Trim Too Fast

[aphill]

 I would like to be able to slow down the rate that the trim wheels turn with the hat switch on the joystick, it moves too fast. (too sensitive)

I remember having to do that for the Mosquito early on and it was with a lua file. I just don't remember all the details. Anyone remember that?

 

[JupiterJoe]

Wouldn't each update erase any changes you made?   I suspect we'll see more nuance added to the flight-model and improvements to the FFB model as development continues, as we did with the Mustang. 

[aphill]

Well yes but you just make a copy and paste it back in after the update. I can't remember if I duplicated the folders in saved games or not. It work very well though. DCS did fix the issue in an update.

Its no big deal I just enjoy tweaking things.

Thanks for the reply.

[LeCuvier]

13 hours ago, aphill said:

 I would like to be able to slow down the rate that the trim wheels turn with the hat switch on the joystick, it moves too fast. (too sensitive)

I remember having to do that for the Mosquito early on and it was with a lua file. I just don't remember all the details. Anyone remember that?

 

I have added LUA lines for slower versions of the trim functions (rather than modifying the existing ones). As I'm using the "Command Injector" by @Quaggles, I entered them in a "default.lua" file under Saved Games. This eliminates the rework associated with changes/additions in the stock file at the time of updates. Here are the lines I added:

{pressed = device_commands.iCommandElevatorTrim, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL, value_pressed = 0.001, name = _('Trim, nose down SLOW'), category = _('Flight Control')}, 
{pressed = device_commands.iCommandElevatorTrim, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL, value_pressed = -0.001, name = _('Trim, nose up SLOW'), category = _('Flight Control')}, 
{pressed = device_commands.iCommandEleronsTrim, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL, value_pressed = -0.001, name = _('Trim, left bank SLOW'), category = _('Flight Control')}, 
{pressed = device_commands.iCommandEleronsTrim, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL, value_pressed = 0.001, name = _('Trim, right bank SLOW'), category = _('Flight Control')}, 
{pressed = device_commands.iCommandRudderTrim, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL, value_pressed = -0.001, name = _('Trim, yaw left SLOW'), category = _('Flight Control')}, 
{pressed = device_commands.iCommandRudderTrim, cockpit_device_id = devices.CONTROL, value_pressed = 0.001, name = _('Trim, yaw right SLOW'), category = _('Flight Control')}, 

As you will see, I only needed to change the value for "value_pressed".

Note I tested only one of the lines; but as they all follow the same pattern that should be safe. If you run into a problem let me know.

Edited June 23 by LeCuvier

[aphill]

So drop the default lua file in saved games?

[_Hoss]

I'm lucky I have a trim box with wheels, so I don't have to use the trim hat on the stick. I had to really de-tune mine because they moved to fast. I have that problem with other modules, too. The F-86 is a pain because I use the stick trim hat. It does move way too fast. 

[aphill]

I wish they would give us the ability to set a curve on the trim.

[motoadve]

2 hours ago, _Hoss said:

I'm lucky I have a trim box with wheels, so I don't have to use the trim hat on the stick. I had to really de-tune mine because they moved to fast. I have that problem with other modules, too. The F-86 is a pain because I use the stick trim hat. It does move way too fast. 

I also have a trim box, how did you de tuned it?

[LeCuvier]

6 hours ago, aphill said:

So drop the default lua file in saved games?

No,not that simple. Go to this post to get the info: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/270487-quaggles-dcs-input-command-injector-mod-v109-store-custom-input-commands-safely-in-saved-games-instead-of-merging-them-with-developer-changes-each-update/#comment-4651461

[MAXsenna]

I wish they would give us the ability to set a curve on the trim.

You can if you use an analog wheel, while I'm not sure if you want to do that with such an axis. What we need is to be able to set the trim speed, like in the free A-4E-C community module, and what we had in the free MB-339 community module. I don't remember, but I think they were gonna implement it in the paid version too.

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[Wrench]

I'm drawing a blank on the name, but there is a JSGME/OVGME mod that handles custom control binds, should be able to add a custom bind that like

"Trim 1/10" pretty sure I've used it for that in other A/C before. 

 

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https://forum.dcs.world/topic/270487-quaggles-dcs-input-command-injector-mod-store-custom-input-commands-safely-in-saved-games-instead-of-merging-them-with-developer-changes-each-update/?do=getNewComment

Edited June 25 by Wrench

[LeCuvier]

15 minutes ago, Wrench said:

I'm drawing a blank on the name, but there is a JSGME/OVGME mod that handles custom control binds, should be able to add a custom bind that like

"Trim 1/10" pretty sure I've used it for that in other A/C before. 

 

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https://forum.dcs.world/topic/270487-quaggles-dcs-input-command-injector-mod-store-custom-input-commands-safely-in-saved-games-instead-of-merging-them-with-developer-changes-each-update/?do=getNewComment

JSGME is an older program, and OvGME is more recent. I use OvGME to back up and restore modded files like cockpit glass etc, and the one file @Quaggles had to modify in the game folder structure. Unfortunately, @sedenion no longer supports this tool. Also, OvGME does not help you with the issues that arise when the developer adds new bindings to the "default.lua". This happens quite often especially with new modules that are in Early Access. You are then obliged to compare the new version with your modded version, and add your additions to the new file, except when some of the developer's additions do the same as your additions in the modded file. 
The Command Injector avoids these issues.

[fargo007]

I feel the opposite, and wish they were actually a bit faster.

[Sprool]

On 6/23/2025 at 3:51 AM, aphill said:

 I would like to be able to slow down the rate that the trim wheels turn with the hat switch on the joystick, it moves too fast. (too sensitive)

I remember having to do that for the Mosquito early on and it was with a lua file. I just don't remember all the details. Anyone remember that?

 

 

[aphill]

Thanks Sprool that's what I was looking for.

[javelina1]

there's a mod for the Jug to slow down the trim.  I was using it before I dropped from the Jug to fly the Corsair.

[Hayrake YE-ZB]

9 hours ago, fargo007 said:

I feel the opposite, and wish they were actually a bit faster.

Me too. I don’t find them fast at all.

If it were realistic, it would move in steps, simulating the pilot turning the wheels and knobs in quarter turn increments at the most!

[buur]

All your inputs into the game is depending to your frame rate. Button down is detected in the first frame, button release in the second. If you have 10 frames per second on your pc than it is like you have pressed the button for 0.1 seconds. If your pc hat 100 frames per second it is like you have pressed the button for 0.01 seconds. With a higher frame rate your trim is much more sensitive. And therefore we have all individual computers the trim speed is different for each individual player. 

There is a smallest input possible depending on the frame rate. And this is what you feel as trim sensitivity. 

Edited June 26 by buur

[_Hoss]

Get one of these from K51.... he's here on the forums. Some restrictions on shipping to certain countries.

8 axis, you can have the knobs as rotories, mine are pots. You can de-tune... slow down speed in axis tune. 

 

[MAXsenna]

Get one of these from K51.... he's here on the forums. Some restrictions on shipping to certain countries.

8 axis, you can have the knobs as rotories, mine are pots. You can de-tune... slow down speed in axis tune. 
 

Have been thinking about that one. I take it you're happy with it? Pots are obviously best for axis.

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[_Hoss]

It's fantastic, the two levers in the rear I either use for RPM and Mixture, or on the Mustang I use them for the Carb heat and Ram Air. And then I'll use the knobs for RPM and Mixture. But it's great.