Saitek X52 pro

[xtaffy]

I have just purchased this for DCS Black Shark, finally got it out the box and all installed today. I have downloaded a profile for the SST software which I checked out and loaded. In the game I select the saitek from the list offered, only a few commands seem selected, in game none of the buttons work at all, I know I'm missing something pretty simple here, the profile is showing on the mfd, but not working in game.

 

Also, all profiles I see do not seem to have any pov assigned to cockpit view, does everyone use trackir, any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated

 

Cheers

 

Nigel

Edited January 11, 2010 by xtaffy

[bogusheadbox]

If i have this correct, the biggest issue is that you are using someone else profile and not programmed the SST software for what suits you.

 

For my stick, i only have a few commands programmed as the cockpit is fully clickable.

 

I would strongly recommend that you try your hand at making your own profile. SST is a very powerful tool. Yes it does take some time especially on your first go, but by doing it yourself you set up the stick which is intuitive to yourself.

[astrospud]

Agree with Bogusheadbox (cool handle, BTW :)).

I have started with a comprehensive profile that ended up being cut back to only a handful of SST controlled functions. The rest I have programmed directly into the sim control list.

I have had issues (bluescreen, CTD, etc) with the SST software being used, but your situation may prove completely stable.

 

Mine is different in that I use button 1 (Trigger Fire) to fire both canon and launch weapons. This is done via mode 1 and 2 change. Mode one trigger fires hardpoints (missiles) and mode 2 fires canon. POV hat controls Shkval.

All other usable buttons are programmed ingame.

Edited January 11, 2010 by astrospud
Oops - can't attach profile directly. Will wait for request.

[bogusheadbox]

(cool handle, BTW :)).

 

Thanks mate.

 

Shame to hear about your issues with SST, not happened with mine (and its been a while since i have used it - but wish i could, soon i hope, soon !!)

 

Is yours the pro?. Mine is the standard with siatek pro flight rudders, and works a treat.

 

If i could suggest one thing, email the support guys at saitek. I had a problem with the controller and they sorted it out real quick, very impressed with their service and very knowledgable and helpful.

[astrospud]

I've managed to sort it out the blues and the CTD's by shutting down the process that controls the MFD (I cannot recall, Senator). I miss out on all the cool stuff on MFD, but.....meh. My DCS works now :).

[Tbag]

I have all buttons assigned via the SST software and only the axis commands I have set ingame. I'd also recommend to do the profile yourself with SST. Good luck

[Boulund]

I'd say just map the axes to your X52 Pro ingame and start playing. After a while you'll notice what commands you use often. This combined with the information from the Flight Manual about the real-life cyclic and collective you can create your own profile. I'm sure that if everyone posted and tried each other's profile we'd all be pretty confused and complain about some (if not all) settings.

I configured my X52 Pro as such:

Axis settings were done in Black Shark.

ALL buttons were assigned in my SST profile as the key strokes that perform each function.

 

I really think that ED is a wonderful developer here in that they have given every single in-game function a key bind. This makes for very easy profiling - unlike for example IL-2 where almost no function is bound to any key by default, making profile creation for a game like that almost impossible with out a lot of alt-tabbing and messing around with new binds etc...

[isoul]

I'd say just map the axes to your X52 Pro ingame and start playing. After a while you'll notice what commands you use often. This combined with the information from the Flight Manual about the real-life cyclic and collective you can create your own profile. I'm sure that if everyone posted and tried each other's profile we'd all be pretty confused and complain about some (if not all) settings.

I configured my X52 Pro as such:

Axis settings were done in Black Shark.

ALL buttons were assigned in my SST profile as the key strokes that perform each function.

 

I really think that ED is a wonderful developer here in that they have given every single in-game function a key bind. This makes for very easy profiling - unlike for example IL-2 where almost no function is bound to any key by default, making profile creation for a game like that almost impossible with out a lot of alt-tabbing and messing around with new binds etc...

 

Couldn't agree more !!!

[xtaffy]

OK,

 

I'll have to sit down and sort this out, when I downloaded the profile, there was a cutstomconfig.lua file also, where do I import this to?

 

Cheers

 

Nigel

[skeemo]

I did it like that :

 

I read the manual and looked what functions are on the real Cyclic and Pitch.

So i focused on recreating a near-reality mapping.

After that you can think about additional often-used stuff, as the X52 have much more Buttons and 3 (shiftable!) modes.

[Martillo1]

Also, all profiles I see do not seem to have any pov assigned to cockpit view, does everyone use trackir, any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated

 

Oh Yeah :D

[astrospud]

Yeah, if you are going to use POV mapping, I suggest using POV hat on cyclic. I used to use that, but now, I use TIR :).

