Metric/Imperial options

[Harlikwin]

Can we get this as part of the module setting instead of using the global ones. I use Imperial for all the western jets and want to use Metric for the Mig29... And its a PITA to switch it globally constantly.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

 

[MAXsenna]

Yes, please. This should be done in the Ka-50 too.

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[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

It has been requested before, and the need has been acknowledged by ED.

Funny thing is, that on my end the MiG-29’s cockpit is a mix of metric and imperial:

HSI says miles but is using kilometres, fuel gauge says NM but is using KM, airspeed indicator is in KPH, true airspeed indicator is in knots, radar altimeter is in feet

This truly shows how poorly thought out the system is, and highlights the need for special options.

Or they simply could have left the system as is was, then it would have worked perfectly, instead of trying to make an ‘80s Soviet aircraft display imperial units…

Edited Saturday at 07:11 AM by Raven (Elysian Angel)

[primus_TR]

4 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

HSI says miles but is using kilometres, fuel gauge says NM but is using KM, airspeed indicator is in KPH, true airspeed indicator is in knots, radar altimeter is in feet

That's driving me nuts. And I think it is also a server side setting. Last night,  my imperial cockpit turned to metric (analogue speed gauge also) by itself on the Contention server. (I was thinking to myself how am I so fast but not climbing fast enough, then figured duh). This module needs a lot of work on a lot of fronts. Radar lockon/drop out, SPO full of false alerts and online dysfunctional IFF are reason enough to shelve this one until fixed. Bummed

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

I was so hyped for this release since I really love Soviet technology, but there were a few things that immediately jumped at me within 1 minute inside the cockpit that gave me a bad mood for the rest of the evening: cockpit units and those horrible visor reflections.
At least both have been acknowledged by ED and will get fixed.

I'll still fly it. Other than the units, the cockpit is HeatBlur-level of quality (really REALLY well done), and I simply love how it flies: Soviet DCS modules always 'clicked' with me

[celestHawk]

Welcome to the club brother

[spikef22]

On 9/19/2025 at 5:36 PM, Harlikwin said:

Can we get this as part of the module setting instead of using the global ones. I use Imperial for all the western jets and want to use Metric for the Mig29... And its a PITA to switch it globally constantly.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

 

Same here. This is almost game breaking for me :3 

[Phantom711]

Am 20.9.2025 um 09:11 schrieb Raven (Elysian Angel):

Or they simply could have left the system as is was, then it would have worked perfectly, instead of trying to make an ‘80s Soviet aircraft display imperial units…

MiG-29s that made their way into the Luftwaffe after the reunification of Germany were in fact converted to imperial gauges and english labels. Not sure if there were other export nations that used imperial right away. In any case, it‘s not an artificial feature of DCS. (Not sure if the HUD was converted as well as it is the case in DCS if you chose imperial.)

[TotenDead]

4 часа назад, Phantom711 сказал:

MiG-29s that made their way into the Luftwaffe after the reunification of Germany were in fact converted to imperial gauges and english labels. Not sure if there were other export nations that used imperial right away. In any case, it‘s not an artificial feature of DCS. (Not sure if the HUD was converted as well as it is the case in DCS if you chose imperial.)

If I understand correctly, the conversion was made when the planes were upgraded with western equipment and we don't have that version of the mig. 

Btw, luftwaffe, but English labels... Strange and weird

[Volator]

4 hours ago, TotenDead said:

Btw, luftwaffe, but English labels... Strange and weird

Why? The German Airforce is a NATO airforce, the fast jet pilots have been training in the USA since the 1960s, it has used US aircraft for a very long time, English is the international language in aviation, so naturally avionics in Geman AF aircraft are labeled in English.

 

 

[Phantom711]

vor 8 Stunden schrieb TotenDead:

we don't have that version of the mig

True, but come on…it basically lacks the TACAN, IFF and radio. Only some of the german MiGs received GPS also (as far as I understand). So it is very close to the version we have in DCS now.

[TotenDead]

4 часа назад, Volator сказал:

Why? The German Airforce is a NATO airforce, the fast jet pilots have been training in the USA since the 1960s, it has used US aircraft for a very long time, English is the international language in aviation, so naturally avionics in Geman AF aircraft are labeled in English.

 

 

Does that mean that all nato countries use English in their cockpits instead of their own languages? That brings me back to weird

[Volator]

32 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

Does that mean that all nato countries use English in their cockpits instead of their own languages? That brings me back to weird

Did Warsaw Pact countries use their own native language in their MiGs, Suchois, Antonovs, Tupolev and Iljiushin? Were there Polish, Romanian, Czech, Hungarian and German labels and Natashas or Nadjas or whatever the East called their Bitchin' Betties? No, of course not. Nothing weird about that.

Of couse every NATO nation uses English in aviation- except for the French, but their history in NATO is special in many ways, so...

And I'm guessing that nowadays Airbuses and Boeings in Russia also have English cockpit labels and avionics. 

[draconus]

I support the wish. The units settings for the aircraft should not have landed into the global options. It should stay in special options for specific aircraft.

I get the wish for english cockpit (although still unrealistic) but changing units to imperial, while it was only done in G version, is imho over the board.

[Tiromir]

On 9/20/2025 at 9:11 AM, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

It has been requested before, and the need has been acknowledged by ED.

