Arne Anka Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Hello I am currently creating a campaign. I was thinking of creating one where in all missions, there will be one KA-50 group and one A-10 group, both with interesting tasks, that in the plot also are entwined. So, will this campaign in any way be usable in both games, without huge amounts of redesigning (I understand that I of course have to make minor adjustments)? In other words, the idea with this setup is to experience a campaign from two "perspectives", not necessarily from different coalitions... Intel Duo E8500 | 4 Gb RAM | HD4850 x 2 Crossfire | Vista Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inseckt Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Great idea! Hope you get good answers... Help Beczl with his DCS MiG-21Bis project by Pre-Ordering DCS MiG-21Bis module NOW! CLICK HERE TO GO TO PRE-ORDER PAGE AT INDIEGOGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 A good question... which needs a good answer? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The plan has always been to make the modules network compatible. I certainly do not suggest making a dual campaign however until the A-10C is released. Concept, scripting/staging, sure - actual in-game missions, not so much. No one at this point can really predict how compatible the mission format will be (ie. please remember that Ka-50 ME will also be updated) so it might be a good idea to hold off a bit. If you do want to take the risk, I think ED might be looking to ensure things are reasonably compatible anyway, and should that fall by the wayside, I'm some someone can write a reasonable importer. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arne Anka Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 GGTharos, thank you for your response. Of course I will not spend huge amounts of time until I am certain, but there is still interesting to think about it, when you start to think of new missions/campaigns Intel Duo E8500 | 4 Gb RAM | HD4850 x 2 Crossfire | Vista Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertard Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Intended Product != Final Product. There's no guranatees in the real world. I just hope the intention can be followed through. :) The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Falcon Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 maybe an idea if someone made an poll about it to get an idea how many players would like or expect this kind of compatibility? And how about if that would mean an delay of a month orso for the next release? (im bad at making polls....... hence i hardly make em) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertard Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 (edited) Why a poll for an intended feature? Why all these polls at all - they are quite static. Posts with reasoning and suggestions are so much better :) What I would expect (aka hoping for) from the intergration between BS and A10 is: - A mission can be designed and utilitized on both platforms - BS and A10 users can play online together on the same server. - Host a server for BOTH the DCS:BS and the A10 - in the same session / instance. (And not have to choose which one to host for). Missions themselves should be able to define how many of each type / flights available. - Other resources made / changed in one sim - should be reflected in the other (skins / vehicle mods etc). Normally I would expect the series to use the same "installation instance", re-using the resources already made and installed for the other. Also, I would expect that if someone buys A10, he wont get the BS - simply because those resources will be missing from the "installation". So basicly I guess it will be divided up like this: - A set of shared resources, world, objects, game logic etc - A set of flyable cockpit, modelling, logic for the BS - A set of flyable cockpit, modelling, logic for the A10 With DCS:BS you already got the first two. Now - if you expect to "share settings" between those two sims / cockpits - settings like Flare/Chaff dispenser (lua hacks) settings - you may not be able to do that, since those are "model specific". Edited July 29, 2009 by Panzertard The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolasindar Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 People, ED ever say all products of DCS series are mutually compatible. It is one of its main features announced. Do not speculate on something that is already confirmed. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Cavallers del Cel - Comunintat Catalana de Simulació http://www.cavallersdelcel.cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG14_Smil Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 it is not speculation to look back at the past, seeing another sim that was supposed to be multi platform in the same way, become outdated and not compatable. Then one can think that my favorite sim (BS) is already a dated platform and no, it is not speculation to worry it may find the same fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolasindar Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Janes was the only series that is as in a similar way, and not even get to sell the idea. DCS is not only an idea, it's a reality check that with the A10. Indeed, multi-platform means PC-Consoles-Others etc ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Cavallers del Cel - Comunintat Catalana de Simulació http://www.cavallersdelcel.cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inseckt Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I know all modules were announced to be compatible, but latley there has been some "hints" from members of ED that they are having certain "difficulties" making the modules as compatible as first announced... We know nothing spesific, so I think it is fair to be speculating on this. Or maybe the opposite but for the same reason.... Help Beczl with his DCS MiG-21Bis project by Pre-Ordering DCS MiG-21Bis module NOW! CLICK HERE TO GO TO PRE-ORDER PAGE AT INDIEGOGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3flyboy Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I ultimately think it will have to boil down to the individual sims as "Mods" built off a base platform... just like how you have DLC in various games, or how COH has the ability to unlock content on the game by adding CD keys. Current Sims: DCS Black Shark, Falcon 4.0, X-Plane 9, Steel Beasts Pro PE, IL-2 1946, ArmA 2, FSX, Rise of Flight, EECH, Harpoon 3 ANW, CSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Compatibility of modules should be like the #2 priority. Its so important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 you could say FC was a module to LOMAC....:noexpression: The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadsmell Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 yeah whats all this?, I thought that was a 100% deal that all the dcs modules would work together? I thought by the end of this thing wed be seeing missions with ka-50's, a-10's, apache, and su, all in the same mission playing together? Dont let the smell get to ya............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Nothing is ever set in stone. You can go from living comfortably to just barely making it in a heartbeat. What I'm trying to say is sh!t 'always' happens, and when you want sh1t to happen, it doesn't. Such is life mijo. In the end, I do trust ED will do what is best for them as well as their customers. If that means we meet them half way then so be it. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3flyboy Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Nothing is ever set in stone. You can go from living comfortably to just barely making it in a heartbeat. What I'm trying to say is sh!t 'always' happens, and when you want sh1t to happen, it doesn't. Such is life mijo. In the end, I do trust ED will do what is best for them as well as their customers. If that means we meet them half way then so be it. My suggestion in general is to just do it the DLC style or the Rise of Flight style.... Have a main DCS program, you install it off the disc or download site, and it installs the base sim and the module you bought. Then as a new module comes out, you can buy it ingame, in a store, or off the site, and add the code to the sim, unlocking the new content. Current Sims: DCS Black Shark, Falcon 4.0, X-Plane 9, Steel Beasts Pro PE, IL-2 1946, ArmA 2, FSX, Rise of Flight, EECH, Harpoon 3 ANW, CSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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