Even before I still use clutch button to re centre view (numpad 5).

Remember to disable clutch function in your game controller panel.

[xtaffy]

I have started programming in game, I find it easy!! a little. Is there a list somewhere that states each buttons number, so I can select it directly from the list?

 

Cheers

 

Nigel

[astrospud]

The easiest way I found is to have the game in window mode (or if you have more than one monitor, have game in one monitor...) and have the game controller properties window for your X52 open in another (window/monitor).

That way, you can get feed back directly from the controller properties window as you press joystick buttons, and corelate them to the button numbers in the Game settings. As you press a button, the corresponding game controller button ID should light up. Do not confuse this game controller properties window with the SST window.

You acces the Game controllers properties window from Windows control panel.

[xtaffy]

Thats a good idea, though someone somewhere must know what button is what number, then you could just select the correct number from the drop down list that BS gives you

[skeemo]

Do not use the Game to assign your buttons....

 

You give away the shifting and mode Possibilities of the X52..

Thats like buying a Ferrari and only using the 1st gear...

 

For example Mode 1 i use for Navigation and Ingress, on the main POV i have the Route and Descent Mode mapped to left and right.

 

In Mode 2 - which i use for combat - the left and right of this POV is mapped to Gun on/off and HMS on/off because i need them more often in combat situations than the route mode.

Anyway i can still access the Routeswitch in combat mode because i mapped it to Pinky+POV.

 

 

Just spend a little time and dont give away the possibilities.....

[Outlaw24]

I have started programming in game, I find it easy!! a little. Is there a list somewhere that states each buttons number, so I can select it directly from the list?

 

Cheers

 

Nigel

 

I think this will help you while programming your profile.

Saitek X52 PRO Buttons.pdf

[Ghost17]

WARNING: Noob on board!

 

Just loaded up BS and going through the setup and training sections. Can't seem to find an axis control for toe brakes on my Saitek rudder pedals. Am I just clueless, or is it really not there?

[Sarge55]

Actually, you can program in game and have as many functions as you want per button. Just set a modifier button(s).

 

I set the pinky switch as a modifier and I can program all the buttons I need for all the A/C.

[leenco12]

I have all buttons assigned via the SST software and only the axis commands I have set ingame. I'd also recommend to do the profile yourself with SST. Good luck

I'd say just map the axes to your X52 Pro ingame and start playing. After a while you'll notice what commands you use often. This combined with the information from the Flight Manual about the real-life cyclic and collective you can create your own profile. I'm sure that if everyone posted and tried each other's profile we'd all be pretty confused and complain about some (if not all) settings.

I configured my X52 Pro as such:

Axis settings were done in Black Shark.

ALL buttons were assigned in my SST profile as the key strokes that perform each function.

 

I really think that ED is a wonderful developer here in that they have given every single in-game function a key bind. This makes for very easy profiling - unlike for example IL-2 where almost no function is bound to any key by default, making profile creation for a game like that almost impossible with out a lot of alt-tabbing and messing around with new binds etc...

[DarkStar]

I'm trying to use the scroll wheel on the back on my throttle to adjust target box size in the skhval using the SSD, everything else is programmed in-game, but doing this, my pinkie is not recognized in-game. Any tips? Is it not possible to combine SSD and in-game commands? And I'm sure my commands are not duplicated.

[topdog]

In SST you remove the modes that include the use of the Pinkie for enabling shift-states.

 

Then it acts like any other button again.

 

See the before/after images attached.

[Ghost17]

Dawg,

 

How on earth did you figure that one out? It is nowhere that I can find in documentation. Gonna try it and see what shakes loose.

 

Since you seem to have a handle on the beast, help me understand why I cannot get button 31 (throttle "i" button) to show up and be programmed in Profile manager. X-52 Pro. Win-7 64 Bit.

[Avilator]

Since you seem to have a handle on the beast, help me understand why I cannot get button 31 (throttle "i" button) to show up and be programmed in Profile manager. X-52 Pro. Win-7 64 Bit.

 

Note that I have the non-pro version, but I think this still applies.

That button can't be programmed at all. That is called the "clutch" button and is used for switching profiles without using the profile manager. Push it and the LED on the lower hat on the stick begins blinking. When this happens, you can use that hat to cycle up/down through the profiles. Left clears the profile and right selects the one currently displayed in the list.

[astrospud]

In the Game Controller options under windows vista, the clutch mode can be switched off. I actually use it to reset my TIR view to straight ahead. Note, I have the Pro version: