keisentraut Posted March 22 Posted March 22 Since the last update, DCS is completely unplayable for me. Game stutters and freezes like crazy when there are objects around. It is tanking my entire computer often making me have to do a hard reboot because the game hung my CPU. I've already tried doing a fresh install of the game. I even went as far as to upgrade my RTX3080 to a RTX5080. Testing today shows it's just unplayable. I looked through the log and it looks like possibly whatever 'ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLE' is doing, this is the culprit. This log was in a F/18 on autopilot flying in a circle above the mountains while I looked around. dcs.zip 1
rob10 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) Not sure WinWing software is the culprit. There really aren't other reports other than this one (little or nothing in the WinWing subforum here which should have a bunch of reports) and others (like myself) are running it with no issues. What someone is looking into is how you have your MFD's positioned and whether having a "taller" setup (MFD's below the main screen rather than beside) is maybe part of the issue. That's purely speculative too at this point. In a quick look at your log I'd try getting rid of Process Lasso. It seems to be causing rather than helping issues currently (DCS is doing a better job of managing cores). Edited March 22 by rob10
keisentraut Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 So here's an update... I turned off my WinWing MFDs and the game runs flawlessly. I had a buddy who was having the same issue with a different set of MFDs. He turned his USB displays off and the game ran great for him. So our theory is... based on two different brands of USB displays... that something in the latest DCS update messed up the ability for our PCs to process those types of displays from a CPU level. I really hope DCS is looking into this and finds a resolution. 1
Flappie Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Please ensure you are NOT running DCS as Administrator. If you are, revert this setting then retry your MFDs. 1 ---
Reflected Posted March 25 Posted March 25 I'm also getting massive freezes from time to time since the last update. I don't have WW MFDs, and I'm not running DCS as admin. I do have WW gear though, but the WW software is not running either. 1 Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord
minar Posted April 19 Posted April 19 I am having issues since the last update. DCS will freeze complete while I am in a cockpit of any aircraft at times. Then it will crash my PC completely. Never ever had this issue before. In the log I see this at the end.' 2025-04-19 20:13:26.650 WARNING BACKENDCOMMON (21136): Need to reprocess [DDS] image '/textures/AH-64D_inside_D_Normal.dds'. Reason: Conversion requires - expanded pixel size, setting alpha to known value. Source is an 8:8:8 (24bpp) format 2025-04-19 20:13:26.993 WARNING BACKENDCOMMON (9348): Need to reprocess [DDS] image '/textures/ah64_pilot_seat_all_Normal.dds'. Reason: Conversion requires - expanded pixel size, setting alpha to known value. Source is an 8:8:8 (24bpp) format 2025-04-19 20:13:28.475 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND (13588): texture 'tigr233036_normal.bmp' not found. Asked from '' 2025-04-19 20:13:35.452 INFO VISUALIZER (Main): Preload() finished 2025-04-19 20:13:35.794 INFO Dispatcher (Main): precache units resources in slots 2025-04-19 20:13:37.376 INFO EDCORE (Main): Created game pool: h:2 n:6 l:8 2025-04-19 20:13:37.376 INFO Dispatcher (Main): loadMission Done: Control passed to the player 2025-04-19 20:13:55.260 INFO DX11BACKEND (2340): Compile shader: deferred/blurCompute.fx 2025-04-19 20:13:56.164 WARNING LOG (21864): 23 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-04-19 20:13:56.164 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:13:56.702 WARNING LOG (21864): 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-04-19 20:13:56.702 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2025-04-19 20:14:05.248 WARNING LOG (21864): 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-04-19 20:14:05.248 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:14:05.381 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2025-04-19 20:14:10.386 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:14:10.511 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2025-04-19 20:17:38.940 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:17:39.085 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2025-04-19 20:17:41.396 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:17:41.500 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME Very weird.
