Tire pop!

[Mainstay]

I seriously hope the tires dont pop on the full fidelity version as it does on the FC3 version. 

Kinda weird how fast they break on the MiG while flying on all other sorts of jets i have 0 issues.

[Ironhand]

That’s curious. I’ve only had a blowout once that I can remember and that was the result of a truly horrible landing. Perhaps I’ve just been lucky. In what circumstances does this most frequently occur?

[skywalker22]

18 hours ago, Mainstay said:

I seriously hope the tires dont pop on the full fidelity version as it does on the FC3 version. 

Kinda weird how fast they break on the MiG while flying on all other sorts of jets i have 0 issues.

In FC3 tire pop up is modeled pretty accurately. Tires start to pop up after passing 200 kts. It also depends on the total weight, clean can take much more speed before tires pop up.

Also not, Mig-29 accelerates pretty fast, and you are at 200 kts in almost no time. Mig-29 take off speed is bettween 150 and 160 kts! Remember that. 

 

[Astralox65]

I had the same problem with 29 and someone told me that I should never use brake on take off with mig because trust is too powerful for tires and since then I never blow up tires. Hopefully that helps you if you didn’t try. 

[Ironhand]

Hard to tell what the issue is until/unless Mainstay responds. @skywalker22 is correct. It’s very easy to get behind the aircraft. Normally, the aircraft takes off using full mil power with flaps extended. If you take off by the numbers, you pull back on the stick between 230-250 km/hr and, as the nose wheel comes off, settle the nose on 10 degrees pitch. The mains will follow a second or two later. Usually you’re airborne by 280 km/hr.

If using afterburner, everything happens much faster. IIRC, you start pulling back on the stick around 170-180 km/hr. By the time you get it anywhere near the right amount, you’re at the 240-250 km/hr mark.

[Mainstay]

It’s not the takeoff that’s giving me trouble. 
It’s the landings! I make sure I have less then 40% fuel and most of the time I dropped the external centerline tank. 
Anyways it comes down to coming home light instead of heavy. 
Touching down at around 300kph and not breaking to hard.
Sometimes it works and sometimes one of the rear tires pops… seems like it’s just a dice roll for it to happen.

[Ironhand]

15 hours ago, Mainstay said:

It’s not the takeoff that’s giving me trouble. 
It’s the landings! I make sure I have less then 40% fuel and most of the time I dropped the external centerline tank. 
Anyways it comes down to coming home light instead of heavy. 
Touching down at around 300kph and not breaking to hard.
Sometimes it works and sometimes one of the rear tires pops… seems like it’s just a dice roll for it to happen.

300 km/hr is too fast. And that you need to do that suggests that you’re landing too hard as well. The fastest speed I’ve ever touched down was 290 and I was seriously overweight. With about 60% fuel and 4AAMs you should be touching down in the 270-280 km/hr range. With around 1,500 kg fuel remaining and 2 AAMs, I’m usually touch down in the 250-260 range.

You need to come in flatter in this bird. Otherwise, you will end up landing too fast and too hard.

EDIT: Just attached a TRK file landing at Kutaisi with 6AAMs and a bit less than 60% fuel (roughly 13,700 kg gross weight, I think). Touchdown speed was 270 km/hr. Note the slow descent rate at the end. Just before crossing the threshold you should begin slowly pulling the stick back. Just don't let your nose pitch higher than 10° (11° at most) or you might cause an engine strike as you touch down. In the end, it'll be just about in your lap as your wheels touch.

Mig-29A Kutaisi Landing 13700kg.trk

Edited Wednesday at 02:16 PM by Ironhand

[SAM77]

Also, you will pop a tyre if you land unevenly. I don't know at what speed you are hitting the brakes or if you are using the drag chute. If you're not using the drag chute, I would suggest you start and wait till your speed is down to 220km/h before hitting the brakes. Just to add that drag chute deploy max speed is 310km/h and brake application at 220km/h or lower. I got those numbers from the German MiG29 manual.

[AeriaGloria]

Per manual 

Highest takeoff speed: 375 kmh 

Highest landing speed: 330 kmh 

Limited by strength of tire 

Braking speed: 215 kmh 

 

[draconus]

20 hours ago, Ironhand said:

In what circumstances does this most frequently occur?

It's when you're speeding at 260 on the tarmac and you realised you're in the G and it was in knots

[pjbunnyru]

not once did tires pop during landing.
but i landed of les than 2000 kg. suspensions r diferent: from 0 rockets to all 6))
landing speed is about 280 km/h at 300 its leap of faith (like in assassin's creed).
braking at speed of even 280 km/h didnt lead to tire pop.

[BIGNEWY]

On 7/14/2025 at 10:49 PM, Mainstay said:

I seriously hope the tires dont pop on the full fidelity version as it does on the FC3 version. 

Kinda weird how fast they break on the MiG while flying on all other sorts of jets i have 0 issues.

Usually caused by over speed or over weight landings, attach a track replay example so we can analyse

thank you 

[Mainstay]

Thnx for the replies and will do some test flights when i find some spare time

[Ironhand]

48 minutes ago, Mainstay said:

Thnx for the replies and will do some test flights when i find some spare time

@Mainstay the TRK file I attached to my previous post might prove helpful.

[Mainstay]

25 minutes ago, Ironhand said:

@Mainstay the TRK file I attached to my previous post might prove helpful.

Thnx