joey45 Posted January 31, 2010 Posted January 31, 2010 so it should be DFM not SFM then? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
EtherealN Posted January 31, 2010 Posted January 31, 2010 It only became "SFM" when the "AFM" was developed. Everything is "AFM" until someone creates "MAFM" (More Advanced Flight Model), and then someone creates "EMAFM" and... hmm... There should be a way to extend that one. :D 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
GGTharos Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Incorrect. The A and C models both have the same engines and same flight control system. Both SU25T and SU25 have AFM, the A-10A would have different performance from the C because the C has FBW and more powerful engines. It would not be as simple as porting one into the other from what I've read. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
SUBS17 Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Looks like they shelved the plan for new engines but it still has a new FCC pity the new engines would have made the Hog alot faster. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Looks like they shelved the plan for new engines A long, LONG time ago. but it still has a new FCC The flight control system is exactly the same one that was in the A. pity the new engines would have made the Hog alot faster. It wasn't about faster - it was about better climb rates and higher thrust at altitude, which coincidentally might make transit a little faster. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Krippz Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Incorrect. The A and C models both have the same engines and same flight control system. Soooo the FC2.0 A-10A will have the DCS A-10C flight model??? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
GGTharos Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Not a snowball's chance in hell. :D Soooo the FC2.0 A-10A will have the DCS A-10C flight model??? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
element1108 Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 No offense to the A model or anything, but once the C model becomes available that pretty much means the A model will be dead to me. I'm sorry A model, I know you were one of the first, but C has a ton of new features plus a 6DOF cockpit...nothing personal. You understand. Don't worry KA-50 and SU-25/25T I'll always have time for my two Russian loves.
104th_Crunch Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Poor A10a will be tossed aside like a one night stand lol.
sobek Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Poor A10a will be tossed aside like a one night stand lol. Well, compared to the C it is a cheap floozie :D Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
SUBS17 Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Not a snowball's chance in hell. :D Don't worry when the SDK is released someone will do it, just copy and paste.:thumbup: [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
nemises Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 I dunno, if the A model also got DCS'd I could definately see myself flying it... Same thrill as using the 25a, but I guess without the speed / maneuverability benefits .. still...steam guages ftw
EtherealN Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Why would you want the A model if you've got the C model? :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
element1108 Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Why would you want the A model if you've got the C model? :P "old school". My only guess. Hehe
Nate--IRL-- Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Why would you want the A model if you've got the C model? :P Why would anybody want the Su25 when we have the Su-25T? There is something very satisfying flying and fighting in the Su-25. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
TAIPAN_ Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 People still fly the Su-25 for olden day missions though.. but then that did get the same AFM of the Su-25t. Where the A-10A will not have AFM even, compared to very high fidelity A-10C there will be a big difference. When DCS:A10C is released, maybe A10A should not be included as an option in multiplayer missions, as all other ground attack aircraft will be either AFM or DCS, requiring more skill to fly and bomb. Pimax Crystal VR & Simpit User | Ryzen CPU & Nvidia RTX GPU | Some of my mods
EtherealN Posted February 2, 2010 Posted February 2, 2010 When DCS:A10C is released, maybe A10A should not be included as an option in multiplayer missions, as all other ground attack aircraft will be either AFM or DCS, requiring more skill to fly and bomb. So your suggestion is to make a plane unusable in multiplayer in product X because product Y has been released? Sorry, but that's just not very smart. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
TAIPAN_ Posted February 2, 2010 Posted February 2, 2010 So your suggestion is to make a plane unusable in multiplayer in product X because product Y has been released? Sorry, but that's just not very smart. No not unusable. I'm only talking about mission design here. Pimax Crystal VR & Simpit User | Ryzen CPU & Nvidia RTX GPU | Some of my mods
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