silverdevil Posted April 19 Posted April 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, minar said: I am having issues since the last update. DCS will freeze complete while I am in a cockpit of any aircraft at times. Then it will crash my PC completely. Never ever had this issue before. In the log I see this at the end.' 2025-04-19 20:13:26.650 WARNING BACKENDCOMMON (21136): Need to reprocess [DDS] image '/textures/AH-64D_inside_D_Normal.dds'. Reason: Conversion requires - expanded pixel size, setting alpha to known value. Source is an 8:8:8 (24bpp) format 2025-04-19 20:13:26.993 WARNING BACKENDCOMMON (9348): Need to reprocess [DDS] image '/textures/ah64_pilot_seat_all_Normal.dds'. Reason: Conversion requires - expanded pixel size, setting alpha to known value. Source is an 8:8:8 (24bpp) format 2025-04-19 20:13:28.475 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND (13588): texture 'tigr233036_normal.bmp' not found. Asked from '' 2025-04-19 20:13:35.452 INFO VISUALIZER (Main): Preload() finished 2025-04-19 20:13:35.794 INFO Dispatcher (Main): precache units resources in slots 2025-04-19 20:13:37.376 INFO EDCORE (Main): Created game pool: h:2 n:6 l:8 2025-04-19 20:13:37.376 INFO Dispatcher (Main): loadMission Done: Control passed to the player 2025-04-19 20:13:55.260 INFO DX11BACKEND (2340): Compile shader: deferred/blurCompute.fx 2025-04-19 20:13:56.164 WARNING LOG (21864): 23 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-04-19 20:13:56.164 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:13:56.702 WARNING LOG (21864): 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-04-19 20:13:56.702 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2025-04-19 20:14:05.248 WARNING LOG (21864): 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-04-19 20:14:05.248 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:14:05.381 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2025-04-19 20:14:10.386 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:14:10.511 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2025-04-19 20:17:38.940 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:17:39.085 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME 2025-04-19 20:17:41.396 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: ANTIFREEZE ENABLED 2025-04-19 20:17:41.500 WARNING WORLD (Main): ModelTimeQuantizer: SAME MODEL TIME Very weird. hello. it might be better to start your own topic and attach the entire dcs.log. check here too. Edited April 19 by silverdevil AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.
anlq Posted April 20 Posted April 20 (edited) I have the same problem with DCS in 2D, computer freezes randomly. In VR I don't have problem until now. Edited April 20 by anlq
Pizzicato Posted April 27 Posted April 27 I'm having the same issue with a lot of micropauses and stutters, all of which sync up with ModelTimeQuantizer:ANTIFREEZE ENABLED or ModelTimeQuantizer:SAME MODEL TIME messages in the log. As as example (attached), that's 15 such messages in 7 seconds. I don't have any WinWIng peripherals, and I'm not running as administrator. i7-7700K @ 4.9Ghz | 16Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | MSI Z270 Gaming M7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti Gaming X | Win 10 Home | Thrustmaster Warthog | MFG Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift S
AnarchyZG Posted April 28 Posted April 28 No freezing for me, only one crash, but performance definitely took a hit, dropping from previous 70fps to teens...especially F-4 (even with all performance enhancements turned on). Oddly enough, CPU/GPU hover around 40-50% load so no clear bottleneck is identifiable, I checked VRAM it seems to keep steady at 10GB (I have 12GB) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] MATRIC developer Check out MATRIC and forget about keyboard shortcuts
PawelKPL Posted April 29 Posted April 29 (edited) same problem here, I have 13700k, rtx4080, 64GB, never had any problem like that , now it freezes for 4-5 seconds randomly.... no WW MFD, no admin mode. Edited April 29 by PawelKPL
sleighzy Posted April 30 Posted April 30 @AnarchyZG, @PawelKPL, can you please attach your DCS log files, and dcs.log.<timestamp>.zip (contains crashes), files. Would be valuable to see if you're experiencing the same issues as reported by other users, or something else unrelated. 1 AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
PawelKPL Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Hello, The funny thing is, I switched to Windows 11 on other SSD disk I have with old nvidia 555.13 drivers. ZERO PROBLEMS, even in VR. Now I'm reinstalling nvidia drivers on my Win10. I let you know results.
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