check dtc procedures CMDS_ALE47.lua not Respected

[ExNusquam]

I believe there has been a change where CMDS_ALE47.lua isn't loaded into the aircraft.  Custom CMDS files are now broken.

[Tholozor]

Countermeasures are loaded through the data cartridge function now. Editing the lua is no longer required.

 

[ExNusquam]

That doesn't work in MP - I have no way of presetting CMS settings if the mission designer hasn't done it already.

Edited July 2 by ExNusquam

[MARLAN_]

The DTC editor doesn't let you set your interval less than 250ms which is silly (it'll be overridden to 250ms once you load it in game)

There are plenty of videos online showing much lower intervals.

I was personally using 100ms from my testing for a good profile.

I would be fine with a more sensible limit. Obviously releasing flares 1ms each would be ridiculous, but 250ms is also way too slow.

[MARLAN_]

Checking docs shows a 125ms release is officially supported

 

[Tholozor]

7 hours ago, ExNusquam said:

That doesn't work in MP - I have no way of presetting CMS settings if the mission designer hasn't done it already.

You can create a custom cartridge profile with all your CMDS settings and load it in MP. The 'FILE' option at the top of the DTC menu is actually a button that will allow you to import a user-made profile.

[rob10]

Alternative that I discovered today is to change the default DTC loadout to save you the step of going into the DTC manager to load that file everytime.  You still have to load it in the MUMI page, but that's less of a headache than loading the cartridge profile if you use the same settings all the time.

You can change it here:  DCS World/coremods/aircraft/FA-18C/DTC/defs.lua

No idea if it impact IC as I haven't tested that.

[paura19]

I believe, that CMDS_47.lua has bug with change of number of programs or MAN1 is not loaded in aircraft.

Default:


Custom program that MAN1 program is omitted. But why?

Edited July 26 by paura19

[rob10]

That file no long does anything since the DTC was introduced.  See this thread:

 

[Smashy]

17 hours ago, paura19 said:

I believe, that CMDS_47.lua has bug with change of number of programs or MAN1 is not loaded in aircraft.

When the DTC was introduced, the CMDS_ALE47.lua file got borked.  All of the program definitions are offset by one.  It's like someone went from a 1-indexed array to a 0-indexed one

For example, ProgramNames.MAN_2 is seen in the cockpit as "MAN 1".  This continues in similar fashion until ProgramNames.AUTO_1 being the same as the wall dispense button (MAN 6).

You can use this workaround if you don't want to use the DTC until the issue is resolved.  I'm pretty sure this breaks IC so it's not the greatest hack.

[GumidekCZ]

On 7/26/2025 at 10:50 AM, paura19 said:

I believe, that CMDS_47.lua has bug with change of number of programs or MAN1 is not loaded in aircraft.

Default:


Custom program that MAN1 program is omitted. But why?

nullI found my own hot fix by adding +1 to original "0" zero value of script counter. IT WORKS, tested.

[GumidekCZ]

still not fixed by latest patch  

program 1 not showing. Program 2 defined in Lua is number 1 in sim.
c:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\FA-18C\Cockpit\Scripts\TEWS\device\CMDS_ALE47.lua

Edited Saturday at 09:39 AM by GumidekCZ

[BIGNEWY]

On 8/16/2025 at 10:38 AM, GumidekCZ said:

still not fixed by latest patch  

program 1 not showing. Program 2 defined in Lua is number 1 in sim.
c:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\FA-18C\Cockpit\Scripts\TEWS\device\CMDS_ALE47.lua

Hi, 

there is no bug here, its managed via the DTC now. 

thank you 

[GumidekCZ]

On 8/18/2025 at 10:06 AM, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, 

there is no bug here, its managed via the DTC now. 

thank you 

But how Im supposed to put my favourite CMDS programs into any DCS default mission without edditing it in first?
Because by throwing out of window above mentioned Lua file, your team literaly denied player such posibility

There is no in game method of editting DEFAULT DTC which would be opened in every mission  or am I wrong?

Edited 16 hours ago by GumidekCZ

[Phantom711]

@GumidekCZ

Not at my PC right now, but does the „Open DTC“ button not appear when you start one of these missions? 
You can load a DTC file with the respective CMDS settings you like there and then activate it in the MUMI page as advertised.

The whole process of loading a custom DTC is not very intuitive though. You need to press on „File“ which totally doesn‘t look like a button at all. And after you pressed „Load“ there is also zero feedback. Guess it‘s not an Apple product…

I works though…

EDIT: The described process assumes you had created and saved a custom DTC file before. 

Edited 16 hours ago by Phantom711

[GumidekCZ]

@Phantom711Thanks, just now, the friend of mine told me the same advice.

THIS IS *** I would say *** NOT CLEAVER *** SOLUTION.
PLEASE @BIGNEWY We SHOULD BE ABLE to make out DTC - DEFAULT one, and this mentioned NON-intuitive process have as backup for special cases, where not even our default one is well suited for mission you are about to fly.

Edited 16 hours ago by GumidekCZ

[rob10]

1 hour ago, GumidekCZ said:

@Phantom711Thanks, just now, the friend of mine told me the same advice.

THIS IS *** I would say *** NOT CLEAVER *** SOLUTION.
PLEASE @BIGNEWY We SHOULD BE ABLE to make out DTC - DEFAULT one, and this mentioned NON-intuitive process have as backup for special cases, where not even our default one is well suited for mission you are about to fly.

Go to my post above and it will point you to the file you need to edit that loads as default DTC now.  You still need to load it in the plane system (in the F-18 anyway), but you won't have to load the file each time.

[GumidekCZ]

1 hour ago, rob10 said:

Go to my post above and it will point you to the file you need to edit that loads as default DTC now.  You still need to load it in the plane system (in the F-18 anyway), but you won't have to load the file each time.

Thanks( I know about that file), but thats just workaround, that is not systematic solution worth of mil sim like DCS suppose to be.

[rob10]

7 hours ago, GumidekCZ said:

Thanks( I know about that file), but thats just workaround, that is not systematic solution worth of mil sim like DCS suppose to be.

If you want full sim level then load the file before you get in the plane. You can set up all the things you want in the DTC and save it to a file.That simulates sticking the cartridge in where you need it.  Explanation before my latest post is how to do that.  Not sure how changing the original version of the DTC file to a default is any less of systematic solution or any more realistic.  If you don't like what's in the default, before you hit the fly button there is an option to go in and change the file to what you want for that mission (that's what an IRL pilot would do).  I'm really unclear what you are asking for that's different to the current situation?

[BIGNEWY]

12 hours ago, GumidekCZ said:

Thanks( I know about that file), but thats just workaround, that is not systematic solution worth of mil sim like DCS suppose to be.

The work on the DTC aims for realism, its something that has been ask for by many for a long time. 

I'm sorry its not what you want but that is how it is. 

thank you