTAS, LOGI PRO RUDDER PEDALS, LOGI G733 LIGHTSPEED MAIN BIRDS: AJS37, MB339A, MIRAGE F1, Su-25A
Rudel_chw Posted March 17 Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, SOLIDKREATE said: I have zero AV running or Windows Defender. double check, if Windows see no 3rd party AV installed (even if outdated), it should enable Defender. You can check on "Windows Security", a green tick mark denotes a working Defender. 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
MAXsenna Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I have zero AV running or Windows Defender. I'll wait until the next update. This only happened after the recent one we got. "Gypsy Roll", VF-32, 1994-1998.You still haven't confirmed if you've done a repair after. And waiting for "an update" won't help you. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 2
MAXsenna Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I keep receiving this message for several days when I start the game. Apologies, but why did you start a new thread before you Googled it or search the forum? That goes for more than you.Your Anti-Virus solution has snagged an quarantined an important file. Exclude the DCS installation folders and Saved Games in your Anti-Virus solution and perform a repair, or verify your files integrity if you're on Steam.That's it!Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 5 1
SOLIDKREATE Posted March 17 Posted March 17 4 hours ago, Rudel_chw said: double check, if Windows see no 3rd party AV installed (even if outdated), it should enable Defender. You can check on "Windows Security", a green tick mark denotes a working Defender. 3 hours ago, MAXsenna said: You still haven't confirmed if you've done a repair after. And waiting for "an update" won't help you. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk I don't need a repair. I fresh installed it again. This is what I have. I cannot disable Account Protection. I have it turned off however it still shows as on. We also shoul;d not have to forego protection to use HB's product. I don't see how that is "our" problem. 1 AVIONICS: ASUS BTF TUF MB, INTEL i9 RAPTORLAKE 24 CORE, 48GB PATRIOT VIPER TUF, 16GB ASUS RTX 4070ti SUPER, ASUS TUF 1000w PSU CONTROL: LOGI X-56 RHINO HOTAS, LOGI PRO RUDDER PEDALS, LOGI G733 LIGHTSPEED MAIN BIRDS: AJS37, MB339A, MIRAGE F1, Su-25A
scommander2 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Is the file ""F14-HeatblurCommon.dll" still under ..../F-14/bin folder after the fresh installation? Spoiler Dell XPS 9730, i9-13900H, DDR5 64GB, Discrete GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080, 1+2TB M.2 SSD | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + TPR | TKIR5/TrackClipPro | Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box | Win 11 Pro
SOLIDKREATE Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 52 minutes ago, scommander2 said: Is the file ""F14-HeatblurCommon.dll" still under ..../F-14/bin folder after the fresh installation? What is the full address? Edited March 17 by SOLIDKREATE AVIONICS: ASUS BTF TUF MB, INTEL i9 RAPTORLAKE 24 CORE, 48GB PATRIOT VIPER TUF, 16GB ASUS RTX 4070ti SUPER, ASUS TUF 1000w PSU CONTROL: LOGI X-56 RHINO HOTAS, LOGI PRO RUDDER PEDALS, LOGI G733 LIGHTSPEED MAIN BIRDS: AJS37, MB339A, MIRAGE F1, Su-25A
SOLIDKREATE Posted March 17 Posted March 17 No that file is not there. I tried to install the A/C again through the game itself. AIt was still unauthorized. The only .dll's I saw were avionics and flight mofdel. I need to turn my stuff back on now because I'm not ctahcing computer AIDS for a module. I'm sure HB will fix this. AVIONICS: ASUS BTF TUF MB, INTEL i9 RAPTORLAKE 24 CORE, 48GB PATRIOT VIPER TUF, 16GB ASUS RTX 4070ti SUPER, ASUS TUF 1000w PSU CONTROL: LOGI X-56 RHINO HOTAS, LOGI PRO RUDDER PEDALS, LOGI G733 LIGHTSPEED MAIN BIRDS: AJS37, MB339A, MIRAGE F1, Su-25A
draconus Posted March 17 Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, SOLIDKREATE said: I'm sure HB will fix this. No, they won't and you need to repair DCS. If you choose to wait for the update it can happen again, maybe for another module. You can fly Tomcat now or stay stubborn - your choice. 2 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Silent Film Posted March 17 Posted March 17 5 hours ago, MAXsenna said: Apologies, but why did you start a new thread before you Googled it or search the forum? That goes for more than you. Your Anti-Virus solution has snagged an quarantined an important file. Exclude the DCS installation folders and Saved Games in your Anti-Virus solution and perform a repair, or verify your files integrity if you're on Steam. That's it! Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Thanks! 1
SOLIDKREATE Posted March 17 Posted March 17 36 minutes ago, draconus said: No, they won't and you need to repair DCS. If you choose to wait for the update it can happen again, maybe for another module. You can fly Tomcat now or stay stubborn - your choice. This is why I hate text. You're reading me all wrong. I'm not being stubborn. And how can you speak for their team? AVIONICS: ASUS BTF TUF MB, INTEL i9 RAPTORLAKE 24 CORE, 48GB PATRIOT VIPER TUF, 16GB ASUS RTX 4070ti SUPER, ASUS TUF 1000w PSU CONTROL: LOGI X-56 RHINO HOTAS, LOGI PRO RUDDER PEDALS, LOGI G733 LIGHTSPEED MAIN BIRDS: AJS37, MB339A, MIRAGE F1, Su-25A
Slippa Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I had this happen to me the other day. I set an exclusion for my DCS folder in Windows Defender then I did a long DCS repair. I rebooted and the problem was sorted. The way I understand it is that our AV software’s picking up stuff that it doesn’t recognise and automatically calling them trojans etc. We just have to tell our AV to ignore it and behave itself. Repair DCS and carry on. good luck with it. 2
Zabuzard Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, SOLIDKREATE said: We also shoul;d not have to forego protection to use HB's product. I don't see how that is "our" problem. I understand your frustration. But please understand that there is nothing we can do on our side to "fix" this problem. If you want to fly the aircraft, you either have to go through this or you have to wait until the Antivirus software distributors updated their databases to not flag this false-positive anymore. This process usually takes about 2-4 weeks and often has to be repeated after each DCS update again. This is not a new issue, multiple modules in DCS are suffering from this problem for multiple years already. Please understand that this is not a "we are too lazy to fix it on our side" issue. Our hands are tied on this. The AV distributors decided to flag this file and the only thing that can be done to stop this is to send in the file to them via a whitelisting request (which we always do on every DCS update). This process takes multiple weeks and has to be repeated on every single update. If you decide to wait for it to get resolved globally by the AV software distributors, you will likely run into the issue again in the future. Perhaps in 3 months, perhaps on another module, perhaps on another DLL file. It keeps happening and there is no way to stop it. Edited March 17 by Zabuzard 2 1
MAXsenna Posted March 17 Posted March 17 This is why I hate text. You're reading me all wrong. I'm not being stubborn. And how can you speak for their team? Apologies! I missed the part that you'd re-installed, which is a waste of time if you perform a repair. Why? Because the DCS Updater.exe performs both installations, updates and repairs.It for sure comes off as a tiny bit "stubbornness" that you don't even try a repair when it STILL doesn't work for you, while it does for everyone else. @draconus is also not speaking for Heatblur. His knowledge comes from experience, that when there's a DCS update. Those same files might get another signature, that might be flagged AGAIN by the different "Anti-Virus" vendors. This won't happen if a user excludes the whole DCS folder, and not single files. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 1
Art-J Posted March 17 Posted March 17 28 minutes ago, SOLIDKREATE said: This is why I hate text. You're reading me all wrong. I'm not being stubborn. And how can you speak for their team? Because we've read what they (HB Team) wrote multiple times already. They do what they can - send the files to AV providers for checking, but unless you're a big publisher, It takes 3 to 4 weeks to get the file whitlisted. Also, you're right NOT to disable the MS defender completely, but you also don't really have to do that. Module reinstall is is not required either (defender removed only one .dll file, why would you want to waste time resinstalling the whole module then). Defender allows you to exclude only chosen files and folders - use that option to exclude F-14 folder, or DCS folder in general (makes loading times much faster). Then use repair to restore the missing file and your Tomcat will work again. 1 i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
SOLIDKREATE Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I tried the repair with everything off (AV, FW ect). Made special rules to allow DCS and DCS MT The repair was successful. F-14 of any time is now not listed in the mission editor. This is either as USA or Combined Allied Forces (I forget exactly). It was selectable beforehand with the AV error, now it isn't. Uninstalled F-14 + Delete Re-Installed F-14 Still not listed in the ME. Isssue still persists. 1 minute ago, Art-J said: Because we've read what they (HB Team) wrote multiple times already. They do what they can - send the files to AV providers for checking, but unless you're a big publisher, It takes 3 to 4 weeks to get the file whitlisted. This is Horse#$%@, I guess money really does rule the world. Well none the less, see my post above this one. Seems like a bigger issue. It sucks that HB has to deal with this. I will stop talking about it now. I'll just chalk this one up to a loss. Okay brothers, now to go sink ships in eth Viggen =o). AVIONICS: ASUS BTF TUF MB, INTEL i9 RAPTORLAKE 24 CORE, 48GB PATRIOT VIPER TUF, 16GB ASUS RTX 4070ti SUPER, ASUS TUF 1000w PSU CONTROL: LOGI X-56 RHINO HOTAS, LOGI PRO RUDDER PEDALS, LOGI G733 LIGHTSPEED MAIN BIRDS: AJS37, MB339A, MIRAGE F1, Su-25A
MAXsenna Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) @SOLIDKREATE I understand your frustration. 1. Can you show us where in Defender you have excluded the DCS folders? Firewall has nothing to do with this. Turn on both AV and FW again. 2. There is only one DCS version now. MT. The MT bin folders/files are there just for compatibility for 3rd party apps/shortcuts, and will be removed. Bin=MT-bin. 3. Did you perform a full slow? It will take some time. 4. Mission Editor? Has the Historical Filter turned itself on? Clock icon bottom of the screen. Why on earth didn't you test a quick start mission? 5. See 4. 6 and 7. Why and why? It's the same as a repair, only slower. 8. See 4. I'm desperately crossing my fingers for you now! Edited March 17 by MAXsenna
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