Funny thing is, that on my end the MiG-29’s cockpit is a mix of metric and imperial:

HSI says miles but is using kilometres, fuel gauge says NM but is using KM, airspeed indicator is in KPH, true airspeed indicator is in knots, radar altimeter is in feet

This truly shows how poorly thought out the system is, and highlights the need for special options.

Or they simply could have left the system as is was, then it would have worked perfectly, instead of trying to make an ‘80s Soviet aircraft display imperial units…

I believe as of now the avionics and gauges values are set through two different settings:

Avionics, through the very, much too general "units" overall DCS option

and gauges through the cockpit language skins, which we'd need an option for English Metric (this is meant to be a russian cockpit translated to english, not a western cockpit), and possibly Russian Imperial. 

Edited 22 hours ago by Tiromir

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

1 hour ago, Tiromir said:

possibly Russian Imperial

I doubt there's any demand for such an abomination  

[TotenDead]

В 23.09.2025 в 14:18, Volator сказал:

Did Warsaw Pact countries use their own native language in their MiGs, Suchois, Antonovs, Tupolev and Iljiushin? Were there Polish, Romanian, Czech, Hungarian and German labels and Natashas or Nadjas or whatever the East called their Bitchin' Betties? No, of course not. Nothing weird about that.

Of couse every NATO nation uses English in aviation- except for the French, but their history in NATO is special in many ways, so...
 

If the aircraft was imported from the USSR it had labels in russian. If the aircraft was made in one of the allied countries it had cockpit in native language. Here you can see some aircraft from different WP countries, equipment made in the USSR is in russian, local- in local
 

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В 23.09.2025 в 14:18, Volator сказал:

 

Of couse every NATO nation uses English in aviation- except for the French, but their history in NATO is special in many ways, so...

Still weird. If you are german why would you use english in a russian built plane? Or german-built for that matter. 

В 23.09.2025 в 14:18, Volator сказал:

And I'm guessing that nowadays Airbuses and Boeings in Russia also have English cockpit labels and avionics. 

Those aren't military jets. And not built in Russia

11 часов назад, Tiromir сказал:

Russian Imperial. 

Eheh, sounds like american metric

[Volator]

3 hours ago, TotenDead said:

Still weird. If you are german why would you use english in a russian built plane? Or german-built for that matter. 

Because it is a question of standardization. And professionalism, if you will. So again, not weird at all for those who are familiar with professional military or commercial aviation in the west.

 

3 hours ago, TotenDead said:

Those aren't military jets. And not built in Russia

Military or commercial is not the point. The point is that even in Russia the labels were not changed into local language.

[TotenDead]

5 часов назад, Volator сказал:

Because it is a question of standardization. And professionalism, if you will. So again, not weird at all for those who are familiar with professional military or commercial aviation in the west.

Can't see any positives in such standardization. It only harms the non-English speaking pilots

5 часов назад, Volator сказал:

Military or commercial is not the point. The point is that even in Russia the labels were not changed into local language.

Actually, it matters. Labels in military aircraft are changed to russian, see the L-39s

[draconus]

4 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

Can't see any positives in such standardization. It only harms the non-English speaking pilots

Actually, it matters. Labels in military aircraft are changed to russian, see the L-39s

It was not 21st inclusion century, especially in the east where people were forced to learn russian anyway and pilots just used what was given to them. So it did not has to be translated, they still had to get to know the aircraft as it was.

Even in present times anyone that's smart enough to be given access to the military radio is expected to know english, especially those that have a slightest chance to go abroad for NATO training/meeting or host one.

[Volator]

12 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

It only harms the non-English speaking pilots

That's nonsense. If a military or commercial pilot was not able to speak and understand basic aviation English, he wouldn't belong in a cockpit in the first place. Speaking English in aviation is a matter of professionalism.

 

13 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

Labels in military aircraft are changed to russian, see the L-39s

Exactly. The L-39 cockpit was labelled in Russian for all the other Warsaw Pact nations too, not only for Russia, because Russian was the lingua franca for the Warsaw Pact and the only aviation language there.

[TotenDead]

1 минуту назад, draconus сказал:

 

Even in present times anyone that's smart enough to be given access to the military radio is expected to know english, especially those that have a slightest chance to go abroad for NATO training/meeting or host one.

If US sold an aircraft to Germany, Italy or any other sattelite country - I get it, you fly with what you got. The question was why not build your own military aircraft with cockpits in your language. 

There is no doubt that English is as important to nato countries militaries as russian in WP, but what speaking has to do with your own instruments And labels? 

 

Btw, in FC3 german Bitching Ursula speaks German. Does it speak English IRL? 

[TotenDead]

8 минут назад, Volator сказал:

That's nonsense. If a military or commercial pilot was not able to speak and understand basic aviation English, he wouldn't belong in a cockpit in the first place. Speaking English in aviation is a matter of professionalism.

In nato that is? So, can you consider french worse and less professional than average nato pilot because their cockpits are in french? 

 

8 минут назад, Volator сказал:

Exactly. The L-39 cockpit was labelled in Russian for all the other Warsaw Pact nations too, not only for Russia, because Russian was the lingua franca for the Warsaw Pact and the only aviation language there.

Only a few posts ago I posted 3 images. A Lim-5 with lables in polish, a baade 152 with german writings and a L-39 with chech ones... 

Edited 1 hour ago by TotenDead

[draconus]

3 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

A Lim-5 with lables in polish

Obviously it was made in Poland for Poles, so why would they use other language? Are we still on MiG-29 case?